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State Officials Shut Down Jewish Chicken-Slaughtering Ritual Operations
CBSLA.com) ^ | September 13, 2013 11:17 PM

Posted on 09/14/2013 7:06:54 AM PDT by BenLurkin

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Two operations in the Pico-Robertson area were ordered Friday by the Calif. Department of Food and Agriculture to shut down a traditional Jewish ritual involving slaughtering chickens.

Bait Aaron, a Sephardic Orthodox outreach group, and Ohel Moshe, a synagogue, were performing kaparot, which is practiced by a small group of Orthodox Jews on the eve of Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement.

Kaparot is an ancient ritual in which a person swings a live chicken overhead three times and recites a prayer. The bird is then slaughtered and given to the poor.

“It’s not meant to be to hurt these animals in any way, not anyone can slaughter these animals,” Ohel Moshe congregant Omid Dayan said. “It has to be a certified person there. The whole purpose is to sacrifice the chicken in the least harmful way as possible.”

Rabbi Jonathan Klein of Faith Action For Animals, an animal rights group, shot video outside a synagogue Thursday that outraged his membership.

“This is a ritual that has no obligation for any Jew to do,” Klein said. “I think Kaparot as a concept is wonderful, but when it involves using chickens, and it causes mass slaughter then we have a real problem, and it’s a problem for the whole community.”

Ohel Moshe congregants believe the ritual is misunderstood.

“They’re not just doing it and throwing it in the garbage can. They’re using this food; they’re giving it to poor people and they actually eat it,” Fred Cohen said.

But Klein’s group captured video of dozens of trash bags being loaded into trucks.

“We have visuals with the bodies of chickens in bags being thrown into a truck,” he added.

State officials said they are willing to work with the two locations cited for not having a proper license for killing the animals.


TOPICS: Worship
KEYWORDS: california; faithaction4animals; israel; jewishchickens; kaparot; losangeles
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To: BenLurkin
“This is a ritual that has no obligation for any Jew to do,” Klein said. “I think Kaparot as a concept is wonderful, but when it involves using chickens, and it causes mass slaughter then we have a real problem, and it’s a problem for the whole community.”

If this is their religious practice, then leave them alone. It's not like we don't kill billions of chickens every single year.

The government has no business telling them how to conduct their religion until they start sacrificing people, the way liberals do babies.

41 posted on 09/16/2013 8:02:52 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: 9YearLurker
The difference would appear to be that when I kill a chicken for non-religious reasons, it's perfectly OK to wring its neck, when Jews kill a chicken for religious reasons, wringing the chicken's neck is verboten.
42 posted on 09/16/2013 8:06:30 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: BenLurkin
ancient ritual in which a person swings a live chicken overhead three times and recites a prayer.

Soooo... Anyone who has killed a chicken grabs them by the feet and whips them around a few times before setting the head on the chopping block - it settles the bird, it is dizzy and disoriented, so it is still on the block for a moment, and the killing blow can be administered accurately...

So what is the terrible difference in this ritual, the prayer?

43 posted on 09/16/2013 8:10:33 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: BenLurkin
We live a little north west of there and were on the way home that weekend. Protesters passed out fliers and this was before this made national news.
One protester was I think a Korean eating a dog sandwich protesting the killing of chickens.

Meanwhile California attempts to allow nurses only to abort babies. So our policy will be national outrage over dead chickens, but far more access to slaughter human babies.
Warped world IMO.

44 posted on 09/16/2013 8:13:42 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 9YearLurker
Did you read all of your link?

>>”It is of utmost importance to treat the chickens humanely” >>>>>> They are waving the chickens over their head symbolic of wringing their necks.

What I told you is the original way to kill a chicken for food on the farm. It is quick and humane. The first swing (not wave) and the chicken's neck is broken and it is dead.
My father would then pull the chickens head off, my mother would cut it off with a knife.

If this offends you then you should stay off the farm and buy your chickens at the meat market.

45 posted on 09/16/2013 8:14:10 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Hey pal, I grew up on a farm and we raised and slaughtered chickens.

Did you read the link? They are not killing the birds as they swing them nine times in total over their heads. The slaughter is done afterwards. The claim is that somehow by holding and swinging the birds by their wings it is less traumatic for them than swinging them by their feet. They are most clearly not swinging them by their necks.

