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Ky. church wants pastor gone after wife's column
AP ^ | 7/10/2013 | DYLAN LOVAN

Posted on 07/10/2013 3:05:50 AM PDT by markomalley

A newspaper column lampooning Southern Baptists, calling the group "the crazy old paranoid uncle of evangelical Christians," is causing quite a stir in a Kentucky city and put a pastor's job in jeopardy.

The column was written by Angela Thomas, the wife of Bill Thomas, an assistant pastor at the First Baptist Church in Madisonville. Her column was done in response to the Southern Baptist Convention's opposition to a new Boy Scouts of America policy that welcomes gay members.

"Sexuality doesn't come up and isn't relative to typical scouting activities but now, thanks to Southern Baptists, the parents of little innocent scouts everywhere are having to have The Talk," she wrote June 19 in The Madisonville Messenger. She writes a weekly humor column for the community paper, which publishes daily.

In the weeks since, the status of Bill Thomas' job with the church has become unclear. The First Baptist pastor said he had accepted Thomas' resignation, but Thomas' wrote in a letter obtained by the newspaper he had not quit.

Thomas has worked at the church for 10 years and was also its musical director.

Bill and Angela Thomas declined to be interviewed by The Associated Press on Tuesday. But he previously told the newspaper he agreed with what his wife wrote.

The column said Southern Baptists have become "raging Shiite Baptists" after drifting "to the right" for the past four decades.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s part of Rabbinical writings, and where do they get their stuff from?
The Old Testament.
What’s in front of the New Testament?
The Old Testament, except for those books so published that have “an apocrypha” (never read it, but heard of it).

So, by rights, it is part of the Jewish/Christian lexicon.

I reference it, you decide what you wish.


61 posted on 07/10/2013 9:15:29 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: markomalley

“Sexuality doesn’t come up and isn’t relative to typical scouting activities but now

HUH? I guess this women does not have any children and has never worked in the children’s ministry at her church or in anyway paid any attention to young boys. Sex is always relevant to young boys.


62 posted on 07/10/2013 9:16:10 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Um, Gee!
I never thought of THAT!!
Why not ask them, Mrs. Don-o!
It might be fun, to see what you find.


63 posted on 07/10/2013 9:17:12 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: ravenwolf

Um, a question?

Is that from: the New International Version, The Revised Standard Version, Today’s English Version, The Jerusalem Bible, The King James - New King James Bible, The Douay Version Bible, The Amplified Bible, The Geneva Bible, or The Living Bible, or The Jewish New Testament?


64 posted on 07/10/2013 9:26:45 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith; Mrs. Don-o

Available for $10.99 at the Universal Life Church Monastery (Over 20 Million Ministers Ordained Worldwide!)

For $13.99 you can be a Bishop, Archbishop, Cardinal, Pope, or even Goddess. But not a god. That seems a bit discriminatory. Waah.

You can be a Lama. But not a Llama. Bummer.

I think I'd like to be a Grand Master Brain Wizard.

But I'm too cheap to fork over the bucks.

65 posted on 07/10/2013 9:46:27 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: markomalley

they did not learn anything in church


66 posted on 07/10/2013 9:50:24 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Mamzelle

Mamzelle wrote:
“Deacons can’t be divorced in conservative churches, for starters.
—Deacons are not on topic, dear.

I do not have a clue what you mean by board rooms nor do I find it relevant to howchurch leadership works. Baptist churches are run by their membership and are essentially elected.
—You just answered it! First, “you have to be a member”. A lot of churches I have been in touch with, the ‘membership’ votes ‘you’ in, to become a ‘bona fide member’, otherwise, you are just one of the mmany sitting in a pew that ‘don’t count’. Next, these same churches’ ‘membership’ votes for who is to be on ‘the board of elders’, who really run the church, and who can hire and fire a pastor. (Which, by the way, I have always thought that being a pastor, was actually answering the call, and NOT beholding to a corporate board, i.e., the elders, who could pull your license).

