Posted on 09/19/2012 11:18:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Should we have the right to disobey Islamic law? The future of western civilization hinges on our response to this question. Right now people are suggesting that hate speech should not be free speech because when people blaspheme Mohammed, Muslim extremists riot and kill.
When some people use this freedom of expression to provoke or humiliate some others values and beliefs, then this cannot be protected in such a way. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon
The extended liberal argument is that if you make Islamists mad, you know theyre going to kill, so you bear some responsibility for those deaths, too. Even Salman Rushie, after a quarter century of living with a fatwa on his head, called the Innocence of Muslims filmmaker disgusting and said, He did it on purpose. I mean, he set out to create a response, and he got it in spades.
When Ezra Levant was hauled before a tribunal in Canada to defend his right to publish the Mohammed cartoons, he was asked what his intent was. He replied,
Why is that a relevant question? We published what we published. The words and pictures speak for themselves. So if I were to say, hypothetically, that the purpose was to instill hatred, incite hatred and cause offense, are you saying thats an acceptable answer? My answer to your question is as follows. We published those cartoons for the intention and purpose of exercising our inalienable rights as free born Albertans to publish whatever the hell we want no matter what the hell you think. Ive probably given 200 interviews to people other than the state where Id give a very thoughtful and nuanced expression of my intent, but the only thing I have to say to the government about why I published it is that its my bloody right to do so. My answer to these two fascists, the one trained in Saudi Arabia and the other one piling on, is that I reserve the right to publish those cartoons for exactly what they complain about. I reserve the right to publish those cartoons to do every offensive thing that they claim is in my heart.
Liberals dont care about protecting the tender feelings of the religious, as evidenced by decades of offenses against Christians and every other faith. They are simply afraid of a group who is willing to kill because theyre offended. And what liberals are really saying, if they were honest, is that we have a moral obligation to obey Islamic law in order to prevent more bloodshed.
They are saying that non-Muslims, living in non-Muslim countries, should voluntarily adhere to Muslim law.
These same people who scream like a goth in the sun at the sight of a nativity scene on public property, are suggesting that non-Muslim governments should use their non-Muslim citizens tax dollars to enforce Islamic blasphemy laws.
Thats insane.
Not only do we have the right to not obey Islamic law, we have the obligation to not obey it - because going along to get along will only result in further oppression. Ive used the secondary crime scene analogy before: Youre in a parking lot, and a criminal sticks a gun in your ribs and demands you drive him somewhere. The parking lot is the primary crime scene, where your kidnapping takes place. The somewhere is the secondary crime scene, where he can safely torture, rape, and murder you at his leisure. Its obviously better to fight back at the primary crime scene even if you are shot, at least its in public where help is more likely to be available. Fighting back at the primary crime scene may scare off an attacker if youre not an easy mark, hell probably move on to another victim. It also may get the attention of others who may help fight him off. Compliance always empowers your kidnapper, never you.
Here, at the primary crime scene is where we need to fight. If we do not forcefully challenge the concept of so-called hate speech not being protected speech, we will eventually lose our right to speak freely, and ultimately, our right to disobey Islamic blasphemy laws. And in that case, can sharia be far behind?
Simple test
Tell a Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Pagan, and Muslim that their religion sucks. Then see which one tries to kill you.
The answer should be obvious. The NWO is alive and well.
Also it is our duty to criticize Islam so as to expose Islam as the evil cult , and lies that it is.
We won’t surrender our freedom of speech to democrats/liberals and Muslims who want to shut us up. We must not give up our freedom to these statist maggots.
My prayer is that every person who follows Mo comes to know Jesus as Lord and Savior. That they turn from their evil ways, confess their sins and live accordingly.
That said, no, I have no obligation to obey their laws.
I plan to violate Islamic law at just about every chance I get.
Pork sandwiches for everyone!
“In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Should we have the right to disobey Islamic law?,”
For starters, this is a stupid question and would only be advanced if the author believed in Islam law, which we do not have thankfully in our good old U.S.A.
Giving Islamic law any credibility here is the stupidest idea so far advanced by the kooky left.
Islamic law means nothing to me. Islam feels free to attack everyone else’s faith but expects to be respected. The world doesn’t work that way.
Sounds like Pershing was onto something we need to immediately re-instate as SOP for dealing with uppity Muslims.
If ALLEN WEST should be named Secretary of Defense, this might damn well happen.
“The soldiers then soaked their bullets in the pigs’ blood, and proceeded to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad.”
Where O where is our General Pershing today?
It is not only our right, it is our duty.
The question itself is perverted, ass-backwards and already presumes compelled obedience to sharia is justified.
"Laura Curtis" wrote this - on her knees.
But far worse, she's trying to get everyone down onto their knees to discuss the subject with her.
What Laura is doing here, folks, is profoundly evil. And she believe she's simply too smart for anyone to see it.
Oh yeah, "Laura." Shill for the Muslims. They'll treat you right.
You arrogant fool.
You might want to read it first.
RTFA!
A right??? We have a duty to disobey Islamic law!
“They are simply afraid of a group who is willing to kill because theyre offended. And what liberals are really saying, if they were honest, is that we have a moral obligation to obey Islamic law in order to prevent more bloodshed.”
As self appointed, know - it - all elitists, American liberals are actually patronizing Muslims. They have always patronized (I didn’t say respect) racial and ethic minorities, whom they consider too weak and ignorant to be responsible for their peccadilloes. The people the liberals really fear and loathe are the middle class “bitter clingers”, whom they regard as loose cannons, prone to get out of control when some unfortunate incident like the World Trade Center affair happens. It is these people who must be restrained in order to prevent more bloodshed.
As an analogy, there was an op-ed piece concerning the Trayvon Martin affair demanding that the “white hispanic” Zimmerman cop a guilty plea and spend ten years in jail in the interest of preventing a race war.
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