Posted on 11/26/2012 1:17:49 PM PST by victim soul
I wasnt a Christian when I became pro-life. I was kind of anti-Christian. I was converted on the basis of science, reason, ethics, and human rights.
A year later, I was confirmed in the Catholic Church. I dont think thats a coincidence. But I also dont think one has to be a Christian to be pro-life.
I do, however, believe that one has to be pro-life to be a Christian.
Why? Well, because, duh.
I mean, is it really necessary to go into deep biblical study over this issue? Is it necessary to quote Exodus 21:22-23, or Psalm 139:13-15, or Matthew 18:10, or Jeremiah 1:5? Is there even really anything to argue about? I think the big argument about whether you can be a Christian and be pro-choice is B.S. I think that deep down, every Christian who knows the truth of abortion knows the answer to this.
Is it possible to have even a rudimentary understanding of Christianity and think abortion is okay? Can any of us really imagine Jesus Christ holding a womans hand and encouraging her to have an abortion?
I was astounded when, a few years after becoming pro-life, I discovered that there were denominations of Christianity that were not explicitly pro-life. I was shocked when I learned there were Christian denominations that were explicitly pro-choice.
I did a little research, and of the major branches of Christianity, the only ones I found with a strong pro-life platform were the Catholics, the Southern Baptists, the Eastern Orthodox, and the Evangelicals. There are thousands of Protestant denominations, so Im sure I missed some, but of the major ones, these are the only ones I have found. Please correct me if there are more
Id love to hear that there are more. That there are so few Christian denominations who have an official pro-life platform is troublesome. What is even more troublesome is that there are many Christians who, despite having submitted to the authority of a church that tells them abortion is a grave and mortal sin comparable to almost nothing else, believe in abortion rights and vote for them, against clear instruction from their church. Southern Baptists and Evangelicals who are pro-abortion are less common, and, ironically, they do not have the same belief that their church can separate them from full communion with Christ through excommunication, as Catholics do.
According to large denominations of Presbyterians, Methodists, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Quakers, Church of Christ, and more, abortion is not incompatible with Christianity, which is the same as saying abortion is not incompatible with Christ.
Do you believe that? Do you believe that pro-choice Presbyterians, Methodists, Episcopalians, et al. actually believe that?
I dont. I dont buy it for a second. I dont for one second think, if Jesus Christ appeared before a congregation of pro-choice Christians and asked them their opinion on abortion, they would look Jesus in the eye and say abortion is okay. I dont believe for one second that a pro-choice Christian would stand in a clinic with Jesus Christ and watch a woman have an abortion.
Maybe Im wrong. Maybe they have really convinced themselves that abortion is kindness to women, and somehow not cruelty to and the killing of an innocent, dependent human being.
And hey, maybe my understanding of Christianity is completely bass-ackwards. Maybe Christianity is not really about loving and helping those in need, protecting the innocent, telling the truth, and bravely defending justice and righteousness. Maybe Christianity is about intentionally and specifically ending an innocent human life if it is inconvenient or difficult, and encouraging women to solve their problems with violence against their children. Maybe suffer the little children to come unto Me is just pretty words, or just a poetic way of telling people to make sure the children they allow to live outside the womb go to Sunday school.
Jesus wanted Christians to be kind. No one argues with that. But kind to whom, exactly? And what does kind mean? Just going around being nice to everyone is lovely if youre a saffron-robed Tibetan monk, or a spaced-out hippie. But if youre the slightest bit aware, and if you have any concept of justice, you must admit that, like David Mamet said, [k]indness to the wicked is cruelty to the righteous. We have to get over this idea that encouraging terrible behavior is ever kind.
So, if we apply this truth Kindness to the wicked is cruelty to the righteous to abortion, who is the wicked, the mother or the child? The mother, obviously. We dont mean that she utterly sinful and repulsive, but it is she who created this situation in almost every case, and it is never the innocent child. Also, if we choose to do kindness to her instead of the child, someone will die. If we choose to do kindness to the child, no one will die.
