Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian
The daughter of a Latter Day Saints bishop and author of a book on Mitt Romney’s Mormonism says that she has concerns about a Romney presidency.
Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either.
“To me, as a conservative, a Republican and a Christian, I cannot justify a vote for either one of the Obamney baby-killing, annihilators of the family, government healthcare mandated to take over our economy socialist evil twins – and be right with our Creator,” she wrote.
Erickson pointed out that neither seek to ban abortion, and both have shown support for homosexuality.
“Republicans say that they have to vote for Romney because we are losing our country to socialism and after another four years of Obama, there will be nothing left of America. I can’t say that I disagree,” she said. “However, what is never talked about is that Romney has his own goals for the Mormon Church [and] The Mormon Plan for America, and while he is cunning and a good debater, he lacks the judgment to discern that he will not become a ‘god’ in his next life and receive his own planet.”
Erickson has been making the rounds on various talk shows and has been featured in news publications for at least the past year, discussing her concerns with Mormonism and a potential Romney presidency.
“While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes,” she wrote in her book Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America.
“It’s like our eyes are glazed over when it comes to the religion of Mitt Romney,” Erickson told talk show host Thomas Hartmann in further discussing the matter. “If you just knew what Mitt Romney believed, you would run far away from this candidate.”
Erickson states that she grew up in a devout Mormon household, and was even married in the LDS temple according to mandated rituals. However, she laments many things that she observed and was subjected to.
“It was horrific,” she told WND. “There I was standing naked [at my wedding]. They brought this bowl of water and started washing my body down, and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.”
Erickson stated that because Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon, he espouses beliefs that are very concerning, including that Jesus was not born of a virgin, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, and that Romney will one day become one of many deities.
“Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven,” she said. “He is going be given his own kingdom/planet. He will be able to call his wife Ann by the secret name that is only given to him in the Mormon secret ceremonies … When he calls her on to his planet, they will have relations to populate the planet with spirit children, as they believe our God has a wife on His planet, and He did the same, and they believe that we are our God’s spirit children from our god mother and god father.”
“So, all of us here on earth, we existed in a pre-existence with God as a spirit baby, then we came down and inhabited these little babies’ bodies that are here on the earth,” Erickson continued, explaining LDS beliefs. “[This was done] so that we could go through our process to venture into godhood.”
She said that there has been a longstanding agenda in the LDS establishment to place Mormons into governmental offices.
“[The LDS establishment has] been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on earth,” Erickson explained.
“They believe that when Jesus comes back to earth in the millennium, that He’s going to come to Jackson County, Missouri, which that’s where they believe the Garden of Eden is,” she added.
Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”
“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”
Erickson said that in Mormon ceremonies, participants must swear to keep secret what goes on behind closed doors. She advised that in rituals that she was involved with, she observed people being forced to make gestures signifying their death if they revealed what takes place.
“They actually had us [symbolically] slashing our guts open and our guts falling to the ground if we told people of the secret dogma of the ceremonies,” she stated.
When asked how Erickson knows that Romney espouses these same beliefs, she replied that Romney has long had high ranking in the LDS establishment, holding office as bishop like her father, and working as a Mormon missionary in France for a time.
“You cannot get more Mormon than Mitt Romney,” she stated. “And I have been through the same temple ceremonies … to follow the church first before anything else.”
“To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the resurrection [of Jesus] can be made to look silly, too,” Romney told CNN last year after being informed of Erickson’s writings and speeches against him.
Because of these concerns, in Erickson’s article this week, she noted that many will vote third party this year or skip the presidential race on the ballot.
“Some have said that they will simply not vote for either establishment candidate, [but] instead, in protest, will write-in another name or candidate if they will vote at all,” she wrote. “I, and approximately 90 million Americans, agree with Charles Spurgeon who says, ‘Of two evils, choose neither.’”
and how about voting for a fella who thinks JS was a TRUE prophet of GOD?
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Again, the president of the United States is the head of the executive branch of our government.
Can you demonstrate how what you say above disqualifies him?
The endowment ceremony as described is inaccurate at best, and I'm not even going to try to “fix” that tar baby.
The founding fathers of this nation were masons. They took almost identical covenants with God.
Mormons believe that the Constitution is an inspired document.
Obama believes the constitution is “a flawed document”.
Mitt was not my first, second, or even third choice; now he is the only alternative to a second term for Obama.
