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Buchanan: Pope Francis — Against the West?
Human Events ^ | March 15, 2013 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 03/18/2013 2:37:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

“The Faith is Europe. And Europe is the Faith,” wrote Hilaire Belloc after that bloodbath we call World War I. “Either Europe will return to the Faith or she will perish.”

By 1938, Belloc concluded Christian Europe was done:

“The bad work begun at the Reformation is bearing its final fruit in the dissolution of our ancient doctrines — the very structure of society is dissolving.” He was right. Europe is the dying continent.

And looking back at the history of the Old Continent, we see the truth of G.K. Chesterton’s insight: When men cease to believe in God, they do not then believe in nothing, they will believe in anything.

Consider the idols to which European Man has burnt incense since losing his faith: Darwinism, Marxism, Bolshevism, fascism, Nazism, now globalism — the idea of a secular paradise where mankind’s needs are met by the state and people spend their lives consuming cultural and material goods until the time comes for the painless exit.

Wednesday, even as Europe has said goodbye to Rome, Rome began to say goodbye to Europe, where the fastest growing faith is manifest in the mosques rising from Moscow to Madrid.

The College of Cardinals, for the first time ever, chose a pope from the New World: Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina.

To be exact, Pope Francis is not of the indigenous peoples of the New World. His father was an immigrant from Italy who came to Argentina before he was born. Yet, though by blood an Italian, Pope Francis, heart and soul, does not belong to Europe.....

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholicism; catholics; europe; popefrancis
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1 posted on 03/18/2013 2:37:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Money quote:

Wednesday, even as Europe has said goodbye to Rome, Rome began to say goodbye to Europe, where the fastest growing faith is manifest in the mosques rising from Moscow to Madrid.

2 posted on 03/18/2013 2:48:01 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The main stream media’s collective question was: “You mean the Pope is Catholic?”


3 posted on 03/18/2013 2:55:16 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For anyone confused by the title, in short Buchanan is saying that the Pope is good because he is against the evil Godless West.


4 posted on 03/18/2013 3:13:15 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
By 1938, Belloc concluded Christian Europe was done: “The bad work begun at the Reformation is bearing its final fruit in the dissolution of our ancient doctrines — the very structure of society is dissolving.” He was right. Europe is the dying continent.

You know its bad when Pat Buchanan publishes that for his quote. I never thought I'd see the day he'd agree with Belloc on that.
5 posted on 03/18/2013 4:53:30 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: xsmommy

ping.


6 posted on 03/18/2013 4:55:46 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Viva il papa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pat is very wise. Europe is dead. And we’re not far behind.


7 posted on 03/18/2013 4:57:55 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Pitchfork Pat ping, thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


8 posted on 03/18/2013 7:57:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why not follow our separated brethren of the Protestant faiths, and choose what doctrines we wish to believe and what commandments we wish to obey?

Buchanan insults me. My evangelical protestant faith is closer to what Christ taught then the Catholic faith is. Truth be told, the Catholic church has been going down the road of heresy for over 1000 years!

There is a reason the Reformation happened, and why the vast majority of Catholics countries have been followers of Socialism for so many years.
9 posted on 03/18/2013 8:02:57 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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10 posted on 03/18/2013 8:14:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: OneVike

Buchanan was just quoting Hillaire Belloc, who is worth reading. Did we begin to believe at the Reformation, or did we lose faith in the miraculous? The Reformation not only destroyed the unity of faith and ecclesiastical organization of the Christian peoples of Europe, as Belloc argues, but also sowed the seeds of modernism, which has proceeded down a slippery slope of rationalization for 500 years (including the socialism you mention), and has given rise to the endless division into sects and never-ending disputes among churches, and could not but lead to the complete unbelief which we see today as the religious corrosion continues. No, the magic of the medieval Church is not what it was, but only because our view of it is colored by the modern-Protestant world in which we now live, one in which the sacred and sacramental character of everyday life, attended by an expectation of the miraculous around every corner, is no longer self-evident, no longer part of our mentality. The world has become drab, colorless, faithless.


