Women-priest fakers allow Protestants [UCC] to define who Catholics are. There must be consequences.

What Does The Prayer Really Say ^ | 4/28/2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

[verga]

Someone needs to look up the words "intercession" and "mediation" in the dictionary.

PS it is not the Catholic.

[narses]

editor-surveyor wrote: It certainly has not been hidden by Yehova, but by Mystery Babylon, the Mystery of Iniquity, that operates every church and seminary on Earth. The Harlot and her daughters. Nota Bene, see editor-surveyor's tag line, it speaks volumes. Say editor-surveyor does this mean you do not attend any Church?

[editor-surveyor]

I attend gatherings of Yehova’s elect, in such places and times as they maym occur.

I do not respect the teachings of men, because Yeshua rejected them.

[Salvation]

Catholics will take the words of Jesus over yours.

"Do this in remembrance of me."

Sorry, we'll stick with Jesus' words! Have you never heard of a memorial before? (In memory of Christ)

[Salvation]

No candles are burned to statues. They are burned usually for as a prayer for someone who has died or someone who needs prayers. Much like a prayer ping here when we pray for someone who needs help — which, btw, you have also done.

[Salvation]

**Easier until it drags them down into hell cause their pride wouldn't let them admit that they've been wrong all those years.**

Why do you say Catholics will be dragged down to hell?

Christ said, "Unless you eat my body and drink my blood, you will not enter the Kingdom of God."

He also said I am the truth -- not the custom! LOL!

[Cronos]

narses: ">> “Has this been hidden from the People of God for 2,000 years and just a tiny select few privy?” <<

editor: It certainly has not been hidden by Yehova

hmmm... you mean the Gap Theory? About CB's belief that There is a gap between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2 of billions of years?

[Cronos]

Maybe we should just define “true Protestant” as anyone who calls themselves Christian yet rejects the Catholic Church’s teachings. After all, the people you mentioned (and more) all at least have in common the fact that they hate Catholicism.

It would seem that way. But then that would include CB's gap theory, metmom's anti-Calvinism, the Jehovah's Witnesses and even Mormons

[Cronos]

My apologies -- my previous post was directed at mm

to your point which is specifically related to this thread I believe that God uses both men and women to further His kingdom.Mary Magdeline imho where she was told by Christ to tell the disciples that “He was Risen”was the first use of preaching the gospel.Esther was used by God to save the entire jewish race.Many times God appointed women as Judges and Prophetesses to rule over Isreal.In Jesus list of ancestors are several women mentioned,one of whom was a prostitute that saved the Isreali spies.

God does use both men and women

Women's role is as important as men's -- our argument is that it is different. It is not lesser, but it IS different.

A woman preacher, yes, a woman administrator yes, a woman councillor, scholar, doctor of the church yes. But a priestess, no. Not because of some "defect" in woman, rather for the same reason there are no male mothers, it is a different role

[Cronos]

Scripture clearly teaches that salvation is by grace alone through faith alone

Actually scripture teaches that salvation is by grace alone.

Church teaching is that salvation is NOT faith+works, and this is in line with scripture which nowhere uses the expressions "justification by faith alone" or "salvation by faith alone."

on the contrary, if one reads scripture, what does Jesus say saves us?

• Matt. 24:13

  13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

• Matt 25:31-46 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
  35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
  36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Jesus says that if you endure to the end you get salvation, that if you helped your fellow man you inherit the kingdom of God (you get salvation) --> note these are HIS own words

• 1 Pet. 3:20-21: " It (Baptism )saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"

• Note -- also in Acts 16:31 we are told to believe and you will be saved -- so Faith is definitely one of the things needed, yet as you see above, it is not ONLY faith. Remember -- James says "even the demons believe - and shudder" -- it is not faith ALONE that saves

  Jesus said it is not faith ALONE. We are saved by God's GRACE. Full-stop.

  James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. -- it's never faith ALONE. Note that

  1. He who believes and is baptized will be saved. (Mk 16:16)
  2. [U]nless you repent you will all likewise perish. (Lk 13:3)<,li> [H]e who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. (Jn 6:54)

  no one is denying that one MUST have faith to be saved by the freely given grace of salvation, however, it is not faith ALONE. As shown above, Jesus Himself said that

  He who believes and is baptized will be saved. (Mk 16:16)
  [U]nless you repent you will all likewise perish. (Lk 13:3
  [H]e who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. (Jn 6:54)

  So, do listen to the words of Jesus who said it is faith+ repentance+baptism+the Eucharist+endurance, not any of these in isolation. Of course, these don't "save us" per se, since it is Christ's sacrifice on the Cross that grants us our salvation that we can accept or reject

  The problem happens when one takes one section of the word in isolation.

[Cronos]

Thank you for admitting that mistake, gracious of you

[Cronos]

CB: I follow scripture, not “true Protestants” or other carnally constructed “religion”.

Interesting, so you disagree with Protestants as well and say you are not Protestant either?

but you hold to Gap theory

[Cronos]

CB: Check out Baal and the sun god.

Cronos: Btw, Baal wasn't the sun god of the ancient Semitic peoples.

CB: Once again trying to put words into what I said. The Semitic god was El who was supposedly the father of Baal the god of the Canaanites and Phoenicians. Trying to deflect is rather lame.

tsk, tsk, tsk -- your very words condemn you. "check out Baal and the sun god"

i'm sorry about your views against Christianity but Christ is not a version of Baal or the sun god whichever one you are inferring

[Cronos]

CynicalBear about Christianity: Incorporating the worship of Tamuz into the worship of Christ

Wow. So it comes out...

[metmom]

Sorry, we'll stick with Jesus' words! Have you never heard of a memorial before? (In memory of Christ)

HELLO!!!

THAT'S what we've been saying. That' it's just a memorial service.

You do realize that a memorial service is not the exact event, don't you? It's just done to REMEMBER something.

Just like the Passover Feast the Jews celebrated was a remembrance of the actual event. God did not kill the firstborn of the world every year.

[.45 Long Colt]

I’m Freeping on my iPad while stuck In traffic so I cannot respond to your specifics. All I have time to say is this: you are thoroughly deceived. Rely on your baptism and your blasphemous Eucharist at your peril. I’ll trust Christ.

[ELS]

traditional ham on Easter

Huh? It is traditionally lamb for Easter. Jesus is the Lamb of God. Get it?

[editor-surveyor]

No I do not mean “Gap theory.”

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Gap Theory is in every way irrelevent to the words of Yeshua. The fact is that it would destroy Yehova’s perfect nested pattern of sevens (sabbaths), so is not in my opinion worthy of discussion.

[Cronos]

editor: Gap Theory is in every way irrelevent to the words of Yeshua. The fact is that it would destroy Yehova’s perfect nested pattern of sevens (sabbaths), so is not in my opinion worthy of discussion.

Thank you for that corrective knowledge