Posted on 07/23/2012 10:07:12 PM PDT by Jandy on Genesis
The Horite caste of rulers controlled the trade routes from the Sahara to India at a time when the Sahara, Arabia and Mesopotamia were wetter. Commerce moved along the rivers which were interconnected in the late Holocene.
The Horites served as shrine and temple attendants. They interceded for others and offered sacrifice. Job offered sacrifice daily for the sins of his own family. At the end of the book, Job prays for his kinsmen Eliphaz, Zophar and Bildad. This is reminiscent of Abraham praying for Abimelech and his household (Gen. 20:17,18). Purity was an essential trait of the Horite priest.
The Horites were devotees of HR (Hor or Horus) who his mother Hathor/Mari/Isis conceived miraculously by the overshadowing of the Sun (the Creator's emblem). Horus is the archetype by which Abraham's descendants recognized Jesus as the promised Seed of the Woman (Gen. 3:15). His authentication was His rising from the dead on the third day, in accordance with Horite expectation. As St. Augustine noted, the Egyptians took great care in the burial of their dead and never practiced cremation, as in the religions that seek to escape physical existence. Abraham's ancestors believed in the resurrection of the body and awaited a deified king who would rise from the grave and deliver his people from death.
Horus, whose totem was the falcon, was known by many titles. He was called the "Son of God," "Horus of the Two Crowns," "Horus of the Two Horizons," and he was associated with the three superior planets Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Mars was named "Horus of the Horizon" or "Horus the Red." Jupiter was called "Horus Who Illuminates the Two Lands." Saturn was named "Horus, Bull of the Sky." The three superior planets were always depicted with the falcon-head of Horus (Krupp 1979).
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I think you have an incorrect paradigm into which you would like to fit what you think the Bible describes. I also think that your knowledge of the ancient world is less than perfect.
There, I was nice.
Your conclusion misses a third, and much more logical conclusion, all these closely intertwined cultures simply share stories and archetypes. They may in no way be related on the deep level you imply but these are just cultural archetypes common to the region. The Israelite people and their ancestors were one of oldest intact groups in the area. Following their history, they have been part of all the main cultures in the region. They were also a culture that prized literacy and so their stories were carried forward by all people in their culture so when a group immigrated to an area or were conquered, their stories followed them and over time, became part of that culture too.
You can see similar cultural archetypes if you look at the various cultures of ancient Europe, Asia, and the Americas. They have archetypes that carry forward across the various cultures of their region most likely due to groups intermingling in some sort of fashion, and sharing the stories.
It is fascinating to read if you read it as fiction, but can be frustrating if you have a passing knowledge of history to see many of the leaps and fabrications he makes to come to his conclusions.
So far as I understand it, Osiris was cut into 14 pieces, but the mother goddess couldn’t find the 14th piece (his willy), so she formed one and stuck it on. Horus was then conceived, which maybe the heathens consider the Resurrection of Osiris. He (Osiris) didn’t rise again, but rather was zombified and went off to dwell in the underworld. Horus, however, is never said to have died and risen again. They are also wrong about him being called “the son of God” and other things. There is no evidence for these claims, or they occur after the time of Christ. Even his birth date, which they sometimes mention, isn’t even in December. It’s in October, or November.
These are simply the inventions of heathens making claims with no historical evidence.
One other point that is missed is that the Torah/Bible describe the Horites as being a people who were driven out of the land before Abraham’s descendents arrived- not part of Abraham’s descendents.
LOL! For some reason I find this funny. As a Christian I thank you for your response, but for some strange reason your response just strikes my funny bone.
I’m not working from a paradigm. I’m viewing the Genesis material through the lens of Cultural Anthropology, lifting up details that are often overlooked. The evidence is rather conclusive that Abraham, Moses and David all had Horite blood. The marriage and ascendancy pattern of their families is identical and a distinctive Horite pattern.
Another dose of speculative mishmash.
Jandy on Genesis wrote:
“I’m not working from a paradigm. I’m viewing the Genesis material through the lens of Cultural Anthropology ...”
Do you write your own comedic material? This is just too funny.
Raising Cain, I have seen that idea of Osiris being cut into 14 pieces, but I can’t trace it to the Horites. It appears to be a Babylonian story that pertains to Nimrod who according to the legend was cut into 14 pieces. It is certainly from a Babylonian context, not Horite, and much later than Abraham.
Horus was the son of Ra, the Creator whose emblem was the Sun. Hathor-Meri (later Isis) conceived when she was overshadowed by the Sun. Her animal totem was a cow. She is shown at the Dendura Temple holding her newborn son in a manger or stable. The stable was constructed by the Horite priest Har-si-Atef. Atef was the crown worn by deified rulers. The Arabic word atef or atif means “kind.” The ruler who wore the atef crown was to embody kindness and unite the peoples.
Horite belief in a deified son who would embody kindness and unite the peoples found fulfillment in Jesus Christ, a descendant of the Horite ruler-priests, the divine son of the Virgin Mary, daughter of the priest Joachim of the line of Nathan. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the promise made to Abraham’s Horite ancestors in Eden (Gen. 3:15). This is why the Biblical scholar Frank Moore Cross cannot avoid the conclusion that the God of Israel is the God of the Horites.
Consider how Horus, the mythical archetype of Christ, describes himself in the Coffin texts (passage 148):
“I am Horus, the great Falcon upon the ramparts of the house of him of the hidden name. My flight has reached the horizon. I have passed by the gods of Nut. I have gone further than the gods of old. Even the most ancient bird could not equal my very first flight. I have removed my place beyond the powers of Set, the foe of my father Osiris. No other god could do what I have done. I have brought the ways of eternity to the twilight of the morning. I am unique in my flight. My wrath will be turned against the enemy of my father Osiris and I will put him beneath my feet in my name of ‘Red Cloak’.” (Myth and Symbol in Ancient Egypt by R.T. Rundle Clark, p. 216)
Here we find the words of Psalm 110:1, a messianic reference: The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at My right hand until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.”
That's the problem in a nutshell. The central message of Genesis is ethics, not genetics.
Genesis is a reliable record of Horite rule and the Kushite expansion out of Africa. It is more about the origins of Messianic expectation than it is about origins of humanity or ethics.
I teach Ethics on the college level and I agree that Genesis provides a unique ethical viewpoint. In fact, the binary worldview of Abraham and his ancestors pervades the whole of the Bible. The superiority of one of the entities in the universally observed binary sets prevents the Biblical worldview from slipping into the dualism that characterizes most Asian religions and philosophies.
the Bible doesn’t say anything about the Horites having castes or about them controlling the trade routes from north Africa to India. There were two or more trade routes and they didn’t necessarily pass through Canaan
“Horite belief in a deified son who would embody kindness and unite the peoples found fulfillment in Jesus Christ, a descendant of the Horite ruler-priests, the divine son of the Virgin Mary, daughter of the priest Joachim of the line of Nathan. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the promise made to Abraham’s Horite ancestors in Eden (Gen. 3:15). This is why the Biblical scholar Frank Moore Cross cannot avoid the conclusion that the God of Israel is the God of the Horites.”
I have never heard these assertions before. They do not square with the Osiris, Horus myth. I do know there are some who make an argument similar to this, but there is no basis for it. Please provide evidence.
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Cronos,
It is widely known among scholars that the Ancient World had a caste structure.
Then perhaps you could explain why the God of the Hebrews was against a caste system - especially if He was the creator of all men.
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