11 posted on 03/18/2013 8:31:58 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: OneVike

Don’t ignore the consequence of Lutheranism: War among Christians, and the most horrific kind of war, driven by fanatical hatred. Both sides were complicit in the most brutal crimes, neighbor turning against neighbor as Christians had once against the Saracens, neither giving quarter because each thought God was on his side.


13 posted on 03/18/2013 9:36:29 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: moder_ator; Jim Robinson

Why the hell would you delete a comment on something that is based on an article from Human Events?

This was not an article about defending the faith. It was a political/religious article. What I wrote has every right to be posted.

You can either Restore my comment, or I will write an ANTI CATHOLIC article that will have freepers in a cat fight that will be remembered for a long time!

Your call!


14 posted on 03/18/2013 9:43:57 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
This thread is in the Religion Forum.

Your post #12 was removed for use of potty language. All such posts on the Religion Forum are pulled as soon as we see them. The guideline is applied even-handedly to all RF posts.

15 posted on 03/18/2013 9:49:40 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; Jim Robinson

What potty language?

I demand you show me, because I never used it. If you mean the phrase, “Bastard Child”. Sorry, but the word is used in the king James Bible. You need me to list the many times it is in there?

I guess we are now banning words that God finds acceptable, and you are now a greater discerner of language than our All Mighty God is?

Again, when does an article from Human Events get special privilege?

Not all things posted in the Religious Forum are protected.

So what say you Jim? Is this post from Human Events protected?


16 posted on 03/18/2013 9:58:50 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I already sent you a Freepmail so that you could replace the problem word and repost. I’ll send it again.


17 posted on 03/18/2013 10:00:59 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: MrChips; moder_ator
Thank you, here it is again,
No, the magic of the medieval Church is not what it was, but only because our view of it is colored by the modern-Protestant world in which we now live, one in which the sacred and sacramental character of everyday life, attended by an expectation of the miraculous around every corner, is no longer self-evident, no longer part of our mentality.

I think Not!

It is the Catholics in America that have helped usher in Socialism. The evangelicals overwhelmingly support and vote for Christian values.

Catholics on the other hand have always backed Socialists, Kings, and other tyrannical leaders who enslave the common man. There were those like, Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, who went against the grain, but most did not.

I get real tired of the way many Catholics seem to push historical revisionism when it comes to their Church. Sorry, but the history of the Catholic church has not been to support the freedom of the common man. It has had a history of supporting those who would enslave the common man.

Christ was NOT a Catholic, and Peter was NOT the first Pope. The Catholic church made it punishable by death for anyone other than a priest to read the Scriptures.

The Reformation freed men so they could properly worship Christ and read the Scriptures that God gave all men to read! Like it or not, the Reformation helped free men who were enslaved by a church that became the bastard child of the ruling Kings of Europe.

Why else do you think so many P{opes were brothers of kings. You either inherited the throne of your father, or you were banished to the church. If you were good at politics, you could rise in the ranks and become a Cardinal and maybe even Pope. Where do you think all those younger brothers went after the king died. They used to kill their brothers to eliminate any challenge to their throne.

Amazing what happens when men can freely chose between God and the world. Sadly, most will chose the world, but forcing them to chose God will not save their soul, they need to do so willingly. That is why you do not baptize children, you only baptize those who are old enough to freely chose who their God and Savior will be!

Sorry, but without the Reformation, we would still be owned by the Lords and tied to the land they own, while being told by the catholic Church, “God wants us to head the King and suffer”.

By the way, do you have a coin to help build the Pope’s bathhouse? After all, you know that everytime,

“Coin in the coffer rings, the soul from purgatory springs.”

18 posted on 03/18/2013 10:04:57 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I have no idea, but please don’t give our hardworking volunteer moderators a hard time. You can ask pleasantly.

Thanks,

Jim


19 posted on 03/18/2013 10:54:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: OneVike

By the way, the potty word in question was probably the word spelled c-r-a-p. It’s not allowed on our Religion forum.


20 posted on 03/18/2013 10:56:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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