Then there is this: choosing to do kindness to the mother by encouraging or allowing her to abort her child is not kindness. It is telling her that doing something despicable and wrong is okay and will help her. That is a lie. Lying is wrong, kids.
Its fun to pretend Jesus was a misty-eyed hippie. Except he wasnt. The culture we live in tells us Jesus was okay with, for example, adultery, because he saved a woman from being stoned to death for committing it. They leave out the part where told her to sin no more, because nowadays the only sin is believing in sin. Our culture too often confuses mercy with leniency. They are not the same thing.
I have no doubt that Jesus was kind, but I dont think he was nice not in the way we mean it today. He told us to love everyone. Loving everyone does not mean smiling and shrugging at everyones sin. I dont expect mine to be smiled and shrugged at. If I wanted that, I would be a Unitarian Universalist. Telling people killing their babies is okay is not loving. Its not true. Its not righteous. Its not Christian.
Saying publicly that abortion is not Christian is judgmental and mean, or so I have been told repeatedly. Well, Im judgmental and mean, I guess.
Look, I know I am a sinner. I sin all the time. Im horrible and lowly. I fail constantly. But I am a Christian, and I rely on the mercy of Christ to save me. What I dont do is pretend my sins are not sins. I have done it before we all have, probably and I had to repent. You cant go around indignantly declaring that grave, life-destroying sins are fine with Jesus because it makes you more modern and hip and with it, or because it sounds nice, or because hell yeah womens rights.
Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:
Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.
Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:
Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.
Catholic social ministry begins and ends with Jesus Christ, he said. If it doesnt, it isnt Catholic.
~Archbishop Chaput
You quit elementary logic at the same time?
No one here is arguing that one who committed an abortion cannot be, upon repentance, cleansed of that sin. Of course she can.
The question is, can one be pro-abortion and at the same time be Christian? The answer is no, just like one cannot be atheist and at the same time Christian. The issue is not sin, but advocacy of sin as a matter of belief.
Actually, your post is wrong in so many ways, it’s not even worth spending time to answer. It must be the water...
I can’t speak for all Protestants.
The short answer to both your posts is that salvation is based entirely on Gods grace alone, paid for through the death of Christ, received by faith in that gift. The faith that saves is never alone. It is always accompanied by the outward expression of the new life within. The outward expression shows whether the person was born into God’s family. The outward expression is not what saves. Only the death of Christ, received by entrusting ourselves to Him alone saves.
Good article, except for this little line: “There are thousands of Protestant denominations ...”
If there are “thousands” of Protestant denominations, then there are 223 Catholic denominations. According to the source that many Roman Catholic apologists mis-represent.
No, there are actually closer to 21 major Protestant “traditions” (what we usually think of as “denominations”).
Not meaning to hijack the thread. Just didn’t want this little lie to go unchallenged.
And you don’t have to be Christian to be pro-life. But it helps.
Yes, Christ died for all of our sins. And we have to repent of all our sins. “Repent and be saved!” “Repent and believe the God News!” A person who repents of abortion, is not “pro-choice.” No more than a person who repents of a war crime is pro-war-crime.
But hey, "Believe the GOD News" works, too. :o)
“Thousands” would be an overblown claim in a Catholic-on-Protestant polemic, but even in that context not a “lie”, — it depends on counting. Here, the author simply meant to point out that all Protestant denominations are hard to account for, so the statement that put the Southern Baptists and the Evangelicals in one group and “large denominations of Presbyterians, Methodists, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Quakers, Church of Christ” in the other may by necessity overlook some denominations. He also asked to be corrected and in fact I believe he was, in the case of Missouri Synod Lutherans. I would not call such a carefully put distinction a “lie”.
If you carefully read my post as I asked, you would see that we actually agree.
