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To: vladimir998

“So, there is a set of scales.”


This concession of yours is at the core of the whole monstrous error to begin with, as to even claim that there are scales is to say that salvation is not by grace, but by a measurement of your good vs evil works. And this, despite the testimony of the scriptures, which finds you guilty of the whole law for one simple sin, and finds even the obedience to the law perfectly only as a “duty” for an “unprofitable servant” to fulfill.

“So, Paul was against mortification of the flesh? No, he was not: 1 Corinthians 9:27.”


And what, exactly, does that have to do with anything I wrote, or the means of salvation? I doubt that you are even aware of it yourself, and so you’re just barking at me to annoy me.

“The fact is that Jesus saved the King.”


The fact is that Mary saved the King from the judgment of Jesus. The Demon masquerading as Mary says specifically, “As a reward for this little honor that you paid me in wearing my Rosary, I have obtained a great grace for you from my Son.” Not only is it a “reward,” and not a free gift, she says that it was she who obtained it. It was not Jesus or His blood. He merely agreed to abstain from damning the King based on the merit of at least wearing Rosary beads.

As to the claim that the other Papists were praying for the King, it says only that they prayed the Rosaries due to “his example.” His example being the wearing of the Rosaries, which encouraged other people to recite the Rosaries which are said to literally give Mary a Rose with its completion.

From the Secret of the Rosary:

“The word Rosary means “Crown of Roses,” that is to say that ever time people say the Rosary devoutly they place a crown of one hundred and fifty -—three red roses and sixteen white roses upon the heads of Jesus and Mary. Being heavenly flowers these roses will never fade or lose their exquisite beauty.

Our Lady has shown her thorough approval of the name Rosary; she had revealed to several people that each time they say a Hail Mary they are giving her a beautiful rose and that each complete Rosary makes her a crown of roses.

The well-known Jesuit, Brother Alphonsus Rodriguez, used to say his Rosary with such fervor that he often saw a red rose come out of his mouth at each Our Father and a white rose at each Hail Mary. The red and white roses were equal in beauty and fragrance, the only difference being in their color.

The chronicles of Saint Francis tell of a young friar who had the praiseworthy habit of saying the Crown of Our Lady (the Rosary) every day before dinner. One day for some reason or other he did not manage to say it. The refectory bell had already been rung when he asked the Superior to allow him to say it before coming to the table, and having obtained the permission he withdrew to his cell to pray.

After he had been gone a long time the Superior sent another Friar to fetch him, and he found him in his room bathed in a heavenly light facing Our Lady who had two angels with her. Beautiful roses kept issuing from his mouth at each Hail Mary; the angels took them one by one, placing them on Our Lady’s head, and she smilingly accepted them.

Finally two other friars who had been sent to find out what happened to the first two saw the same lovely scene, and Our Lady did not go away until the whole Rosary had been said.”

Most ordinary people, I’m afraid, can recognize silly superstition when they see it.

“No. He wore it in his belt, not around his neck.”


LOL, okay, big difference.

“Sadly, you don’t know the Bible.”


Notice how you’re incapable of making a single coherent argument from the Bible. Your barking cannot fool me into believing that you know what you’re talking about.


57 posted on 07/26/2013 9:16:30 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

58 posted on 07/26/2013 9:23:17 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The dishonesty of anti-Catholics seems to know no bounds:

You wrote:

“This concession of yours is at the core of the whole monstrous error to begin with, as to even claim that there are scales is to say that salvation is not by grace, but by a measurement of your good vs evil works.”

No. The prayers of others can only be about grace. The intercession of Mary can only be about grace. And, as I already noted, and which you completely ignored, the text clearly says the following:

“all the blessed in heaven rejoice in the communion of the faithful because the Blessed Sacrament is a memorial of the passion and death of Jesus Christ, AND THAT BY MEANS OF IT MEN SHARE IN ITS FRUITS AND WORK OUT THEIR SALVATION.”

Thus, Christ’s death on the cross saves. That means grace. Your whole line of deception has been shown to be a lie yet again.

“Most ordinary people, I’m afraid, can recognize silly superstition when they see it.”

And the Jews and Gentiles mocked Christians for believing in things such as the Incarnation, Resurrection, Jesus’ miracles, etc.

“Notice how you’re incapable of making a single coherent argument from the Bible.”

No, because you avoided the verses I posted in post 21 for instance. Typical.

“Your barking cannot fool me into believing that you know what you’re talking about.”

Apparently you can’t deal with the verses posted to you. You will continue to fail.


81 posted on 07/26/2013 11:45:46 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Again no sources — or are these merely your opinions?


82 posted on 07/26/2013 11:49:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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