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More Objective Reality (Cardinal Bergoglio celebrating a "youth Mass" complete with puppets)
Barnhardt.biz ^ | 03/17/2013 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 03/18/2013 6:45:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

More Objective Reality
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - March 17, AD 2013 1:02 PM MST

From 2011, Pope Francis, then Cardinal Bergoglio, celebrating a "youth Mass" complete with puppets. This is just about as bad as it gets, folks.

The consecrations are at the 5:30 and 6:15 marks. No genuflection. In fact not a single person there on the altar, such as it is, genuflects, much less kneels, except the young server in the front with the incense, who is on his knees. All of the rest of the concelebrating priests remain standing throughout, and of course, the two kid "cantors" just stand there between their performance opportunities.

I GUESS THEY MUST ALL BE CRIPPLED OLD MEN, TOO, HUH?

This is the state of the Church in Buenos Aires, and all of Argentina, as I have been told repeatedly by Argentinians who have emailed me, both laity and clergy. Banality, insipidity, sacrilege. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, Calvary made present, is treated as a bad joke.

And now, a quote from Cardinal Hummes of Brazil, who is one of Pope Francis' closest friends and colleagues, as evidenced by the fact that Hummes was standing beside Pope Francis on the balcony on Wednesday night:

Q: In what sense is reform necessary?

Cardinal Hummes: Not just of the Curia, but many other things: our way of celebrating ("fazer", lit. "making", "doing") Mass, of doing evangelization, this new evangelization needs new methods. The pope spoke in the meeting with the cardinals of new methods, we need to find new methods.

Citation here.

After what you have read here about the incredibly deep and profound theology of the Mass and the Eucharist over the last several months, you cannot be an honest person and truly believe that there is nothing wrong here, and that everything is fine.

Further, do you honestly expect a man who would participate in such a breathtakingly undignified liturgy to provide any sort of solidity when it comes to economic systems and a realistic path forward out of economic and geo-political collapse?

We are about to have a world war, and the new Pope thinks that the key to evangelizing the world is more liturgical puppets and "fun" Masses, apparently. Yeah. That's what all people are searching for. And besides, that worked so well in the 1970s, we might as well double-down and do it again.

Being an adult and manfully facing objective reality is not pharisaical. Going through life denying that which is obvious and right in front of you; swearing that everything is great and fine when in fact everything is collapsing around you is not good or virtuous. It is ridiculous, childish and sometimes just plain evil. We see this in politics, as people refuse to acknowledge that "their guy" or "their team" not only isn't going to save the day, but that "their guys" are actually the enemy. We see it in finance as people refuse to accept the stark objective reality of simple arithmetic. We see it in current events as more and more thefts, confiscations, incursions and perversions are carried out in plain sight, but the masses refuse to acknowledge that any of these things are indicative of disorder, and that the people talking and warning about them, even when proved right again and again, are either "mean" or "crazy".

With regards to the Church, the gates of hell will never prevail against it, BUT individuals can be lost and are lost to hell. How many souls lost are YOU willing to tolerate for the sake of being "nice"? If you want to talk about charity, here is where you start. Stop worrying about being nice and universally loved, liked or even respected and start telling people the truth, no matter how ugly it may be.

I don't give a lick what any of you people think of me, and I will never ask anyone for any money, ever. There are no advertisements here. There is no cash flow. There is no career ambition. There is no cult of personality. And that is why I am willing to tell you the unvarnished truth. If you want to be lied to, I can direct you exactly where you can go for that.

God is angry. Pray hard. Be sorry for not just your own sins, but for the sins of the whole world. Do penance. Make reparation.

Kyrie eleison. Christe eleison. Kyrie eleison.

Viva il Papa.

**Many readers are emailing asking for suggestions IF Cardinal Hummes' quote proves true and the Traditional Mass, namely the Tridentine Rite, is in any way suppressed or oppressed. I do have a suggestion that you may want to explore. There are several "Eastern Catholic Rites" that are in full, complete communion with Rome and are 100% Catholic that it would be all but impossible for a Pope to mess with - and the chant is GORGEOUS. Look for Byzantine Rite, or Ukrainian Catholic parishes. There are other Eastern Catholic Rites, but Byzantine/Ukrainian are the most common Eastern Catholic rites in North America. Just be certain that you are looking at a Catholic, and NOT Russian Orthodox or Greek Orthodox parish, as the Orthodox are NOT in communion with Rome, and thus lack validity, and also teach heresy, such as contraception, divorce and remarriage, etc., not to mention having messed-up Trinitarian theology, which as we have discussed, if not spot-on leads to massive problems.



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What difference does it make?
1 posted on 03/18/2013 6:45:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What is wrong with this person? (the writer of the article) Is she the Pope’s pope?


2 posted on 03/18/2013 6:52:07 PM PDT by madison10 (King Putt and Queen Vacay...spending your $$ because they can.)
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To: madison10
I guess she thinks that the Mass should be about worshiping God.
3 posted on 03/18/2013 6:53:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
From 2011, Pope Francis, then Cardinal Bergoglio, celebrating a "youth Mass" complete with puppets. This is just about as bad as it gets, folks.