I vote for the USA to survive.
Delph (back from the dead, but still logical)
You are going to stretch yourself worse than Plastic Man on a bad day if you keep doing this.
And here, after all this time, I thought I was the Master of it!
I could; if I had said that.
But since I didn't, even YOU are qualified to be President!
Per: Freemasons among the U.S. Founding Fathers...
Signers of Declaration: 56...% of them who were Masons: 9-16%
Signers of U.S. Constitution: 39...% of them who were Masons: 13-33%
Above link has additional links to click on for further specifics...
If the % on the low side above are correct, then that's like saying, "Since 10% of San Franciscans are homosexual, the citizens of San Francisco are homosexual."
But...that's "DU" type of thinking...
ALL: This is the kind of "logic" we get from a convuluded Mormon poster...Many Mormons often opt for revising history, which tends NOT to be very kind to Mormon pasted-over realities.
I could repeat the tale about Jimmy and the Mad Rabbit Attack; but someone from the Rabbit Lovers Association of American would be on my case for using that as a reason to not vote for Carter again.
I vote for Americans to understand what MORMONism teaches.
They can then make there own decisions.
(They appear to have LEARNED about OBAMA, and are now ready to rectify THAT mistake!)
Can Resty and Sandy be far behind??
(Are you guys allowed to admit that the rituals are NOT found in any of your official books of scripture?)
First allow me to be specific as to "why" that is...and then I'll comment on the time period (1834-March, 1836) that Joseph Smith elaborated on this...
Smith mentions the Constitution in Lds Doctrines & Covenants 101...where in vv. 77-80 he says its purposes include (1) "for the rights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles"; and (2) "That every man may act in doctrine and principle pertaining to futurity, according to the moral agency which I have given unto him, that EVERY man may be accountable for his own sins in the day of judgment" (vv. 77-78...with v. 80 concluding this by using the word "purpose")
Now, I highlighted the above because while the Bible elaborates on God's judgment, man's sin, and the need for men to be accountable to God for that sin...the Christian Gospel is that Jesus suffered for our sin/sins. (That's what the cross is all about)...
The Bible focuses, therefore, a Day of Judgment for the sins of those who will not trust Christ; and...for all of us re: our labor...our work...or lack of it...
1010RD, an Lds poster who doesn't like to concede he is one, mentioned yesterday that the other purpose Lds highlight as to the raising of this Constitution and this land being established as "free" was for the sheer promulgation of the Mormon version of their "gospel." 1010RD specifically used the word "restoration" as its "purpose"
Allow me to "translate" "restorationist" for non-Mormons.
Lds materials left and right couple "THE restoration" with a so-called "universal apostasy that in the Mormon mind lasted almost 1800 years. (Yes, that means in the Mormon worldview that the very men who were behind this nation's Constitution -- and the Christian churches that most of them were indeed a part of -- are deemed by Lds as "apostates.")
So when Lds talk about "true Christianity" being "restored," they usually mean that Lds leaders soundly accuse all Christian sects of practicing "untrue" Christianity...Christian men who Joseph Smith of being "corrupt" as professors of Christianity...as in 100% of such men!
...the Constitution as an inspired document.
Now, let us proceed to "check under the hood" for context of this Mormon claim. Lds indeed believe that the U.S. Constitution was raised up for the very purpose that Mormon "saints" could come along, declare the Christian gospel void & false & 100% of Christian creeds "abominable," and insert the Mormon "gospel" [of legalism] in its place.
Lds not only cite D&C 101:77-80, but also a prayer for the Constitution in D&C 109:54.
So allow us to devote a little time to the context of those verses...and what falls in between. Let's start with D&C 101...A # of verses after vv. 77-80, Joseph Smith threatened that if the Missouri governor and U.S. President refused to hear the importunities of Lds saints..."and if the president heed them not, then will the Lord arise and come forth out of his hiding place, and in his fury vex the nation..." (v. 89)
By four chapters later in the D.C., Joseph Smith was still threatening the Missouri gov-- and later the nation ----thru the following words that got encrypted into Lds temple rituals thru 1926...when George Romney was 19 years old: "...throwing down the towers of mine enemies that may be upon them, and scattering their watchmen, and avenging me of mine enemies unto the third and fourth generation...But first let my army [the Mormon militia] become very great...and that her banners may be terrible unto all nations..." (D&C 105:30-31)
The Lds temple ritual thru 1926 included the phrasing of Mormons vowing in their sacred temples that they would take the Mormon god's "vengeance" upon this nation -- and implement this unto the ensuing third and fourth generations.
