Posted on 08/27/2012 6:30:52 PM PDT by stpio
Read paragraph #234 of the Catechism and a powerful recent message from Our Lord's mother about the Holy Trinity, given on Trinity Sunday. Look how far we have gone away, we do not have a choice for a Christian leader and so few care.
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Message of Our Lady - Mary, Full of Grace The Advent of the New World - Words of Our Lady THE TIME OF PREPARATION FOR THE PURIFICATION OF HUMANITY
June 3, 2012 - Feast of the Holy Trinity
Dear children, today, the day of the Lord, with much love and affection I come to bless you in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. United to the Holy Trinity, together we will get the real Peace for the world. My children, the Holy Word of God reveals to you today in this great day when the Holy Church dedicate it to the Holy Trinity that is God. All human beings must submit to the Holy Trinity. They are three distinct persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit with the Divine nature, only the Son has two natures, Divine and human. But they have the same Power, absolute Power over all things. They have always existed as They are Eternal. Therefore all men have the duty to love, adore, praise to the Blessed Trinity. So you must understand that this is a mystery of God. Jesus Christ made it clear to His disciples that they take to all people His teaching on obligatory acceptance for anyone who converts, to worship, love and praise the Holy Trinity. He gave this explanation when He told them that was given all authority in Heaven and on earth, and ordered them to make disciples of Him all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. He told them to teach them to fulfill the Will of God, as He does so. Jesus Christ also told them that He would be with them until the end of the world. My children, the vast wealth that God distributes over all is this: the opportunity to convert, through faith, the belief that God exists, He is invisible to the eye, but you can feel His presence, are able of Loving, to worship Him and be sure that He is taking care at all times of each of you. With faith you are able to correct your mistakes, walking in righteousness, because He is who gives you the ability to accept what is Real. All this is understood by all those who receive the Baptism, because the Baptism is a Grace that God bestows upon you. From the time you were baptized, were born to life in God. You received the grace of the union with the Father, the Son and the Divine Holy Spirit. Who lives in Him will have help from Him, can achieve great things with the help of Him, above all have the Grace to be able to see his mistakes and correct them, learn to apologize and trust that He forgives, has humility, trying to repair the error with the acceptance and love.
When man falls into error, often feel satisfaction, but there are those who recognize, feel ashamed of the error. It is like if someone is in front of a mirror looking at his beautiful face created by God to be always beautiful, passing through a change that causes horror, a formation caused by the sin. And sin is the destruction, destroys even the appearance of a man. This is known because it can be understood, because you know that the possessed are hideously deformed, which is the devil that enters in the person and makes him a tool to terrorize people, sin takes away the beauty of the sinner. God does not want this to any of His children, He teaches you how to avoid falling into this trap and you must learn as much as possible. To protect you, He gave you the Baptism, that ye might be part of Him. With the Baptism you receive the Light of the Holy Spirit, He gives you the Gifts and valuing them you walk in the safe road. My children, let us thank today to the Holy Trinity for giving you the Sacraments, to give you the opportunity to know the value of your lives, to strengthen you to achieve the Salvation.
Nobody lives without God, is constantly present in our lives because He gave us life. Even those who do not believe in Him have the constant care of Him until the hour of death when they have to decide whether they want the life He offers or not. If they want it, will have to convert and if not, will have no Union with Him, will go to hell. God does not abandon anyone, man is he who turns away from Him forever, because do not to Love Him. God offers the Heavenly Paradise to all, but not everyone wants the Salvation. All generations receive this offer, but are free to accept it or not. My children, meditate in the advice that I give you, love the Holy Trinity and you will have all you need. You will be happy for all the eternity. Get ready for the big day when God will give you a new life, you will live in His Kingdom.
The new life does not mean to born again, but to go through the purification and reach Holiness. You will have the opportunity to undergo a change that only God can do in you, is like iron passing through the fire, so the Sacred Fire of the Divine Holy Spirit will give you this change. You will be pure, all that causes evil on you will be burned and only will remain what God wants in you. Prepare yourselves, it is coming the time to improve your situation in front of God. You will no longer be slaves of the sin, ye will be free, fully of God, that ye are sanctified by Him.