Catholic Bishops Help Pass Pelosicare
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-bishops-help-pass-pelosicare/
PA Catholic Conf: "giving weight to one [moral] issue would result in endorsement of the candidate"
(Arlington VA) Bishop Loverde's pre-election letter
Catholic Caucus: Letter Bishop Dan Jenky is requiring to be read Sunday by priests[Peoria]
Bishop [Daniel Jenky] to Pro-Abort Catholic Politicians, Bureaucrats, Voters: God Is Not Mocked
Catholic Bishop: Vote for Obama Stretches the Imagination [DiMarzio of Brooklyn]
Why Catholics Cant Comply with the HHS Mandate
Bishop David Ricken: This Could Put Your Own Soul in Jeopardy. [Catholics voting anti-life]
Green Bay bishop urges parishioners to vote against candidates who support abortion, gay marriage
Archbishop Chaput: We Are Catholics Before We Are Americans
Archbishop Chaput: Democrats have gotten worse on abortion because Catholics havent left
Uruguay bishops say lawmakers who support abortion are excommunicated
Cardinal George warns US secularization is more serious than elections
Conservatives Praise Billy Grahams Call to Vote Biblical Values
Miami archdiocese sues over 'real threat' from HHS mandate
Ontario Bishop Mulhall: We Wont Let the Government Define Catholic Teaching
Bishop to Biden: No Communion in Colorado Springs Diocese
Archbishop Lori says attacks on life, liberty directly linked
Catholic bishops: Bidens debate remark on contraception mandate not true
(Archbishop) Chaput: Dont Let Biden Get Away With Misleading on HHS Mandate
Why the Little Sisters of the Poor Oppose the HHS Mandate
USCCB Responds To Inaccurate Statement Of Fact On HHS Mandate Made During Vice Presidential Debate
Latest Challenge to HHS Mandate Rejected by Federal Court: A Sign of Whats to Come?
Baptist Colleges Sue Obama Admin Over HHS-Abortion Mandate
Who Are We?: Catholic Faith in Light of the HHS Mandate
The New Catholic Debate Over the HHS Mandate
s it Moral to Comply with the HHS Mandate?
Bishop Paprocki warns of 'intrinsic evils' in Democratic platform
Moral Implications of US Health Mandate Weighed by Ethics Panel [Advises Businesses Drop Coverage] Obama Campaign Speech: No Compromise on Abortion Mandate
Pope: U.S. faces threats to religious freedom of unprecedented gravity
Catholic Group [Priests for Life] to Defy New Obamacare Pro-Abortion Mandate
Federal District Court Upholds Arizona Abortion Restrictions
Catholic business owners score win against ObamaCare mandate
Catholic business owners score win against ObamaCare mandate
First Plaintiff Beats Obama HHS-Abortion Mandate in Court (Breaking News!)
University kills insurance plan for students over Obamacare provisions
National Catholic Register on HHS Mandate - This Shall Not Stand!
Evangelical heavyweight sues: Wheaton College files 24th lawsuit against HHS mandate
Obama defends HHS mandate: not fair that Catholics wont fund birth control
Law Prof at Catholic College Says Bishops Crossing Church/State Line, Suggests Penalties
Some Lutherans Back Catholic Position on Contraceptive Mandate
Obama defends HHS mandate: not fair that Catholics wont fund birth control
Obama defends HHS mandate: not fair that Catholics wont fund birth control
Government cannot take away true freedom, Archbishop Chaput teaches
Repair my house: renewing the roots of religious liberty
Bishops Take on Soros
USCCB responds to group funded by George Soros which issued talking points ...
New Video: HHS Mandate and Religious Liberty
"Open Letter on Religious Freedom" (Religious leaders protest HHS mandate)
Michele Bachmann: Washington is taking notice of HHS mandate backlash (exclusive) Religious Freedom Reaffirmed; US Bishops Unanimous
Catholic Health Association reverses course on mandate accommodation
Catholic Bishops Gather With Focus on Obama Birth-Control Measure
Bishops, That is a Pretty Nice Tax Exemption You Have There. Wouldnt Want Anything Bad ...