These are board room ethics, and are copies of corporations, and also demonstrate that a church has a federal 503c on file, to become stamped as ‘legitimate’ by the federal government’s IRS.

If a pastors wife is stupid enough to hold her own congregation in contempt in public then she must be accountable, unless you suggest she is a minor child or mentally defective. She would be much happier among episcopalians with their homosexual priestesses.

A pastor’s wife, is no different than good ol’ Michelle Obama, and no one has to date tried to keep her silent, have they? “The wife comes as part of the package.”, or so they say.


67 posted on 07/10/2013 9:51:35 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

she has free speech and the church is free to get a new pastor too


68 posted on 07/10/2013 9:52:44 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: dgkb

her hubby agrees with her garbage


69 posted on 07/10/2013 9:55:40 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: ArrogantBustard
I do want to be a Cardinal. I'm told I'm just stunning in red.`

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I think that's a good thing.

70 posted on 07/10/2013 10:00:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just to Be is a Blessing; just to Live is Holy." - Rabbi Abraham Heschel)
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To: Terry L Smith

Terry I believe you’re on the wrong forum as your constitutional knowledge is lacking. She has free speech to bash her church, and the church has the free speech to fire her husband for agreeing with her mockery of the faith. It is strange to see a Freeper celebrate a far left zealot.


71 posted on 07/10/2013 10:04:17 AM PDT by HawkHogan
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Stunning" is such an interesting term for a woman. Helen of Troy, no doubt, was "stunning". Paris apparently thought so. OTOH, Medusa was also "stunning" ... as Perseus and his men found out. Without doubt, you're stunning in the former sense.


72 posted on 07/10/2013 10:17:06 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Terry L Smith

Dear? And a deacon us just another name for pastor. Women were deacons in that time, too. Dear. And their husband’s behavior would have reflected on them. Dear. Leaders are expected to be particularly circumspect and if that doesn’t suit, then font expect to continue in leadership. Dear.


73 posted on 07/10/2013 11:49:15 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: ArrogantBustard
Maybe somepin' like this:


74 posted on 07/10/2013 12:01:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (My kin are given to such phrases as, 'Let's face it.' - Flannery O'Connor)
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To: Terry L Smith

Um, a question?


Take your pick.


75 posted on 07/10/2013 12:06:08 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: chesley

“Freedom of speech” is about government interference. ONLY!
Not the responses of private individuals to offensive speech so long as it doesn’t interfere with the lives and property of others.


Exactly.


76 posted on 07/10/2013 12:14:10 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

Why don’t more people get that? I understand the ones on the left, but what is the motivation of those on the right?


77 posted on 07/10/2013 12:40:46 PM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Cute.


78 posted on 07/10/2013 12:43:50 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Terry L Smith
The Baptist church, any of them, is not a hierarchy. The local churches are independent of the Southern Baptist Convention, or any convention, joining them voluntarily, and able to leave at any time they choose. the convention has NO authority over them.

Each church elects deacons, votes on budgets, votes to accept new members, and if the situation came up (I've never seen it myself)could vote to disfellowship a person. This is as close to ‘excommunication’ as Baptists get.

Said person could walk across the street to another Baptist church and join. Or he could gather some like minded persons and start his own church and affiliate it with the SBC, or another convention, or even more than one, or stay independent of any convention.

Freedom through Christ is what makes us great.

79 posted on 07/10/2013 12:46:50 PM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: Terry L Smith
pastor’s wife, is no different than good ol’ Michelle Obama, and no one has to date tried to keep her silent, have they? “The wife comes as part of the package.”, or so they say.

A number of us voted to fire her husband. Unfortunately, not enough.

But I have a question for you. Who should be in charge of the church? the pastor? How did he acquire his position? the hiring authority is also the firing authority.

Nobody pulled his license; nobody said he could never work again. Suppose that you were on a website, this one perhaps, and the powers that be decided to crack down on nonsense. Would they be wrong to kick you off? or me, or anyone else who was offending the basic thrust of this site?

Just curious as to what your answer is?

80 posted on 07/10/2013 1:01:34 PM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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