Posted on 06/21/2012 8:24:00 AM PDT by fishtank
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July 5, 2012.
message to Ras Robinson
Hearing God is the center point of your freedom in Christ. Do you remember when sin was dictating your thoughts and activities? All of that is in the past now for you. Now you have come to Christ and He has set you free, never to be enslaved again. Isn’t that wonderful beyond words?! Your ticket to a new life has been purchased. BEGIN AGAIN EACH MOMENT as the new being you have become. Tune your ears heavenward. I am always speaking to you. MY WAYS ARE NOT FULLY YOUR WAYS YET. NOR ARE MY WORDS FULLY FLOWING THROUGH YOU YET. But the greatness of Me in you is waiting excitedly to burst forth moment by moment. Come ride with Me on the winds of glory.
Ras, the prophet doesn’t believe in the fullness of Truth
and grace yet but He will, God is telling him this...
He will accept the most Holy Eucharist, the faith, Roman
Catholicism.
Whomever the 'he' you refer to is.
If He explicitly said the Remnant is Roman Catholic to non-Catholic Christians,
Not something one has to worry about.
Go further, which Protestant sect/denomination is Our Lord returning to say is the true faith? Non-Catholic Christians will not give an answer to this question.
I'm not Catholic, I'll answer: The true faith is those who confess/believe that Jesus Christ is the Lord. I know that is from the Bible, but it is what the Man says.
Who?
He will accept the most Holy Eucharist, the faith, Roman Catholicism.
Send me an email when he does.
I have at least provided answers to your interrogatories. You may not like the answers, but there are a couple of mine you have not even attempted to answer:
1. Was the entirety of the apostolic message preserved in Scripture alone or not?
2. Can you can explain to me why someone in a position of authority fairly early in the history of the Church such as Cyril, a BISHOP, no less, could tell his catechumens that if he were to present any teaching which could not be validated from Scripture, they were to reject it?
What I can't seem to communicate to you effectively is that scripture alone has no authority. It cannot be put on the stand and say Zwingli is right, Luther wrong on what John 6 means... or the reverse. It cannot be deposed directly on the question of Luther is correct, according to itself, on what the Sacraments are and the Church wrong.
So when you say "the authority of scripture," it necessarily always follows "scripture according to whom?"
To say that scripture alone has no authority because you can't put it on the witness or depose it directly and make it testify is really just another way of saying the command of God has no authority by itself. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition.
The authority of the Scripture is intrinsic because of it's nature as God-Breathed Revelation. The Scripture is not in need of any supplement. It's authority is not dependent upon the testimony of any witness, Church or council. "Have you not read what God said to you?"
What qualifies under this category depends entirely on what you believe is inscripturated. Is the Real Presence inscripturated? If you say no, then it is tradition; because it is deemed not inscripturated and is definitely "binding on the Christian conscience as an additional rule of faith."
Begging the question, assuming that which must be proved. It is an entirely circular argument as to what is binding on the Christian conscience as an additional rule of faith.
Cordially,
message to Ras Robinson
“Who?”
He will accept the most Holy Eucharist, the faith, Roman Catholicism.
“Send me an email when he does.”
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Ras Robinson is a Protestant (non-Catholic Christian) prophet.
Disbelieve and make fun all you want.
The anti-Christ is going to attempt to abolish the most Holy Eucharist. If the Real Presence wasn’t true why would He do that?
For a Catholic, that's quite an admission that he can be Christian and Protestant. As for his propheting skills, if the earlier post was a sample, he will have to do better than the generalities. How do I know he tested the Spirits before he claimed it was God? How do I know he didn't make it up? Those who are grounded in Scripture don't tend to believe everyone who claims the status of prophet, the bar is set pretty high.
Disbelieve and make fun all you want.
Thanks for the permission,
The anti-Christ is going to attempt to abolish the most Holy Eucharist.
Easy to say, tough to do.
If the Real Presence wasn’t true why would He do that?