Florida Bishop Leads Opposition to Obamacare Mandate
Pelosi: Catholic Archdioceses Were Not Speaking for Catholic Church When They Sued Administration
The HHS Mandate and Wily Providence
Religious liberty group launches massive HHS mandate site
NY Times Scolds Catholics, Calls HHS Mandate Lawsuits a Stunt
NY Times Editorial: Catholic Lawsuits Just "a Dramatic Stunt"
Archbishop: Networks 'missed the boat' on coverage of church's ObamaCare lawsuits
Religious freedom vs. Obamacare
U.S. Bishops Prepare Catholics for Civil Disobedience: We May Need to Witness to the Truth by...
On the Mandate, a Dangerous Crack in the Bishops' United Front
Surprise! MSM Ignoring Catholic Lawsuits against Government
Protecting Our Catholic Conscience in The Public Square
Notre Dame: Good News and Bad News
Legatus Files Federal Lawsuit Challenging the HHS Mandate
Boston Archdiocese Bails on Religious Freedom Lawsuit
Evangelicals respond to Catholic lawsuits: We are all Catholic now
Solidarity requires individual involvement, not state programs, Pope says
Catholic Caucus: 43 Catholic organizations [Notre Dame+] sue Obama over HHS
Cardinal Dolan, Cardinal Wuerl, Notre Dame, 40+ Catholic Organizations--Sue Obama
Profs at Jesuit universities lash out at bishops for opposing HHS mandate, gay marriage
The Declaration of Religious Independence
Catholic Bishops Call For Two Weeks of Action Against Obama
Oakland Bishop: Abortion Next Mandated Health Benefit?
Catholic Bishops Call For Two Weeks of Action Against Obama
Catholic Bishops Call For Two Weeks of Action Against Obama
Protest by Catholic activists may hamper Obama reelection bid (Organize! Mobilize! Go!)
Protest by Catholic activists may hamper Obama reelection bid
Catholic Bishops Take on Obama
[Connecticut] Bishops: Don't Make Catholic Hospitals Perform Abortions
Obama taking similar path as Hitler and Stalin: Illinois Bishop Daniel Jenky
Obama taking similar path as Hitler and Stalin: Illinois bishop Jenky
Bishop Calls for Heroic Catholicism, Rips Obamas Radical Pro-Abortion Agenda
Bishops tell Catholics to disobey 'unjust laws
Bishops warned: Obama will seize assets, only proper response is "Courageous Defiance"
The Profound, Unapologetic and Timely Reflections of Archbishop Chaput [Catholics in Public Life]
Vatican Cardinal: If Catholic employers provide contraceptive coverage they cooperate in sin
Catholics Urged to Imitate St. Thomas More in Contraception Battle
Cardinal Dolan criticizes Obama contraception policy as radical intrusion' (still)
Calling for Calm (Spokane's bishop wants to talk hot topics,...)
Gvmt minister (Canada) rebukes bishops on Catholic sexual teaching: Youre not allowed to do that anymore!
Pres. Obama invokes social Darwinism. Mr. President, look in the mirror.
WaPo Blog Says Jesus Would Support Obamacare
We Will NOT Render Unto Caesar What Belongs to God! [Archbishop Robert Carlson]
Dolan describes Obamas about-face on contraception mandate>
(NY Cardinal) Dolan: We Cant Back Down (Appears on the O'Reilly Factor)
Obamacare Mandate in Deep Trouble
ACTION ITEM ALERT! Pres. Obama, through a minion, attacks Catholic chaplains once again
Contraception mandate violates federal law, say legal experts
Virginia AG: If Obama's Mandate Stands, the Gov't Can Order You To Do Anything
What the media doesnt want you to know: Americans hate the HHS mandate
As Health Care Laws Trial Approaches, Two-Thirds Say Ditch Individual Mandate
Catholic Bishops Declare Obama's 'Unjust and Illegal Mandate' 'A Violation of Personal Civil Rights'
Health-Care Challenge Evokes Roosevelt New Deal High Court Clash
First Secular Business Sues Over HHS Mandate
Evangelical leaders urged to mobilize against administration contraception policy
Obama Admin Widens Abortifacient Birth Control Mandate to College Students
Do They Know Who Theyre Messing With? (Obama Administration vs. the Catholic Church?)
