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To: xone

Hello xone, I notice...

Mocking, juvenile one line remarks in all the threads coming from you about the faith, where does this disdain come from? Were you baptized Roman Catholic? Fallen away Catholic are terribly bitter. You can come home. The remark
about transubstantiation, you’ve said this before? What’s left, Lutherans believe a change takes place -consubstantiation-, but it isn’t possible, Lutherans have no priesthood.

“I don’t doubt the Real Presence in the Eucharist, I deny transubstantiation.”

You can’t have the Eucharist without Transubstantiation.

Another brilliant ~ “He’s the ANTI-Christ, from Satan, he will try and abolish alot of things”...

Geee, a pin-point naming it rebuttal.

Old Testament, the Gospel and present day prophecy are specific. Satan hates the Real Presence, it’s going to happen, the “abomination of desolation.” The Eucharist is true, come to believe everyone, don’t be prideful, foolish to mock and disbelieve.

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fall: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end.

Matthew 24:15
When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.

Mark 13:14
And when you shall see the abomination of desolation, standing where it ought not: he that readeth let him understand: then let them that are in Judea, flee unto the mountains:

Daniel 11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall defile the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the continual sacrifice, and they shall place there the abomination unto desolation.

Daniel 12:11
And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days,

May 6, 2006

message to the Prayer Warriors of the most Blessed Sacrament

Given to Third Person

“To all My little ones, I your God Triune send My love and
thanks for your piety and devotion to your prayerful lives. Without
your supplications, this world would be even more diabolical than it
is at this present time.

I am the Good Shepherd. Yes, I am. But bear in mind I do not
coerce the free wills of mankind. I, as the Good Shepherd, send down
grace from on High. Then it is the responsibility of the individuals
to cooperate with this grace and, what has been provided here on earth
for souls to receive (supernatural grace) is the one, holy, Catholic
and apostolic Church. I said to the apostles “It is given to you to
know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven.” (Matt. 13: 10-11.)

The Holy Spirit (the tongues of fire) purified and perfected them in
the apostolic body (actually, My body, the Mystical Body of Christ -
the Catholic Church). So, then, the Catholic Church is the seat of
Truth (1 Tim. 3-15) and wisdom regarding the sacred mysteries and
sacraments; and the sacramental grace the souls receive at the Holy
Mass. The continual sacrifice is the sacred mystery spoken of by
Daniel the prophet (Dan. 8: 11-13).

Here is the mystery of the Eucharist. The new covenant Passover that
marks one for eternal life; when Christ the Good Shepherd lays down
His life for His flock (mystically). Calvary becomes alive at the
Mass. The priest offers the Calvary sacrifice, for it never ends. It
is continued and must be offered from sun-up to sun-down around the
world. Can you understand this sacred mystery? Absolutely not. Don’t
even try. Just know in faith that it is true. And it can only be
confected by a priest (Heb. 5: 1 & 4). Only priests of apostolic
succession can offer the continual sacrifice.

I, Christ, the Good Shepherd, am the Eternal High Priest
(Heb. 3:1). I work through the apostolic priest to feed My flock.
Those who separate themselves from the Catholic Church will be feeding
on the same food that prodigal son fed on when he left his father’s
house (Luke 15:16).

Oh, people, you must trust in the Good Shepherd. I have traced out the
right path for you to follow. All the others will lead to spiritual
failure. Please study the early Church Letters. They portray this path
I have traced out for all mankind. Do not participate in the
ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION (Matt. 24:15), helping to defeat the
continuous sacrifice offered up at the Holy Mass.

I, the Good Shepherd, have spoken.
I love all.

Jesus”


427 posted on 07/07/2012 1:01:23 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
Mocking, juvenile one line remarks in all the threads coming from you about the faith, where does this disdain come from?

Shouldn't 'faith' be capitalized since it obviously refers to the RC version of 'the faith'? If you sense disdain, it because this contradicts what the Scriptures say regarding faith. Since faith as Christ refers to it as like a child's, juvenile is not pejorative.

Were you baptized Roman Catholic? Fallen away Catholic are terribly bitter. You can come home.

Having covered this ground before, it is obvious that listening isn't a strong suit.

The remark about transubstantiation, you’ve said this before? What’s left, Lutherans believe a change takes place -consubstantiation-, but it isn’t possible, Lutherans have no priesthood.

The presented statement is rife with error, not the least of which concerns consubstantiation. Even a cursory review would show this isn't the case, but some refuse to investigate, and continue the error of what one has been taught. Confessional Lutherans believe that the Body and Blood of Christ is truly present 'in, with and under the bread and wine', by the virtue of the power of God's Word when consecrated. God's Word provides the power and reflects what Our Lord said at the Last Supper. Lutherans aren't compelled like some to explain this process, because we have God's promise in Scripture that it occurs. The 'how' isn't important. As for priesthood, all believers in Christ are priests. 1Pet2: 4-10 from the first 'pope' no less. Complaints therefore should be forwarded to St Peter. The public ministry is responsible for seeing that the Sacrament is administered correctly.

You can’t have the Eucharist without Transubstantiation.

So spaketh the RC church. I note the lack of Scripture reference.

Geee, a pin-point naming it rebuttal.

I have no idea what this means, so it lacks persuasiveness

Old Testament, the Gospel and present day prophecy are specific. Satan hates the Real Presence, it’s going to happen, the “abomination of desolation.” The Eucharist is true, come to believe everyone, don’t be prideful, foolish to mock and disbelieve.

Yes the abomination of desolation is going to occur among the activities of the Anti-christ. Laying aside the lame present day prophecy which adds nothing, is it the RC position that the activities of the Anti-christ are outside of the purview of the will of God? Is it the view of the RC that the Anti-christ will not unwittingly and unwillingly act in accordance with God's will?

As to the present day prophecy provided: Very lame effort. Using Scripture to provide bullet points surrounding RC doctrine as if they are one and the same, or that such references support the doctrinal statements. I note the inclusion of Luke 15:16, the verse's only apparent purpose is to remind the listener that the prodigal son wanted to eat the pig's food, but wasn't allowed. What a great use of Scripture! Worse, is the use of parentheses as if Jesus can not speak authoritatively in a cogent way and has to 'nudge' just in case one doesn't 'get' the message.

continuous sacrifice offered up

Christ died once for all, Rom 6:9-11, there is no continuing sacrifice for a believer in Christ. His death was all sufficient.

I love all. Jesus”

While absolutely true, didn't the the receiver know he was talking to 'Jesus'? So the message had to be signed? No P.S.? Beyond lame, and I apologize, but lame, weak etc are the only vernacular that applies here. The attempt to pass this off as 'prophecy is an offense to real prophets. See the major prophets of the OT and tell me that this is comparable. Jonah's four word prophecy shames this multi-hundred word RC cold cut.

Then it is the responsibility of the individuals to cooperate with this grace

Of course, man's work (cooperation) must be included if God's Grace is to be realized. More piffle.

428 posted on 07/08/2012 12:51:56 PM PDT by xone
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