I don't doubt the Real Presence in the Eucharist, I deny transubstantiation. As to why he would try and abolish it, really? He's the ANTI-Christ, from Satan, he will try and abolish alot of things, but he is neither omniscient, omnipresent nor Almighty, Christians have no need to fear him or his minions. Put on the whole armor of God and fight the wiles of the devil. He may take all you have in this life including your life, but he is already defeated. As that great Christian Martin Luther wrote: "The kingdom ours remaineth!"
Hello xone, I notice...
Mocking, juvenile one line remarks in all the threads coming from you about the faith, where does this disdain come from? Were you baptized Roman Catholic? Fallen away Catholic are terribly bitter. You can come home. The remark
about transubstantiation, you’ve said this before? What’s left, Lutherans believe a change takes place -consubstantiation-, but it isn’t possible, Lutherans have no priesthood.
“I don’t doubt the Real Presence in the Eucharist, I deny transubstantiation.”
You can’t have the Eucharist without Transubstantiation.
Another brilliant ~ “He’s the ANTI-Christ, from Satan, he will try and abolish alot of things”...
Geee, a pin-point naming it rebuttal.
Old Testament, the Gospel and present day prophecy are specific. Satan hates the Real Presence, it’s going to happen, the “abomination of desolation.” The Eucharist is true, come to believe everyone, don’t be prideful, foolish to mock and disbelieve.
Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fall: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end.
Matthew 24:15
When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.
Mark 13:14
And when you shall see the abomination of desolation, standing where it ought not: he that readeth let him understand: then let them that are in Judea, flee unto the mountains:
Daniel 11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall defile the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the continual sacrifice, and they shall place there the abomination unto desolation.
Daniel 12:11
And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days,
May 6, 2006
message to the Prayer Warriors of the most Blessed Sacrament
Given to Third Person
“To all My little ones, I your God Triune send My love and
thanks for your piety and devotion to your prayerful lives. Without
your supplications, this world would be even more diabolical than it
is at this present time.
I am the Good Shepherd. Yes, I am. But bear in mind I do not
coerce the free wills of mankind. I, as the Good Shepherd, send down
grace from on High. Then it is the responsibility of the individuals
to cooperate with this grace and, what has been provided here on earth
for souls to receive (supernatural grace) is the one, holy, Catholic
and apostolic Church. I said to the apostles “It is given to you to
know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven.” (Matt. 13: 10-11.)
The Holy Spirit (the tongues of fire) purified and perfected them in
the apostolic body (actually, My body, the Mystical Body of Christ -
the Catholic Church). So, then, the Catholic Church is the seat of
Truth (1 Tim. 3-15) and wisdom regarding the sacred mysteries and
sacraments; and the sacramental grace the souls receive at the Holy
Mass. The continual sacrifice is the sacred mystery spoken of by
Daniel the prophet (Dan. 8: 11-13).
Here is the mystery of the Eucharist. The new covenant Passover that
marks one for eternal life; when Christ the Good Shepherd lays down
His life for His flock (mystically). Calvary becomes alive at the
Mass. The priest offers the Calvary sacrifice, for it never ends. It
is continued and must be offered from sun-up to sun-down around the
world. Can you understand this sacred mystery? Absolutely not. Don’t
even try. Just know in faith that it is true. And it can only be
confected by a priest (Heb. 5: 1 & 4). Only priests of apostolic
succession can offer the continual sacrifice.
I, Christ, the Good Shepherd, am the Eternal High Priest
(Heb. 3:1). I work through the apostolic priest to feed My flock.
Those who separate themselves from the Catholic Church will be feeding
on the same food that prodigal son fed on when he left his father’s
house (Luke 15:16).
Oh, people, you must trust in the Good Shepherd. I have traced out the
right path for you to follow. All the others will lead to spiritual
failure. Please study the early Church Letters. They portray this path
I have traced out for all mankind. Do not participate in the
ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION (Matt. 24:15), helping to defeat the
continuous sacrifice offered up at the Holy Mass.
I, the Good Shepherd, have spoken.
I love all.
Jesus”
Shouldn't 'faith' be capitalized since it obviously refers to the RC version of 'the faith'? If you sense disdain, it because this contradicts what the Scriptures say regarding faith. Since faith as Christ refers to it as like a child's, juvenile is not pejorative.