Religious Freedom and Protecting Healthcare for Women and Children
U.S. Catholic bishops pressured Komen breast cancer charity over Planned Parenthood
New York Times accused of Catholic bashing, double standard on religion
Liberal Catholics Spooked by United Bishops for Religious Freedom
US Bishops Dig-in on Threats Against Religious Liberty: USCCB Statement on HHS Mandate
US Bishops Decry Illegal and Unjust HHS Mandate, Call for Prayer and Penance
President Obama Perplexed by 'War on Religion' Charges
No Compromise
BISHOPS DONT BUDGE ON RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (Catholic Caucus)
Bishops Consider Broader Focus in Birth-Control Fight
Bishop [Lori] Hopes to Restart White House Contraception Talks
Obama Admin Finalizes Rules: $1 Abortions in ObamaCare
Obama's HHS mandate will destroy the Little Sisters of the Poor's ministry to the elderly
Amish, Ok. Catholics, No. (HHS Mandate)
Gloria Purvis: Opposing the Contraception Mandate
Ave Maria University Files Lawsuit Against Obama Administration
Obamas Contraception Spin Machine (Administration misreads the Catholic Church yet again)
Obama the Apostate (Reckoning with the Catholic Church)
Dolan: White House invoked support of enlightened Catholics in refusing to budge on mandate
Deadly health risks for women: The unspoken side of the Obama birth control mandate
HHS mandate threatens Little Sisters of the Poor elder care
The Noise-to-Signal Ratio at the USCCB
Catholic Missionary Suing Government Willing to Risk Health (Crohn's) Over HHS Mandate
Cardinal Dolan: White House Lectured My USCCB Staff On How to Interpret Catholic Teaching
Obama Admin lectures Card. Dolan and USCCB. Dolan responds. (Fr Z Fisking of Article)
HHS mandate could close 13 percent of the nations hospitals
Bishop Lori rips America editorial on HHS mandate Priest warns Obama: Better knock the Catholic Church out now - youve awakened the giant
Irony - Bar Boots Denver Bishop giving private talk on threats to religious liberty
Top U.S. Bishop to All Bishops: We Did Not Ask for This Fight, But We Will Not Run From It
Obama Risks $100 Billion If Catholic Hospitals Close
Catholic bishops exhort faithful to oppose Obamacare in a Sunday message
Congress Told HHS Mandate Fines Could Total $620,000
Cardinal Dolan blasts White House contraception plan as 'freedom of religion battle'
The Coming Persecution (a priest's projection on what is to come if Obama re-elected)
The HHS Mandate: Cardinal George and the Bishops Are Fighting the Last War (Excellent Analysis)
Cardinal Dolan indicates possible legal actions; rebuffs "cave-in" Catholics
From Cardinal Dolan: We Have to be Realistic and Prepare for Tough Times
Biden: We 'Screwed up' Contraception Mandate
Priest To Planned Parenthood: Here Comes The Catholic Church
The Catholic Diaspora and the Tragedy of Liberal Catholicism
A sermon explaining what Pres. Obama is doing.