4 posted on 03/18/2013 6:54:15 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; madison10
Cool Mass, if you're into that sort of thing.
5 posted on 03/18/2013 7:14:45 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I imagine Pope Francis and Cardinal Hummes have decent relations, but the article’s assertion they are bosom buddies is silly. Hummes was regarded as the leading liberal candidate, and Bergoglio (in 2005) the leading conservative. Hummes is affiliated with Liberation Theology; Francis with Liberation And Communion. Hummes’ presence on the balcony was on the balcony as president emeritus for the congregation of clergy. Guilt by association won’t wash.


6 posted on 03/18/2013 7:16:40 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Your tag line seems kind of out of place since you keep posting this bullies opinions. Stand against the bullies, not with them. Dangerous ground I tell you, dangerous ground.


7 posted on 03/18/2013 7:22:02 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t have time to watch the whole video. Are there puppets any closer to the altar than decorations in the crowd, or is the author simply trying to let people jump to false presumptions?


8 posted on 03/18/2013 7:22:07 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid
So when a nobody with no power criticizes a somebody with immense power, the nobody is a bully?

You live in quite the bizzarro world.

9 posted on 03/18/2013 7:25:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

To my knowledge, the Pope has a bum knee, with pins in it. His bow in place of a genuflection is perfectly licit.


10 posted on 03/18/2013 7:41:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Please update yourself on criticizing Bishops, Cardinals and Popes.


11 posted on 03/18/2013 7:42:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Obviously she has the power of her blog and probably has a large following. She is causing scandal on herself and on the Church. When someone thinks they know better then God, that is a sin against the Holy Spirit. Disobedience to the Church and Church teaching is not being Catholic, she is showing herself no better then Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden. Cafeteria Catholic’s are all the same, maybe they don’t pick the same things to go against the Church about, but the result is the same, disobedience and scandal.


12 posted on 03/18/2013 7:43:01 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: dangus

Advance the video to 7:50 for the puppets and/or to 8:08 for what is said to be the “Smiling Christ On The Cross.”


13 posted on 03/18/2013 7:45:01 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I watched the video. It is a children’s mass - it is a huge outdoor stadium. I think the writer is out in left field here. No disrespect to the Eucharist in this video.


14 posted on 03/18/2013 7:49:31 PM PDT by bagadonutz (knuckledragger)
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To: mlizzy
There's two different videos. It's 7:50 and 8:08 at this link. Sorry for any confusion.
15 posted on 03/18/2013 8:26:36 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Arthur McGowan
To my knowledge, the Pope has a bum knee, with pins in it. His bow in place of a genuflection is perfectly licit.

This is from a previous posts of Ann's regarding the new pope's failure to genuflect:

UPDATE:

Thanks to the reader who suggested this. This is Pope Benedict's last public Mass on Ash Wednesday, February 13, 2013. Note that Pope Benedict, frail to the point of citing his frailty as a reason for his abdication, fully genuflects to the knee, as every priest MUST do as a non-negotiable rubric of celebrating the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

And for anyone arguing that it is simply too difficult for anyone over the age of twenty-four to genuflect, may I remind you that the rubrics call for both hands to be flat on the altar, which lends a great deal of physical support to the priest, and for there to be servers on each side who can assist with the genuflections by holding the elbows of the priest. That is one of the reasons the servers are there - to physically assist the priest if needed.

The genuflection after the consecration of the Host is at 1:19:33. The genuflection after the consecration of the Chalice is at 1:20:21.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rviYNeMNJLI&feature=player_embedded
16 posted on 03/18/2013 8:48:59 PM PDT by fr_freak
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Ann is a hysteric. And ignorant. And arrogant.

Genuflection is not a “non-negotiable.” (The only meaning that could carry is that genuflecting is necessary for validity.) That is preposterous. A priest may, if necessary, celebrate Mass seated. There is no physical act during the Mass that is “non-negotiable” other than the Epicletic Gesture.


17 posted on 03/18/2013 9:32:22 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Well, I'm not a Catholic scholar, so I'm not qualified to have an opinion regarding the technical importance of genuflecting one way or another. I do, however, think that the Pope is the Catholic of Catholics, and is therefore our earthly role model. So, while your average parishioner may take shortcuts here and there for convenience or out of apathy, the Pope should do everything in his power to show the most reverence possible, which, to my mind, means that if there is a way he can genuflect, he should, whether the Mass is invalid without it or not, just to demonstrate the highest standard of reverence to the rest of the flock.

However, as I admit ignorance of the technical aspects of this stuff, you might be better off having this discussion with Ann, herself. She appears to be quite receptive to communications from readers:

Ann@Barnhardt.biz
18 posted on 03/18/2013 9:48:25 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: mlizzy

This link does not open and the comments that follow appear to be in Spanish.


19 posted on 03/18/2013 9:54:46 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: bagadonutz

Do we have a link to this video?
Some of the “low-intellect” non-Catholic comments made here display a moronic bent.


20 posted on 03/18/2013 9:56:34 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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