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Life after life? This Wyoming surgeon says she believes
Sarah Hinze ^ | May 22, 2012 | Sarah Hinze

Posted on 06/02/2012 2:25:23 PM PDT by NYer

Mary C. Neal, a Wyoming surgeon, has a more spiritual view of life after a near-death experience following an accident while kayaking in 1999. (Family photo, Credit)

Mary C. Neal, a Wyoming surgeon, has a more spiritual view of life after a near-death experience following an accident while kayaking in 1999. (Family photo, Credit)

JACKSON, WYO. — The way Mary C. Neal sees it, she has essentially lived two different lives: one before her “accident,” as she describes it, and one after.

“I would say that I have been profoundly changed in all aspects of my life,” said Neal, a respected orthopedic spinal surgeon in western Wyoming. “The details of my life, before and after, are similar. But the essence of my life — who I am, what I value, what drives me — is completely different.”

Which isn’t an unusual thing, especially when you consider that her “accident” included death by drowning, an all-too-brief visit with spiritual beings in the life after death, and a remarkable resuscitation after 14 minutes under water, bringing her back to life whole and complete.

But forever changed.

Mary C. Neal (Family photo, Credit) Mary C. Neal (Family photo, Credit)

“Since then I’ve spoken to others who have had similar experiences,” she said during a recent telephone interview from her home in Jackson, Wyo. “Everyone comes back a profoundly changed person.”

She pauses, then adds softly: “I know I did.” Which is not to say that her life before her accident was in tremendous need of change.

“I think I was pretty typical,” she said as she outlined a life that included faithful church attendance as a child and “some spiritual experiences during my high school and college years.”

“I should have been more committed to my Christian faith,” she said, reflecting on adult years that were largely consumed by her work as a surgeon. “I was very busy, and like most people I experienced life on a daily basis. The details of my daily responsibilities sort of crowded out my responsibilities to my spiritual self.”

 (Family photo, Credit) (Family photo, Credit)

She was a believer, a person who believed in God and in the inspired words of the Bible. “But other than just trying to be a good person,” she said, “I don’t think I was particularly religious.”

That all changed in January 1999, when she and her husband, Bill, traveled to Chile for what was intended to be a fun, restful kayaking adventure with friends in the rivers and lakes of Chile’s southern Lake District.

As she explains in her new book, “To Heaven and Back: The True Story of a Doctor’s Extraordinary Walk With God,” she was going over a waterfall on their last day of boating on the Fuy River when her kayak became pinned in the rocks, trapping her under the deep surging water.

Despite her best efforts to free herself from the boat, she “quickly realized that I was not in control of my future.”

At this realization, she says she reached out to God and asked for his divine intervention.

“At the very moment I turned to him,” she writes, “I was overcome with an absolute feeling of calm, peace, and of the very physical sensation of being held in someone’s arms while being stroked and comforted. I felt like I imagine a baby must feel when being lovingly caressed and rocked in his mother’s bosom. I also experienced an absolute certainty that everything would be OK, regardless of the outcome.”

Although she felt “God was present and holding me,” she was still very much aware of her predicament. She could not see or hear anything, but she could feel the pressure of the current pushing and pulling her body.

“It sounds rather morbid, but from an orthopedist’s perspective I was intrigued as I felt my knee bones break and my ligaments tear,” she said. “I tried to analyze the sensations and consider which structures were likely involved. I seemed to feel no pain, but wondered if I was actually screaming without knowing it. I actually did a quick self-assessment and decided that no, I was not screaming. I felt curiously blissful, which is remarkable because I had always been terrified of drowning.”

As her body was slowly being sucked out of her kayak, she says she felt “as though my soul was slowly peeling itself away from my body.”

“I felt a pop and it was as if I had finally shaken off my heavy outer layer, freeing my soul,” she wrote. “I rose up and out of the river, and when my soul broke through the surface of the water I encountered a group of 15 or 20 souls who greeted me with the most overwhelming joy I have ever experienced and could ever imagine.”

She describes the feeling she felt at the moment as “joy at an unadulterated core level.” Although she could not identify these souls by name, she felt that she knew them well, “and knew that I had known them for an eternity.”

According to her published account, these souls “appeared as formed shapes, but not with the absolute and distinct edges of the formed physical bodies we have on Earth. Their edges were blurred, as each spiritual being was dazzling and radiant. Their presence engulfed all of my senses, as though I could see, hear, feel, smell and taste them all at once. ”

While she says she was aware of the anxious efforts to revive her physical body, she felt herself being drawn with her new companions down a path that led to a “great and brilliant hall, larger and more beautiful than anything I can conceive of seeing on Earth.” She sensed that this was “the gate through which each human must pass” to “review our lives and our choices” and to “choose God or turn away.”

“I felt ready to enter the hall and was filled with an intense longing to be reunited with God,” she writes.