Holder: 1st Amendment Allows Gov't to Force Catholics to Buy Sterilizat-Contracept-Abortn Insurance
Sebelius Excludes Bishops From Obamacare Mandate Compromise Talks
On "Things Not Subject to Human Government"
Church Could Be Forced To 'Give Up' Public Work, Cardinal George Warns
Cardinal George: No Catholic Hospitals in 2 Years Unless HHS Mandate is Rescinded
The Way Freedom of Religion Should Work
Religious Liberty Homily
Obama Faces More Lawsuits Over Pro-Abortion HHS Mandate
Pope Benedict Defends Religious Liberty
The Sisters and Universal Health Care: Forgetting What Religion Is
Time Magazine Op-Ed: Perhaps Some Time in Jail for Catholic Bishops Defending Religious Liberty
Baptist College Sues Over Contraceptive Mandate
Government Assault May Have Just Begun, Cardinal Dolan Warns
Responding to Your Questions for MORE! (Eblast from Grace Before Meals priest)
Seven states, Catholic plaintiffs file largest lawsuit against HHS mandate
Catholic CEO calls mandate compromise 'divide and conquer' strategy
Catholic Bishop's Prez: Our Rights Dont Depend on Obama
Obama's defense of religion {Mega BARF-Alert - talk about spin...}
Contraception and the Culture War [Deepening Catholic-Evangelical Relationship]
Cardinal Timothy Dolan issues strongest statement yet against the HHS mandate
Clergy Declare State of Emergency for Churches Over Obama Demands
Father, We're Ready for that Homily on Contraception Now
Contraception, Against Conscience [Why EWTN Will Not Comply With Obama's Mandate]
Bishops Decry Obama birth Control Plan, Yet Catholic Hospitals Report Sterilizations
The Catholic Betrayal of Religious Freedom
Obama Responds to Belmont Abbey Lawsuit. Epic Fail.
Catholic Charities Insists it has not Endorsed HHS Mandate
Chaput emerging as a warrior-bishop
Archbishop Chaput: Its not a compromise, and it needs to be rescinded
Pro-Abortion Fingerprints on HHS Mandate
Dem (Congressman) Scolds Bishop (at House Oversight hearin)
Evangelicals & Catholics Together: In Defense of Religious Freedom (vs. Islam, Secularism)
Catholic priest, pro-life activists arrested outside White House protesting Obama mandate
Obama Contradicted: HHS Banned Consideration of Cost Effectiveness in Developing Contraception
BREAKING: Every Single Bishop Has Condemned the Obama/HHS Mandate!
Pro-life nuns: Were not exempt - Obama mandate would force us to pay for abortion-inducing drugs
Contraception ruling: Democrats accuse clergy of complicity with GOP at hearing
Catholic League on Sebeliuss admission before a Senate committee
Voris: Obama Able to Neutralize Catholic Resistance Thanks to Bishops Past Complicity
Abortion, Contraception and the Church Fathers (Catholic teaching unchanged for 2000 yrs)
Head of U.S. bishops: Obama compromise on mandate a hill of beans; opposition intensifies
USCCB President: 'Harder and Harder' to Accept Obama's Word
White House Criticizes Bishops, Trumpets Support from CHA, Catholic Charities
Political Science 101: how the White House snookered the USCCB on the 'compromise'
What Did CHA's Carol Keehan Know and When Did She Know It?
Pope Shares Remarks on American Culture with Bishops; Issues Call to Laity By: Msgr. Charles Pope
USCCB President says Obama offered next to nothing; expresses disappointment with Sr. Keehan
Evangelical Leaders Call for Civil Disobedience Against U.S. Government
Liberal Jews Speak Against HHS Mandate
Top nun who supported Obama mandate thanks pro-choice group in private e-mail
Catholic Health Association collaboration with Obama admin on mandate a scandal: Catholic leader
Obama's revised HHS mandate won't solve problems, USCCB president says
Fr. Frank Pavone: No compromise - the mandate has to go, period
Time To Admit It: The Church Has Always Been Right On Birth Control
Culture with Local Bishops and Issues a Call to the Laity [Ecumenical]
Bishops Reject Obama's 'Accommodation' - President's political hemorrhaging to continue.
