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Pope Francis rejects false religiosity
cna ^ | September 7, 2013 | Kerri Lenartowick

Posted on 09/07/2013 3:49:35 PM PDT by NYer

Pope Francis greets the faithful at the May 8 General Audience (Credit: CNA / Stephen Driscoll)

Vatican City, Sep 7, 2013 / 10:01 am (CNA/EWTN News).- In his daily homily on Saturday, Pope Francis reflected on the question of authentic Christianity and rejected the practice of focusing more on devotions than on Christ himself.

Jesus is “the center” of faith, said the Pope. “A commandment is valid if it comes from Jesus: I do this because the Lord wants me to do this. But if I am a Christian without Christ, I do this and I don’t know why I have to do it,” he said to the congregation at the Vatican’s Casa Santa Marta on September 7.

Like the Pharisees, he said, there are some people who “make so many commandments the center of their religiosity.” 

Others who have a false sense of religiosity “only seek devotions” or “things that are a little uncommon, a little special, that go back to private revelations,” noted Pope Francis.

“If your devotions bring you to Christ, that works. But if you remain there, something’s wrong,” he explained.

“If Jesus is not at the center, there will be many other things,” so that people become “Christians without Christ.”

Remembering that Jesus is the center of faith “regenerates us, grounds us.”

Pope Francis further explained the mark of a true “Christian with Christ.”

“The rule is simple: only that which brings you to Jesus is valid, and only that is valid that comes from Jesus. Jesus is the center, the Lord, as He Himself says.”

Christians can avoid false religiosity by adoring Jesus as “the Lord, the only Lord.”

“If you aren’t able to adore Jesus, you’re missing something,” warned Pope Francis.

The sign of a true “Christian with Christ” is one who does “that which comes from Jesus” and that which leads to Jesus.

Such adoration bears true fruit in the life of a Christian, encouraged the Pope.

He said that Jesus also gives “the grace of loving Him so much, of following Him, of going along the path that He has shown us.”

A “Christian with Christ” has the courage to proclaim Jesus as Lord.

Pope Francis exhorted Catholics not to focus on false piety, but rather evangelize and “take the Gospel!”


TOPICS: Catholic; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Worship
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To: daniel1212

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201 posted on 09/09/2013 6:03:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga

” I am truly amazed at the mental gymnastics that the “christians” on this thread have demonstrated.”

I’m frightened to think of how they treat our Jewish friends.


202 posted on 09/09/2013 6:09:21 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: metmom
When I see manipulation tactics, at work, I am not playing.

I got SO much love to give.

203 posted on 09/09/2013 6:11:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; Religion Moderator
For that reason, since I perceive that your question was not asked in good faith, it will remain unanswered.

I believe that mind reading is against the rules. This is a simple yes or no question and metmom is attempting to tell me what I am thinking.

204 posted on 09/09/2013 6:13:29 AM PDT by verga (Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)
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To: boatbums
It's pretty dumb to trot out a cartoon every time someone is too lazy to dispute what has been posted.

Except; of course; in THIS case!!!



205 posted on 09/09/2013 6:14:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
I believe that mind reading is against the rules.

Some are more rule following than others...

A real Christian would have no trouble answering.

206 posted on 09/09/2013 6:16:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
...it appears that you failed to put CATHOLIC inside the quotes as well...

I asked a simple yes or now question: Should the Pope as the leader of approximately 12. billion Catholics be afforded the same protection as other World leaders?

So far three of the protestant "christians" have refused to answer, engaging in mental gymnastics to justify their positions. I think it says quite a bit about them. Do you feel he should be afforded the same protection?

207 posted on 09/09/2013 6:18:49 AM PDT by verga (Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; CynicalBear; boatbums; piytar; metmom
But, my friendly Bear, who would correct them? And how could one correct them?...They have their liberty in Christ to interpret Scripture as seems right to them and the Holy Spirit ...

No, they do not have the liberty to interpret scripture as it seems right to them. They have a responsibility to God to honestly appraise the scriptures as they are written and follow the commandments God has given us. We don't fashion the scriptures to suit our desires. We conform to what is written.

If they do not approach the word with fear and trembling to do what is right in God's eyes, then I would suggest they're probably not even Christians in the first place.

Now, can you honestly say that the Church has never taken advantage of the scriptures for their own gain?

208 posted on 09/09/2013 6:54:49 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: verga

She is expressing her own mind (”since I perceive that...”) and therefore not reading yours.


209 posted on 09/09/2013 6:56:34 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: verga
I asked a simple yes or now question: Should the Pope as the leader of approximately 12. billion Catholics be afforded the same protection as other World leaders?

I'll respond with three questions for you which should answer yours.

Should the Pope as the leader of the Catholics be dependent on God for his protection so he would be more like Jesus??? Is he not depending on the same God as the three men in the fiery furnace or with Daniel in the lion's den? Or, is the Roman Catholic god not up to the task?

Romans 8"31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?

210 posted on 09/09/2013 7:13:16 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("So weÂ’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And IÂ’m the idiot?" - Sarah Palin)
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To: goodwithagun
I’m frightened to think of how they treat our Jewish friends

Starting with the Inquisition all the way to Pope Pius in WWII, it hasn't been pretty.