I also mentioned D&C 109:54 having a Mormon prayer for the Constitution; well, 19 verses later -- D&C 109:73...Smith said: "That thy church may come forth out of the wilderness of darkness...and terrible as an army with banners;"
You see, Joseph Smith's "worldview" of this period (1834 thru early 1836) was that "the earth is given unto the [Latter-day] saints, to possess it forever and ever." (D&C 103:7)
So just as Mormons have usurped the very purpose of the U.S. Constitution as one applying primarily to the establishment of the Mormon church & gospel; likewise, the very property of ALL the earth is for the purpose of Mormon possession.
And, as we can see from Lds "scriptures" D&C 105:31 and 109:73, Joseph Smith's vision was that Mormons would become a major militia -- and become a "terrible" army unto the nations.
Smith's Illinois Mormon militia in the early to mid 1840s was larger than any military outfit in the region.
He was on his way to such an attempt when, having expended one gun and in possession of a second weapon, he died in a shootout.
I could; if I had said that.
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Gotcha. I did not know you intended to vote for Romney. All this time I thought you were attempting to dissuade voters from voting for Romney due to, how did you put it?, “his discernment about an easily proven deception like MORMONism is a bit troubling”.
I confess that I believe(d) you meant that as a disqualification, if not for others, at least for yourself.
'Tis likely ... just by sheer odds... that some of the 36% who didn't vote in 2008 are fools in their lifechoices...but who knows?; perhaps even a small % are -- as you claimed -- "kooks" [tho who can guess about complete strangers?].
Certainly, if the 36% who didn't vote didn't have a solid reason (suddenly in the hospital, sudden deep need of a family member or neighbor, etc.), then that could be called a "foolish" act of omission.
But that doesn't automatically translate into making them out to be out-and-out "fools" or "kooks" -- your description of them.
But...since you're on a roll...tell us what you really think of 100% of the over 1/3rd of the adult nation that didn't vote in 2008...
(I'm sure your response could you be used for a resume' on a job that registers people to vote...since you're so charming in your "outreach" approach to unregistered voters)
What does :"I'm 'hoping' that the long awaited asteriod will show up about 13 minutes and 27 seconds into the next presidential debate." mean?
If you're not hoping for a Romney win or an Obama win or for us all to be wiped out, what does your above statement mean? What precisely are you hoping for in this election?
LMAO you are funny.
Why don’t you find something beneficial to do instead of baiting me.Try really thinking about how you are wasting your vote. The 1/3rd who didn’t vote are totally irrelevant. I didn’t make them that way, they made themselves that way.
If you don’t vote you should not complain when incompetents get in office. Just like you should not complain if Obama is re-elected because you wanted to vote for John Doe because of your “feelings”. Now we know we will see you here every day complaining about Romney if he gets elected, that’s a given. I will be complaining with you probably, but I won’t see Obama in the White House again if I can help it.
Not sure what you are referring to. Please elucidate.
Even smaller than this:
Revelation 8:10The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water--
Uh; you DO believe one is on it's way; don't you?
that 33% is part of Romney's 47%?
Never said I wasn't going to vote. (Will vote for Virgil Goode)
And hey, as long as Romney doesn't lose by one vote in my state, you can't blame me...right?
Just like you should not complain if Obama is re-elected because you wanted to vote for John Doe because of your “feelings”.
Yeah, I know Dennis Prager & others want to reduce the motivations of third-party voters to mere "feelings"...that it's "cathartic" to do so...and it supposedly stems from some inner push for "purity"...
But Prager is a good talk show host; and a lousy psycho-analyst.
It's real simple:
(a) I don't vote for pro-aborts...I mean, c'mon...not only is it terrible on the pre-born...to be dismembered like that...but it ruins the economy -- to take productive workers and consumers out...besides, it reflects on the "character" of the candidate who says, "Yes, let's dismember some of our very youngest"...
So...that leaves out Romney & Obama both.
(b) I also don't vote for candidates who claim they are "gods in embryo"...which is about 15-20% of all Lds...
LMAO You are so pure.
That’s two votes Virgil will get.
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