HHS Mandate - Nothing Has Changed (Donald Cardinal Weurl)
Obama Chief of Staff: New Pro-Abortion Mandate Here to Stay
WH: We Are Done Negotiating With Catholics
Opponents launch new White House petition rejecting Obama rewrite of birth control mandate
Did the Leaders of the Catholic Church Make a Deal with the Redistributionist Devil?
Archbishop Chaput: HHS mandate insulting and dangerous
Cardinal-Designate Dolan no longer trusts Obama
American Catholicisms Pact With the Devil
Notre Dame Faculty to Obama: This Is a Grave Violation of Religious Freedom and Cannot Stand
White House: No More Compromise on Contraception
Obama's anti-religious implosion
Lew: Obama's latest stance on birth-control mandate final, puts issue to rest (CAPTION)
Pat Buchanan: 'Obama is trampling on God's turf' (Video)
W.H. official: Contraceptive rule stands
Obama chief of staff: No more compromise, contraceptive rule is done deal
Bishops Reject White Houses New Plan on Contraception (Obama continues his "War On Religion")
Faith/Pro-Life Leaders to Challenge Mandate by Praying and Risking Arrest in Front of the WH
Catholic Bishops: Don't Revise, Rescind
Obama's contempt for the Constitution
How the Catholic Church Became Cool Overnight
Chuck Colson Reacts to Obamas Compromise on Required Abortion Care for Church Employees
US Bishops: Obama's 'Compromise' Has No Clear Protection...(Needless Government Intrusion)
Protests Continue Over Insurance for Contraception, Abortifacients (Feds Under Increasing Pressure
Bishops to Obama: No dice
Paul VI: danger of this power passing into the hands of those public authorities ...
Michael Moore Goes On Anti-Catholic Twitter Rant, Distorts Contraception Debate
Religious controversy burns Obama again (the rookie Hussein is in WAY over his pay grade)
Another Catholic college vows it will not violate conscience on Obama mandate
Lutherans join chorus of voices slamming HHS contraceptive mandate
The Obama HHS 'Compromise' Switches the Tiger for the Lion (Not all Catholics buying Obama's bull)
Hannity on now with Priests, Pastors and Rabbis. Please watch
EDITORIAL: Obamas free abortion pills
U.S. bishops express concerns about Obama mandate accommodation
What Compromise? This Policy Leaves Religious Liberty in Peril and Planned Parenthood Smiling (Albert Mohler Opinion)
Bishops Renew Call To Legislative Action On Religious Liberty
Southern Baptist leader: Obama gave Christians the dismissive back of his hand
Obama's Act of Tyranny
Bishops Were Prepared for Battle Over Birth Control Coverage
'Accounting gimmick' -- Obama compromise still threatens religious liberty, leaders say
Bishops concerned over reworded mandate; other Catholic leaders slam as insult to injury
Obama Bows to Pressure, but His Religious 'Accommodation' Even Worse
Don't Be Deceived! Evil Obama Policy Now Even MORE Evil!
Obamas Contraceptive 'Compromise' Doesn't Pass the Smell Test ("It doesn't change a thing")
Compromise or Accommodation, its still unacceptable. (updated from Catholic Vote)
Pres. Obamas Plan B compromise, Sr. Keehan, and the Magisterium of Nuns
Land Says Obama Mandate Most Anti-Catholic Government Action in 150 Years
Motive, Means and Opportunity: Obamas Assault on Catholics
(Exempt Catholics) Joe Biden, Bill Daley warned of contraceptive backlash
(Tim) Thomas makes second political statement (Stands With Catholics)
Southern Baptist leader: If Obama mandate isnt changed, Christians will go to jail
Over 150 congressional leaders demand repeal of HHS mandate
Boehner vows to overturn Obamas birth control coverage rule
Boehner: Congress to overturn birth control policy if Obama does not reverse course
O'Brien says Archdiocese of Baltimore won't offer birth control coverage
Archbishop of San Francisco says Obama ruling strikes at religious freedom
How Obama Lost the Catholic Vote
I am going to stick with fellow Catholics in Pres. Obamas war on Catholics. Wherein Fr. Z rants.