This is what I come to reveal to you today for your conversion. Pray, pray, pray for the Holy Father Benedict XVI, for all the Clergy, for the religious men and women, for all mankind. Pray for the atheists and pagans, never cease to fight for them, praying always. Pray for the Holy Church founded by Jesus Christ, be faithful to God and you will lack of nothing. Trust in what Jesus Christ teaches you, learning you will be victorious. Help to the Holy Father with your prayers, he has a mission so beautiful and you must help him get to the end. The end is near, but is not the end of the world, is the end of a time. I love you much and I cover you with My Mantle of Love. Brazil, Brazil, three times you were called and you are not yet prepared to overcome the time that is approaching to you. Listen to the Voice of God and ask the Light to avoid falling into the abyss. You are called by the Force of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. For all nations have come the warnings, who values, takes care of the soul and gets ready to win. The Holy Trinity is calling constantly.
Now I bless you in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the Mother of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world,
Mary, the Immaculate Conception.
You must meditate on the Holy Gospel today: Matthew 28:16-20.
Interesting, elevating Roy Masters to the level of Christ?
for the false God of an intellectualized version of the real thing. -- Nah, that's Roy Master's version. In contrast, Christ's version as taught by Christ Himself and handed down through the Apostles, that's good for me. Not for me the I am able to actually live out my holy spirit. -- to "use up one's holy spirit" -- wow. delusions of divinity?
but anyone worth their salt will have enemies. -- don't be delusional, shamsters like Masters and his followers don't have enemies -- just people who consider them in the same basket case as the peahen that was repeatedly dropped on its head as a baby...
“it is not the exclusive property of the Church” — on that, this Catholic agrees with you. The Church, orthodoxy (Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental) is the trunk. Some branches of Protestantism branch off from orthodoxy, but are still part of Christianity. Others, like the non-trinitarian views you see here are not part of this tree of Christ...
“You can not have this biblical reality deem otherwise then there is no true Christ without His Divinity having flesh which only came through a Mother. This is why Mary is the mother of God/ Divinity whether you like it or not. “
I do not intend to be rude or offensive, but I have never debated anyone in my whole life who uses semantics as the basis of an erroneous argument more than my Catholic friends. This argument is like describing a vehicle in an accident report as a “means of transportation”. Well a jet aircraft is a means of transportation. Can we be more specific? Should a judge need to ask whether you were hit by a plane, or pickup, sedan or motorcycle? Wouldn’t it be prudent to be specific with the relevant facts?
The fact is Mary never had and never will have anything to do with God’s existence. Yet the term “mother of God” implies such when “mother of Christ” specifically and accurately describes her role in the incarnation. She was not the mother of God the Father, nor of God the Holy Spirit but of the Son of God. This phrase Catholics use and promote is false because it conveys false information by it being too broad. The Bible does not use this term for a reason. Because it is not accurate.
The humanity and deity of Christ were intertwined and inseparable from His conception, yet His deity existed before that time and had none of its origin in Mary. Mary’s entire existence came from Him. His existence never at any time depended upon her, her cooperation, willingness, righteousness, or anything else some might claim she contributed. There is simply zero support for such an abominable doctrine within the scriptures. And there is plenty to contradict such ideas.
Yet Catholic clergymen continue to promote this abominable custom with the rosary and hail Mary’s. Look at Luke 4:41. Demons were crying out that Jesus is the Son of God. Was He? Yes. But He did not allow them to speak. Look at Acts 16:16-18. The demon-possessed slave-girl followed the apostles saying, “These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.” Was this true? Yes. But similarly Paul put a stop to it by casting out the evil spirit. Today, clergymen are promoting a grotesque mockery of the Biblical doctrine of the incarnation, encouraging empty repetition of things like “mother of God” which is a twisted doctrine turned into an abominable act of idolatry- something the real Mary would be grieved deeply over.
When a person dies they are no longer bound to familial human relations. Jesus affirmed this when the Sadducees asked about whose wife would a woman be in the resurrection. Paul also affirmed this in Romans when describing the bonds of marriage. He also wrote that those who previously knew Christ “after the flesh” no longer knew Him this way. His true identity had become fully revealed beginning at the transfiguration and then when He was seen by witnesses after His resurrection. So His family, including His mother, no longer had the same family relationship with Him. This is another reason why Jesus commended His mother into the care of John the disciple. He, even before then, explained that those who hear the word of God and keep it are His brother, sister and mother.
In spite of this simple truth, Catholic clergy are constantly guilty of leading their followers astray by encouraging prayers to Mary because she supposedly has some special access and privilege of influence now toward God. Prayers should be directed to God alone and not to the dead. They may not be dead toward God, but we are separated by their physical death until the resurrection. And if God allowed them to reply to such unholy practices they would answer the same as Samuel to Saul: “why have you disturbed me to bring me up?” These clergymen infer upon Mary divine abilities of being able to intercede for millions of earth-bound believers. This is something God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are able to do because they are God. That is, they constantly intercede for believers. No such claims are so much as hinted at for Mary or anyone else in the scriptures.