Were you baptized Roman Catholic? Fallen away Catholic are terribly bitter. You can come home.
Having covered this ground before, it is obvious that listening isn't a strong suit.
The remark about transubstantiation, you’ve said this before? What’s left, Lutherans believe a change takes place -consubstantiation-, but it isn’t possible, Lutherans have no priesthood.
The presented statement is rife with error, not the least of which concerns consubstantiation. Even a cursory review would show this isn't the case, but some refuse to investigate, and continue the error of what one has been taught. Confessional Lutherans believe that the Body and Blood of Christ is truly present 'in, with and under the bread and wine', by the virtue of the power of God's Word when consecrated. God's Word provides the power and reflects what Our Lord said at the Last Supper. Lutherans aren't compelled like some to explain this process, because we have God's promise in Scripture that it occurs. The 'how' isn't important. As for priesthood, all believers in Christ are priests. 1Pet2: 4-10 from the first 'pope' no less. Complaints therefore should be forwarded to St Peter. The public ministry is responsible for seeing that the Sacrament is administered correctly.
You can’t have the Eucharist without Transubstantiation.
So spaketh the RC church. I note the lack of Scripture reference.
Geee, a pin-point naming it rebuttal.
I have no idea what this means, so it lacks persuasiveness
Old Testament, the Gospel and present day prophecy are specific. Satan hates the Real Presence, it’s going to happen, the “abomination of desolation.” The Eucharist is true, come to believe everyone, don’t be prideful, foolish to mock and disbelieve.
Yes the abomination of desolation is going to occur among the activities of the Anti-christ. Laying aside the lame present day prophecy which adds nothing, is it the RC position that the activities of the Anti-christ are outside of the purview of the will of God? Is it the view of the RC that the Anti-christ will not unwittingly and unwillingly act in accordance with God's will?
As to the present day prophecy provided: Very lame effort. Using Scripture to provide bullet points surrounding RC doctrine as if they are one and the same, or that such references support the doctrinal statements. I note the inclusion of Luke 15:16, the verse's only apparent purpose is to remind the listener that the prodigal son wanted to eat the pig's food, but wasn't allowed. What a great use of Scripture! Worse, is the use of parentheses as if Jesus can not speak authoritatively in a cogent way and has to 'nudge' just in case one doesn't 'get' the message.
continuous sacrifice offered up
Christ died once for all, Rom 6:9-11, there is no continuing sacrifice for a believer in Christ. His death was all sufficient.
I love all. Jesus”
While absolutely true, didn't the the receiver know he was talking to 'Jesus'? So the message had to be signed? No P.S.? Beyond lame, and I apologize, but lame, weak etc are the only vernacular that applies here. The attempt to pass this off as 'prophecy is an offense to real prophets. See the major prophets of the OT and tell me that this is comparable. Jonah's four word prophecy shames this multi-hundred word RC cold cut.
Then it is the responsibility of the individuals to cooperate with this grace
Of course, man's work (cooperation) must be included if God's Grace is to be realized. More piffle.
It’s not easy to reply when posts are taken apart sometimes one sentence at a time and a paragraph in response follows. It might be okay one at a time, then, wait for an answer but a list, it is daunting to come back. And another problem with a list, one sentence at a time, what the first person says gets taken out of context.
Someone at FR reminds me, we are all at different levels
of understanding. It’s true. The message from Our Lord
in 06 I shared gave me an “understanding” of the “continual sacrifice” and the “abomination of desolation.”
Here is another example to show you, a well known Catholic apologist...Scott Hahn was a Calvinist, Presbyterian, anti-Catholic minister. He passed out anti-Catholic literature! Well, Truth about the faith began to unfold, He recognized them for himself and changed in belief.
I share a link to his story, take the time and read it.
Here’s an excerpt:
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/apologetics/ap0088.html
“Then all of a sudden an episode occurred one night in a seminar I wasn’t ready for. An ex-Catholic graduate student named John raised his hand. He had just finished a presentation for the seminar on the Council of Trent. The Council of Trent, you’ll recall, was the Church’s official response to Martin Luther and the Reformation.