211 posted on 09/09/2013 7:15:12 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Elsie

Do you have a tracking number (666)?


212 posted on 09/09/2013 7:40:40 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: verga
So far three of the protestant "christians" have refused to answer, engaging in mental gymnastics to justify their positions. I think it says quite a bit about them. Do you feel he should be afforded the same protection?

It's a bogus question and has nothing to do with the topic...The real question should be; 'are there any world leaders who trust God to protect them out in public'???

If he has little faith it's up to the pope to have bodyguards...But here's a clue...As Christians, we know that when it is his time, he's gonna go no matter where he's at or who's around him...

Mat_6:30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
Mat_8:26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
Mat_16:8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?

213 posted on 09/09/2013 7:53:01 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Gamecock

Pehaps you should study more about the pope and WWII. Referencing the Inquisition is in fact no different than blacks referencing slavery every time there are modern day problems. Jews and Catholics get along quite well. In fact, my husband’s family is half and half. My Christian children love celebrating Hannukah with their Jewish cousins! I used to manage a local swimming pool and we collaborated often with a local Jewish center in terms of lifeguard, swim instructor, and water exercize instructor certification. All of the blended families were Catholic/Jewish. There were no Protestant blends. This is of course anecdotal, but it brought up very facinating and informative conversations with their patrons. It was an amazing learning experience that has actually led me to teach Holocaust courses at our community college. My experience with the Jewish center certainly was life changing! We’ve managed to get over the Inquisition. It’s a shame some Protestants have yet to move on from the Reformation. Perhaps you could blame Bush as well?


214 posted on 09/09/2013 7:55:44 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: verga; metmom; Elsie; WVKayaker
Should the Pope as the leader of approximately 12. billion Catholics be afforded the same protection as other World leaders?

I have not been following the posts on this threads, but just responding to pings to me, so i am not sure of the context of your ?, but if referring to body guards, i would say, "According to your faith be it unto you." But the apostles, whose place and power he presumes - even if more humbly than others - did not use body guards, and other World leaders do not claim the pope's spiritual elitism

215 posted on 09/09/2013 7:57:35 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: HarleyD
What our FRoman Catholic FRiends don't seem to grasp is there is ALWAYS personal interpretion going on.

We limit ours to Scriture. They claim to have Scripture on the same level as the Magesterium, but they seem to always default to their interpretion of the latter.

Give me Scripture. If is far less convulated than the tradition of men..

216 posted on 09/09/2013 8:09:13 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: goodwithagun; smvoice; CynicalBear; metmom; Elsie
... We’ve managed to get over the Inquisition. It’s a shame some Protestants have yet to move on from the Reformation. ...

Oops, Roman Catholicism is apparently being exposed in the context of that post. This does not seen consistent in someone who makes claims of being Protestant! It even appears a bit deceptive!

I'm shocked, I tell you...


217 posted on 09/09/2013 8:12:57 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("So weÂ’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And IÂ’m the idiot?" - Sarah Palin)
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To: WVKayaker

I was referring to those of all religions who’ve gotten over it. There are many of us Protestants that have. In fact, the only ones I’ve ever encountered who have not I discovered two nights ago. Here. You. Frighteningly the only other group I can think of that can’t get over their issues with other religions is the muslims.

obama/Kerry want to start WWIII.
A Christian girl in Syria was recently dismembered.
Healthcare is a fiasco.
A race war is being drummed up.
The military is being neutered.

Your response: I hate Catholics and I’m going to prove my interpretation of scripture is the only interpretation by posting scripture in pretty colors anonymously on an article chat site!


218 posted on 09/09/2013 8:29:09 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Gamecock
We limit ours to Scripture. They claim to have Scripture on the same level as the Magisterium, but they seem to always default to their interpretation of the latter.

Exactly.

This is from an article I posted by Schaffer earlier today:

Today's problem is that Christians just don't accept the word of God as inerrant and infallible. Even in the pre-Reformation church, Catholics believed in the inerrancy of scripture. The Magisterium just plopped their superstitions on top of it.

Today we see many a Catholic and Protestant arguing about how "errors" exists in scripture.

219 posted on 09/09/2013 8:36:16 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: goodwithagun; smvoice; CynicalBear; metmom; Elsie
Your response: I hate Catholics and I’m going to prove my interpretation of scripture is the only interpretation by posting scripture in pretty colors anonymously on an article chat site!

Well, by golly, by gosh. I haven't posted any Scripture in color, so you must have me confused. Of course, that seems consistent!

As for "hating Catholics", I personally don't. I hate the cult of Roman Catholicism. Big difference. I despise those who claim to represent God, but who twist and distort to make their claims of superiority and longevity.

There is only one church, and OUR leader sits at the right hand of God, not clothed in fancy gowns and laden with golden trinkets, sitting on a throne in Rome! My God supplies all of my needs, and guides me into all truth ... through His Holy Spirit.

..."thou dost protest too much!"


220 posted on 09/09/2013 8:39:00 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("So weÂ’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And IÂ’m the idiot?" - Sarah Palin)
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