Unholy War
Six Things Everyone Should Know about the HHS Mandate
Santorum: Obama Hostile to Christians
Understanding Oppostion to the HHS Mandate (Part 1): Why the Church Wont Pay for Contracept
The Bishops Chickens Coming Home to Roost.
65 Orthodox Church bishops call on Obama to rescind the unjust contraception mandate
Doug Kmiec Writes Obama: 'Friendship Will Not Permit Me to Disregard Duty to Faith and Country'
Catholic Outcry Over Obama Administration's Birth Control Decision Could Factor In Presidential Race
Standing with the Bishops [Catholic Caucus]
Updated: *167* Bishops (More Than 90% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
Outrage!
Military Tells Chaplains What They Can and Cant Say About HHS/ObamaAssault on Religion
Updated: *153* Bishops (Over 80% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
href="http://www.sundayscripturestudy.com/this_week.html">An Affront Catholics Agree On [Liberal and Conservative Catholics Against Obama Mandate]
Army Silenced Chaplains Last Sunday
Catholic Military Archdiocese & Chaplains interfered with last Sunday by Pres. Obamas Admin
The Anti-Catholic President v. the Catholic Bishops
Sen. Rubio introduces bill to reverse Obama birth control mandate
Churches balk at birth control rule - Catholics wont comply, Bishop Kevin Rhoades says
Protestants and Jews declare to White House: We stand with Catholics
Checking the Air Outside [Bp. Zubik's follow up to Obama's To Hell with You]
Mohler [Southern Baptist] Says Insurance Mandate Not Just 'Catholic' Issue
An Open Letter to President Barack Obama Concerning Recent Tyranny (With Pictures!)
Lincoln bishop: prepare for 'suffering' under HHS mandate
Bishop David Zubik confronts Obama
Obamas war on the church
Pope hits out at 'radical secularism'
We Will Not Comply: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
We Will Not Comply: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
Bruskewitz: Fight Insurance Ruling [Sebelius a "bitter, fallen away Catholic"]
Letter from Archbishop John G. Vlazny on the matter of freedom of conscience and decisions by HHS
Bishop Olmsted's Letter to Catholics [Catholic Caucus]
Liberty for the Amish & Quakers but not Catholics. . .
Contraception mandate prompts Peoria bishop to instate St. Michael Prayer (Catholic Caucus)
Phoenix bishop (Olmstead): defy feds on birth control
A letter from Archbishop Dennis M. Schnurr concerning HHS edict
Speak honestly: abortion is the killing of tiny human beings in the womb Denver bishop
Bishop [Daniel Jenky] Blasts Secularist Intolerance, Calls For Assertive Action to Defend Church
(Pittsburgh Bishop Zubik comments:) HHS delays rule on contraceptive coverage
Dolan: Natural law, not religious preference, dictates all life sacred
Religious leaders blast HHS over contraception mandate
Mandated Contraception, Sterilization: Caesar Demands Church Violate Conscience
OBAMAS CONTEMPT FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (mandates coverage of sterilization & contraception)
Implications of Obama Admin move to force Cath hospitals to provide contraception and sterilizations
Catholic doctors group launches petition against contraception mandate
Contraception mandate tramples religious freedom, US bishops say
Are you saying you don’t believe the Bible? Specifically the Book of James? LOL!
And thousands of Protestant churches.
This is usually posted in response to saying all Catholics are Roman (or Latin Rite) Catholics.
I think the question really is, Must a Christian be an absolutist on abortion, or said the other way, Can a Christian accept abortion in certain circumstances? My belief is that abortion is acceptable in some circumstances, and that our goal should be to minimize abortions rather than to abolish it completely.
How Many Protestant Denominations Are There?
The 20,000 30,000 numbers and David Barrett's statistics
|
No, I’m saying your selective reading of James is incorrect - and you managed to ignore Romans completely.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.