Oh, you go, girl.
Posted on 07/10/2013 3:05:50 AM PDT by markomalley
A newspaper column lampooning Southern Baptists, calling the group "the crazy old paranoid uncle of evangelical Christians," is causing quite a stir in a Kentucky city and put a pastor's job in jeopardy.
The column was written by Angela Thomas, the wife of Bill Thomas, an assistant pastor at the First Baptist Church in Madisonville. Her column was done in response to the Southern Baptist Convention's opposition to a new Boy Scouts of America policy that welcomes gay members.
"Sexuality doesn't come up and isn't relative to typical scouting activities but now, thanks to Southern Baptists, the parents of little innocent scouts everywhere are having to have The Talk," she wrote June 19 in The Madisonville Messenger. She writes a weekly humor column for the community paper, which publishes daily.
In the weeks since, the status of Bill Thomas' job with the church has become unclear. The First Baptist pastor said he had accepted Thomas' resignation, but Thomas' wrote in a letter obtained by the newspaper he had not quit.
Thomas has worked at the church for 10 years and was also its musical director.
Bill and Angela Thomas declined to be interviewed by The Associated Press on Tuesday. But he previously told the newspaper he agreed with what his wife wrote.
The column said Southern Baptists have become "raging Shiite Baptists" after drifting "to the right" for the past four decades.
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Dear Mrs. Don-o,
Very well written.
“If ya’s don’ t’ink d’at da’ folks iz gonna read d’em woids, d’en don’ go and put d’em in dah paper!”
Personally, I think she has had a long-time ax to grind, and somebody handed her that proverbial ‘straw’.
Why not also tell them that if the scout master makes them angry, just yell “He touched me! He touched me!” and he’ll do anythinbg you want.
chesley wrote:
“Nonsense! the right to free speech means the government shall not interfere with it. It doesn’t mean private individuals can’t bring social pressure on the speaker. That would interfere with their free speech.”
That last sentence - about interfering with free speech. Isn’t that what this is all about? Unless you agree with women having bridles in their mouths, and short whips stuck-you-know-where, and prancing around like pretty ponies with long tails.
Just because “she is the pastor’s wife”, does NOT shut off her right to open her mouth and say what she thinks, parishoners be damned.
I did notice, when in my days of insanity as a Pentecostal, there was a sort of Pentecostal ‘PC’ speech, too.
Arrogant Bastard wrote:
“ I’m mildly curious about two things:
1) Do you claim to be a Christian?
2) Do you know the origin of that “Pentecostal addage (sic)”?”
1. I’m an ordained U.L.C. minister.
2. I was a member of Smithtown Gospel Tabernacle, N.Y., for 8 years.
Does that do it for ya?
I have no idea what a U.L.C minister is.
Prior membership in what I presume to be some pentecostal congregation does not imply knowledge of the origin of some phrase purported to be a Pentecostal adage.
Why not just answer the questions directly?
The answer to (1) is either "Yes" or "No".
Legitimate answers to (2) could be more complex, but simply claiming prior membership in some organization is NOT an answer.
Wow!!! That was really difficult to obtain, wasn't it? Years of study? Careful examination of your learning by acknowledged experts? I'm not sure I'm up to it ...
dgkb wrote:
“I do not give her credit. Anybody can open their mouth and garbage comes out. There should be a little common sense. A woman should support her husband’s beliefs when it is their paycheck, and in his position for goodness sake! The southern Baptist’s support the Word of God and what it says - and I say.....thank goodness.”
So, you want her silent, only to respond with ‘yes dear’, and “kiss his tukus”, for the entirety of their marriage?
How’s that old song go?
Oh yes ... “Be pretty, Be quiet, and Be ready.”
This is 2013. The day of the submissive wife, outside of those ‘special relationships’ where that is accepted, ahem, has been gone for a long time.
If I remember right, there is an old story that God put Lilith and Adam together first. how did that work out?
Angela and her husband are not representing the beliefs of this church.
http://www.fbcmadisonville.com/index.php/first-believes/doctrine-statement
Mamzelle wrote:
(snip)
“He serves at the pleasure if the congregation and they are offended and undermined. “
Please find me in either Timothy’s, where the pastor is at the flock’s whim?
Thank you for proving ‘board room ethics’, again.
Only government is required to respect freedom of speech. Churches, businesses, and other public and private institutions do not have to put up with speech that is derogatory or destructive to their objectives. Her attitude reflects back toward the church, and the church is free to ask her and her husband to leave.
The woman has the right to say whatever she wants. But there are always consequences for our actions. The church disagrees with her at a fundamental level. Should she convert to Islam, would that be enough in your mind for the church to separate itself from this couple?
No one owes anyone anything. The church does not owe her husband a position. And why should it give him one from which to spout views at variance with its own?
“Freedom of speech” is about government interference. ONLY!
Not the responses of private individuals to offensive speech so long as it doesn't interfere with the lives and property of others.
And that comment about women having bridles in their mouths and short whips, etc. What does that have to do with anything? Totally gratuitous and reveals something about your mind.
The thing is, a married couple is a unit, and the husband is certain positions of responsibility, not just in the church, but in the corporate world, will be judged on his wife's behavior. Not necessarily as to his character, but as to his suitability to fill that position. There's nothing wrong with that. Does a corporate officer from GM advise his friends to buy a Ford?
Deacons can’t be divorced in conservative churches, for starters. I do not have a clue what you mean by board rooms nor do I find it relevant to howchurch leadership works. Baptist churches are run by their membership and are essentially elected. If a pastors wife is stupid enough to hold her own congregation in contempt in public then she must be accountable, unless you suggest she is a minor child or mentally defective. She would be much happier among episcopalians with their homosexual priestesses.
In SC, if you don’t like one Baptist church, just walk across the road. They’ll likely be another one there.
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I wonder--- for $25 do I get to be a bishop?
Turning out to be a fun thread after all!
I’m not sure how far down this rabbit-trail I want to go ...
She’s kinda cute ...
Except for the bat-wings, and the claws ...
And da crazy-eyezzz.
She gots da crazy-eyezzz.
The Pentecostal addage, “Wives, submit to your husbands.”
I believe your disagreement is with the Bible, not the Pentecostals.
Ephesians 5
22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
25
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
These are pretty plain words, not much chance of twisting them around as some scriptures are twisted around.
1 Cor 7
4
The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
It works both ways but because people do not read enough to understand what it is talking about they let this stupid little pride thing get the best of them, or rather that is the excuse people use when they want to go to greener pasture.
Reason #1
Because many of the pentecostal women were so beautiful and appealing that i could not keep my mind on the sermon.
Reason #2
Because there were too many Women ( including preachers wives ) who were also preaching and making a shambles out of the word of God.
Don,t get me wrong as i loved those people but i needed the word of God in the worst way, not romance nor a woman,s fairy tale of the Gospel.
Pepeat, fire THEIR sorry butts. These ministerial jobs are hard to come by. They can be replaced in a flash.
Jesus said i preach freely but beware of the hirelings.
As soon as I saw ULC (plus NY in the same sentence), it told me all I needed to know... and this indivivdual is on the wrong website.. DUmmy is a better place.
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