In about an hour and a half he had presented the Council of Trent in the most favorable light. He had shown how many of their arguments were in fact based on the Bible. Then he turned the tables on me. The students were supposed to ask him a question or two. He said, “Can I first ask you a question, Professor Hahn?
You know how Luther really had two slogans, not just sola fide, but the second slogan he used to revolt against Rome was sola Scriptura, the Bible alone. My question is, ‘Where does the Bible teach that?’”
I looked at him with a blank stare. I could feel sweat coming to my forehead. I used to take pride in asking my professors the most stumping questions, but I never heard this one before. And so I heard myself say words that I had sworn I’d never speak; I said, “John, what a dumb question.” He was not intimidated. He look at me and said, “Give me a dumb answer.” I said, “All right, I’ll try.” I just began to wing it. I said, “Well, Timothy 3:16 is the key: ‘All Scripture is inspired of God and profitable for correction, for training and righteousness, for reproof that the man of God may be completely equipped for every good work....’” He said, “Wait a second, that only says that Scripture is inspired and profitable; it doesn’t say ONLY Scripture is inspired or even better, only Scripture’s profitable for those things. We need other things like prayer,” and then he said, “What about 2 Thessalonians 2:15?” I said, “What’s that again?” He said, “Well, there Paul tells the Thessalonians that they have to hold fast, they have to cling to the traditions that Paul has taught them either in writing or by word of mouth.” Whoa! I wasn’t ready. I said, “Well, let’s move on with the questions and answers; I’ll deal with this next week. Let’s go on.”
I don’t think they realized the panic I was in. When I drove home that night, I was just staring up to the heavens asking God, why have I never heard that question? Why have I never found an answer? The next day I began calling up theologians around the country, former professors. I’d ask them, “Where does the Bible teach Sola Scriptura? Where does the Bible teach us that the Bible is our only authority?” One man actually said to me, “What a dumb question coming from you.” I said, “Give me a dumb answer then.” I was catching on.
One professor whom I greatly respect, an Oxford theologian, said to me, “Scott, you don’t expect to find the Bible proving Sola Scriptura because it isn’t something the Bible demonstrates. It is our assumption; it is our presupposition when we approach the Bible.” That struck me as odd; I said, “But professor, that seems strange because what we are saying then is that we should only believe what the Bible teaches, but the Bible doesn’t teach us to only believe what the Bible teaches. Our assumption isn’t taught by the Bible.” I said, “That feels like we’re cutting off the branch that we’re sitting on.” Then he said, “Well what other options do we have?” Good point, all right.”...
If I took something out of context please illuminate. If you would limit your counterpoints, the answers wouldn't be that long. There is too much spin in the answers to ignore. By italicizing your single points, I can respond individually.
The message from Our Lord in 06 I shared gave me an “understanding” of the “continual sacrifice” and the “abomination of desolation.”
Define them in your own words. That way understanding can be equal. Both know how we ourselves define them, now I will know what you mean by them. The 06 message was interesting as I said, and people do have different levels of understanding, some refuse to accept 'messages from our lord' as genuine just because some one says they are from God or 'Jesus' in the case provided.
Nice story in the excerpt. Another example of man asking what 'authority' Scripture has, as in 'who told you that it has authority?' If one accepts the Bible as God's Word it has God's authority intrinsically.
In #428 I asked two questions: is it the RC position that the activities of the Anti-christ are outside of the purview of the will of God? Is it the view of the RC that the Anti-christ will not unwittingly and unwillingly act in accordance with God's will?
I've bolded them so you can see. BTW, when responding to a post, you can skip the italicized parts, that is your writing, I include it for the purpose of showing to what I am responding.
To reply to your protests, it works, one at time xone.
The “abomination of desolation” takes place when the anti-Christ and his evil ones change the words of consecration, his attempt to abolish the Holy Eucharist. Watch, Satan will change the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the “continual sacrifice.”
Fancy use of words but you’ve “illuminated” zip. This amounts to your “counterpoint”...objection...
“he *anti-Christ* will try to abolish a lot of things”
and...
“Yes, the Abomination of Desolation is going to occur among
the activities of the anti-Christ.”