Going down to see the slaughter of animals that are eaten for meat is probably a good thing to do (though gross, yes) in terms of keeping them grounded and appreciative.

Subjecting the birds to all those do si dos is just unnecessary and unkind.


46 posted on 09/16/2013 8:30:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Good grief! Let’s not scare the chickens!


47 posted on 09/16/2013 9:49:54 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: BenLurkin

He’ll really get upset when the Temple is up and running.


48 posted on 09/16/2013 10:15:45 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: SkyDancer

Well, one is taxed, while the other is not.

The non-taxed version must, of course be stopped.


49 posted on 09/16/2013 10:16:52 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: BenLurkin

First they wanted to stop circumcision. Now they want to stop chicken flicking. We are on a slippery slope. The next big libtard campaign is going to be very sharp knife control.

I can see it now:

I have no objection to using knives for legitimate culinary purposes, such as spreading peanut butter on bread or carving turkeys on Thanksgiving. I enjoy watching those sushi chefs do their stuff. But when it comes to ritual mutilation of perfectly good penises, or slaughtering innocent birds, or gangland fights, we have to draw the line somewhere, and we already outlawed guns (we didn’t do that yet? oh, damn. I’m premature).


50 posted on 09/16/2013 2:39:13 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: BenLurkin

Our U.S. Constitution guarantees the rights of human beings—not animals. Any who don’t like the law of our land should go back to the Europe that their families came from so recently.

I’m not Jewish, but...

If you (the reader) want moral self-improvement, don’t eat flesh torn or cut from a living animal, but don’t rob or persecute people by way of the animal rights pretense or any other false accusation, false implication, gossip or implied exaggeration. That kind of robbery precedes punishment for the whole world of nations (all) with exceptions for only a very few people.


51 posted on 09/16/2013 2:45:22 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Jewbacca

Better to be saving the untaxed chickens than kids who are about to be aborted. They think more of the lives of chickens than kids.


52 posted on 09/16/2013 4:01:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Born to Conserve
I’m most concerned that the chicken would defecate while being whirled overhead.

Shouldn't the argument then be to stop the whirling birds before SHTF?

53 posted on 09/16/2013 4:22:04 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: EinNYC

I ears on KFI that the charity that they said they gave the chickens to received nothing and that most of the dead chickens went into the garbage.


54 posted on 09/16/2013 4:29:24 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

That is terrible, to waste the lives of the chickens in that way. I have a bad feeling that happened in my neighborhood as well. Then the whole purpose of the kapporos is completely lost.


55 posted on 09/16/2013 5:05:04 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: 9YearLurker
Ritual sacrifice of animals is practiced in every corner of the world, the reason for the act and benefit for the community are good reasons. They however are allowed to do them so your religious practices can be done unmolested by the state. They do break the chickens neck with the picking them up by the head then they become MEAT in its various forms.
56 posted on 09/17/2013 7:10:04 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: EinNYC

I know. There were some MAJOR discrepancies between what the (weirdo veggie lib complainer gathered correctly) evidence was and what the people putting up the tent said.

While the non Orthodox Jews have to work hard on bringing more Judaism into their lives, some orthodox need to work hard on actually living the Judaism they study all day. This sounds like it was more of a money operation - during the holiest week of the year. Kind of missing the point.

My one son who went to chabad school did have kapparot performed on him. No problem. But me? Give me a good old taschlich anytime.


57 posted on 09/17/2013 12:45:36 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Yeah, tashlich is fun here. The police close down the Van Wyck access ramp from Jewel Avenue and everyone from miles around comes to do tashlich on Willow Lake in Flushing Meadow Park. I enjoy getting a better view of the waterfowl than I can usually get just from the road.


58 posted on 09/17/2013 4:07:46 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

That would be fun. It’s even fun here with all the different stripes of Jews showing up together at the pier. All the different rabbis! From lubavich to reconstructionist ( always female - I believe if any men join the denomination they go beyond circumcision all the way to full castration, lol!). And everything in between.

I had the great pleasure to attend Dennis Prager’s services. Very meaningful. He is a gem.


59 posted on 09/17/2013 11:33:27 PM PDT by Yaelle
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