Read 2 Kings 18:3-6. God instructed Moses to make the brass serpent and for the Israelites to look on it to be healed. Yet Hezekiah had to destroy it because the people had burned incense to it. It had become an idol. The passage makes it clear that he pleased the Lord with his obedience, citing this as an example. Such is the case with Catholic icons. They are supposed to represent saints and characters of the Bible. But they have been constantly and repeatedly used in idolatrous fashions including burning incense to them, praying to them, and kneeling to them. These things are not merely done in secret but openly, publicly and with rhetorical defense by clergymen who approve of these abominations.
These things greatly provoke God’s wrath who will certainly visit it on those who do not repent of the wickedness of their idolatry. Anyone here defending this evil has been duly warned. I am pleading and begging for each of you to reconsider using the most forceful language I can because of what is at stake. There is no place for idolaters in the Heavenly kingdom, only the outer darkness awaits. See Revelation 22:15.
See post #183 above.
See post #183 above.
I am really surprised that on a religion thread, that people are wading in here and making statements that the Trinity is a Catholic belief only.... That’s why I replied to Post 1, not that you said anything wrong stpio... I am just in shock that these folks would post when they are so uninformed. I tend to keep quiet on a thread if I am not of expert opinion on the topic, but good lord people. Step up yo’ game... Read...Think...Post or something like that.
Well I guess the fact that it’s in religion doesn’t matter since everyone sees it but still.
Christ = God. Mary bore God the Son. Jesus Christ is not a separation of two halves.
Of course Mary has nothing to do with Gods existence. But everything to do with the Incarnation. You dont like the title Mother of God because it is too broad. But the doctrine is clear that she is the Mother of the Son, not Father, Son and the Spirit, whatever you think it implies.
I never brought Roy to the level of Jesus...you are being deceptive there.
really? then why did you say It took a Jew to bring salvation...and it took another Joe..Roy..to uncover the simple and right way to pray in the same fashion that Jesus did. -- stop being deceptive...
I do not mean to be rude but your statement is dead wrong. This is in the Bible if you know what is being written.
" The humanity and deity of Christ were intertwined and inseparable from His conception, yet His deity existed before that time and had none of its origin in Mary. Marys entire existence came from Him. His existence never at any time depended upon her, her cooperation, willingness, righteousness, or anything else some might claim she contributed. There is simply zero support for such an abominable doctrine within the scriptures. And there is plenty to contradict such ideas."
Yikes! That would be anti-christ logic.
She did not cooperate? So he is a tyrant/ dictator and we have no choice. We can not love such a God as in love the Lord thou God and neighbor if it is forced. Love comes from free will. Hello!
Divinity put on the Flesh/Humanity from a woman because he was born from one. Hello! If not we have an Antichrist as the apostle John writes in:
1 John Chapter 4
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:..Read More[Read More]
3 and every spirit that confesseth not Jesus is not of God: and this is the spirit of the antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it cometh; and now it is in the world already...Read More[Read More]
15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God abideth in him, and he in...Read More[Read More]
2 John Chapter 1
7 For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, even they that confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist...Read More[Read More]
Revelation Chapter 3
5 He that overcometh shall thus be arrayed in white garments; and I will in no wise blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels...Read More[Read More]
FULL VERSION
1 John 4
On Denying the Incarnation
(the Incarnation, the doctrine that the second person of the Trinity assumed human form in the person of Jesus Christ and is completely both God and man.)
4 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. "
If you really do not believe the Bible time is running out.
Do you have a problem understanding plain English? Stop badgering and goading me or I WILL file an abuse report. If and when I decide to make a comment on a thread, it will be because I want to - NOT because you dare me to! Knock it off.
This is an obvious statement and also shows how righteous and high minded you are trying to be with me. I never elevated Roy to a savior...there is only one of those so quit being a liar. Thank you. Some christian you are. Mr . High and mighty is how you sound. Your type is what turn people away from true religion and faith. Shame on you!
The Catholic Church is the trunk. Protestantism is just an offshoot.
True religion is not based on some quack like Master's statements or preaching. True faith is in Christ alone, not in some quackadoodle.
Leave these false preachers like J. Smith, Masters etc...
I’m pointing out hypocrisy when I see it. This goes on record...
you mean you think that we Christians are false to say Jesus Christ is God, part of the Triune God?
Jesus Christ is/was God, only God could say and do what He did. Why do you not believe that Jesus is God?
this is gonna be rich....
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