Very in depth, if one objects to the Catholic meaning, which prophecy makes explicit, please tell me and everyone reading this thread, state the meaning of the “Abomination of Desolation?” It would help, start with, they are spoken of together, what is the “continual sacrifice?”
“NICE story in the excerpt. Another example of man asking what ‘authority’ Scripture has, as in ‘who told you that IT has authority?’ If one accepts the Bible as God’s Word IT has God’s authority intrinsically.”
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Scott Hahn, a former seminary professor, Presbyterian minister could not find Martin Luther’s Sola Scriptura the “Bible Alone” in Scripture.
It’s more than a “nice” story, it should wake you up.
More error, explain, what or who is “it?” The Bible doesn’t interpret itself, how can it be it’s own authority? “Bible Alone” cannot be found in Scripture, reason, Martin Luther came up with his heresy in 1517.
Luther wants you to reject the authority that gave you your Bible. Think how nonsensical that is xone.
“In #428 I asked two questions: is it the RC position that the activities of the Anti-christ are outside of the purview of the will of God? Is it the view of the RC that the Anti-christ will not unwittingly and unwillingly act in accordance with God’s will?”
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Is this a trick question from a Calvinist (humor)? It sounds Calvinist. Refresh my memory, do not hide, profess your denomination. Were you baptized Roman Catholic? It’s a fair question because of your obvious dislike of everything Catholic.
State it, what are you afraid of and I am wondering...who in the world would say...I believe in the Eucharist but not in transubstantiation? And I best not but I will...
I am not going to reply to your question above UNTIL you share with everyone the meaning of the “abomination of desolation”
Remember, taking your protests one at a time.
"The devil and wicked men are so held in on every side with the hand of God, that they cannot conceive, or contrive, or execute any mischief, any farther than God himself doth not permit only, but command. Nor are they only held in fetters, but compelled also, as with a bridle, to perform obedience to those commands."Zwingli said, in an essay on divine providence he wrote for the ill-fated meeting with Luther at Marburg,
"...when God makes angels or men sin, he does not sin himself, because he does not break any law. For God is under no law, and therefore cannot sin."
“Christ died once for all, Rom 6:9-11, there is no continuing sacrifice for a believer in Christ. His death was all sufficient.”
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Hi, trying to help non-Catholics understand the Holy Mass, the Remnant is Roman Catholic...the more we talk about the Mass, the more you will come to see. Jesus wants us all to believe the same. Trust, He can make it happen.
Protestants believe Jesus is the “eternal high priest” and
that Jesus is the “Lamb of God”...so...
“While the OT sacrifices were insufficient, Jesus, the Unblemished LAMB, became the perfect, efficacious and eternal Sacrifice which atoned for all the sins of humanity. He did this once, for all, 2000 years ago on Calvary.
He has no need, as did the high priests, to offer sacrifice day after day, first for his own sins and then for those of the people; he did that once for all when he offered himself.-Hebrews 7:27
Catholics are NOT RE-SACRIFICING Christ again, but are participating in the once for all sacrifice. “At Mass, we do not sacrifice Christ over and over again. That is ridiculous. Rather, the Mass is a participation in the once for all sacrifice of Christ. It is NOT a REPRESENTATION of Christ’s once for all sacrifice, but a re-presentation. Each time we go to Mass, we become part of that once for all sacrifice with all eternity! That’s powerful! The Catechism of the Catholic Church, number 1368, says this,
“Christ’s sacrifice present on the altar makes it possible for all generations of Christians to be united with his offering.” (source here)
In other words, there is, so to speak, a “time warp” going on at each and every Mass. We are “transported” to the foot of Calvary in order to participate in the “once for all” eternal sacrifice of our Savior. How magnificent a gift is it that we are given the privilege to participate in the only event that that ever really mattered!! In the Eucharist the Church is as it were at the foot of the cross with Mary, united with the offering and intercession of Christ. Catechism-1370.
Apologist Jimmy Akin does not espouse this “time warp” metaphor, but nevertheless presents it in this article as a viable way for Catholics to understand how the Mass can be a sacrifice.
Finally, “Protestants have no qualms accepting the perfect and efficacious nature of Christ’s sacrifice, but invite them to consider its eternal aspect. Jesus is eternally a priest, and a priest’s very nature is to offer sacrifice. In the case of Christ, the eternal sacrifice that he offers is himself. This is why he appears in the book of Revelation as a LAMB, standing as though he had been slain (Rev. 5:6). He appears in heaven in the state of a victim not because he still needs to suffer but because for all eternity he re-presents himself to God appealing to the work of the cross, interceding for us (Rom 8:34), and bringing the graces of Calvary to us.
The Mass is a participation in this ONE heavenly offering. The risen Christ becomes present on the altar and offers himself to God as a living sacrifice. Like the Mass, Christ words at the Last Supper are words of sacrifice, “This is my body . . . this is my blood . . . given up for you.” So, the Mass is not repeating the murder of Jesus, but is taking part in what never ends: the offering of Christ to the Father for our sake (Heb 7:25, 9:24).
After all, if Calvary didn’t get the job done, then the Mass won’t help. It is precisely because the death of Christ was sufficient that the Mass is celebrated. It does not add to or take away from the work of Christ—it is the work of Christ.”
Remember, as John Calvin:
“The devil and wicked men are so held in on every side with the hand of God, that they cannot conceive, or contrive, or execute any mischief, any farther than God himself doth not permit only, but command. Nor are they only held in fetters, but compelled also, as with a bridle, to perform obedience to those commands.”
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Hello, wow,
Thanks so much for the quotes. The above is absolutely false. I don’t know how to say it best but the fact is God did not create robots. We are not robots.
Who would ever wish this...? God doesn’t. He wants you
to freely love, to freely choose for Him. That’s how He
set the plan up for His beloved humanity.
God gave us HIS Word, not the RC's word. The RC church preserved it, but it isn't theirs. The human writers were inspired by the Holy Spirit to write what they did. So even when claiming the Apostles as Catholics, it IS and remains God's Word. It is by God's authority that we have it. If God could raise children of Abraham from stones, He could and would have raised up a preserver of His Word in the same way had the Catholic church never existed.
Scott Hahn, a former seminary professor, Presbyterian minister could not find Martin Luther’s Sola Scriptura the “Bible Alone” in Scripture.
I doubt that Mr Hahn is a better authority on Scripture than Martin Luther former Catholic. I don't find his failing persuasive.
The Bible doesn’t interpret itself, how can it be it’s own authority?
Surely not in the Catholic church.
Think how nonsensical that is xone.
For one who claims human authorship ans inspiration of the Bible, it is unmitigated gall to claim anything is nonsensical.
None of your provided verses were explicit at all that the abomination of desolation refer to the Antichrist and his minions changing the words of consecration. This is projected as fact, when it isn't. The most common explanation of the phrase refers to the erection of an idol to be worshipped in place of God in a rebuilt Jewish temple, the image of the Beast.
It would help, start with, they are spoken of together, what is the “continual sacrifice?”
That is a Catholic construct if you are Catholic, the image of the beast to be worshipped is the biblical meaning. That the Eucharist will be abolished or changed at that time to fit the needs of the beast worship in undoubted, but since they currently refer to God's sacrifice. But unless you are intimately involved in the development of the new beast worship liturgy, all else is conjecture.
Hardly a 'trick' question, I don't use them. If it sounds Calvinist, good for Calvin.
Refresh my memory, do not hide, profess your denomination.
I neither hide nor desire to refresh a memory so faulty. What I 'am' is evident in my posts. For those too lazy to look, I have no sympathy.
Were you baptized Roman Catholic?
Talk about memory refrshment! LOL. Do your own work.
State it, what are you afraid of and I am wondering...who in the world would say...I believe in the Eucharist but not in transubstantiation? And I best not but I will...
Who indeed! Anyone who believes in the Real Presence in the sacrament without all the hocus pocus associated trying to explain a work of God.
It’s a fair question because of your obvious dislike of everything Catholic.
I don't dislike everything Catholic, just the newer obnoxious things. Also dislike new age prophecy for profit being posted as if it had significance.
I see, it is a matter of a hyphen. A homograph with a hyphen.
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