But her companions explained that it was not her time to enter — that she still had work to do on Earth.

“I was not happy about coming back — to be honest, I fought it a little,” she said during the interview, chuckling at the memory. But eventually her companions convinced her to return to her body and to begin the long process of recovering from her physical injuries and completing the work she knows she was sent back to complete.

Today, more than 13 years later, she is fully recovered — she didn’t suffer any brain injury despite being under water for 14 minutes — and dealing with the ups and downs of life, including the tragic death of her son, Willie, a bright and promising Olympic skiing hopeful, in 1999.

But she is dealing with life differently than she did prior to her kayaking accident.

“How I view life, every moment of every day, has changed,” she said. “How I view myself and others has profoundly changed. How I do my work as a physician has changed. I think I’m a better doctor now, in that I try to treat the whole person, not just the injury. Physical challenges can be opportunities for growth — I think that’s a valuable perspective to maintain. I wouldn’t have been able to do that before.”

And so she continues her life with new perspective. She says she now finds it much easier to balance her work with service to her family, her church and her community. She has served as an elder in her Presbyterian congregation, on the board of directors of several nonprofit organizations and helped to found the Willie Neal Environmental Awareness Fund.

And, oh yes, she still finds time for kayaking.

“Based on my experience, I know that God has a plan for me and for everyone,” she said. “Our job is to listen and try to hear what God is saying to us as he tells us what he needs us to do. The real challenge for us is to give up control and be obedient to what God is asking of us.”

If we can figure out how to do that, she says, we will be ready when the time finally comes for us to enter that “great and brilliant hall” she encountered during her brief foray into life after death.

“I look forward to the day that I get to go back,” she says now, almost wistfully. “That’s our real home.”


TOPICS: Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: faithandphilosophy; nde; ndes; neardeathexperience; reincarnation
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks for your testimony.


41 posted on 06/02/2012 8:11:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Great quote by C. S. Lewis.

Indeed. A real piece of wisdom there.

42 posted on 06/02/2012 8:11:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: garjog
NDEs are NOT about trincarnation.

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43 posted on 06/02/2012 8:15:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
I am a Christian. I have been since childhood. The amazing part for me is that when it came to the nut cut... I was ok with going home. My faith was real. You never know until you come under fire.

On the other hand... I'm not someone you would introduce to your children/grandchildren as the paragon of good behavior. ;)

I'm more the proof of salvation by grace.

/johnny

44 posted on 06/02/2012 8:16:47 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Salvation

Oops. I’m going to have to get a new keyboard. The letters have worn off the E, T, R

reincarnation.


45 posted on 06/02/2012 8:19:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sonrise57

Wow. Beautiful. Thank you for what you do, and, I have a feeling you are pretty good at your job.

I just found it on Audible and downloaded it.


46 posted on 06/02/2012 8:20:23 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: NYer

Excellent post, a wonderful story to tell.


47 posted on 06/02/2012 8:20:39 PM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Salvation

“NDEs are NOT about reincarnation.”

Great links. I will take a look at these.

I really liked Dinesh D’Souza book Life After Death: The Evidence.

My question concerns the website of the author of this story. She seems to be promoting false doctrine from my perspective.


48 posted on 06/02/2012 8:21:09 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Hulka

While I cannot cite an online reference, I do recall some of the earliest studies of the NDE stuff did indicate that the experience, though not universal in its occurrence, but it was universal throughout just about all religions and cultures.


49 posted on 06/02/2012 8:26:03 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: NYer

The 19th centurians believed as fervently as we do in NDE that they could communicate with the dead. We in the 21st believe in the near death experiences, which have managed to become legitimate enough to earn an acronym. If it’s got an acronym it must be true. Tunnels of light, and few details beyond that. Gimme some details. Is it as boring there as it sounds? Why haven’t the dead communicated back to us? Did they communicate to Jesus? This skeptic’s view is let’s first find an explanation for the human (and animals’) dreams. One of these days perhaps we’ll understand it all, and I’m not saying that science will help us because science is as blind as we all are, but these days aren’t here yet.

Above is not a flame, just another question.


50 posted on 06/02/2012 8:29:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: garjog

Not to start an argument, but the original Jewish and Chritian theology include references to reincarnation. It’s not as scary or outrageous as you’ve been lead to believe.

The problem with religions that are designed by men is that it quickly becomes politicized.

I am not trying to dismiss your views or start a fight. It’s just that any religion based on the words of books written many decades after things happened has to be looked at with skeptical eyes.


51 posted on 06/02/2012 8:31:27 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: Dan(9698)

Angels are not human. You do not die and become an angel. No more than a duck dies and becomes a robin.

The battles in heaven were between the arch angels, (mike and his crew) and Satan’s gang.

We are just different species...so to speak.


52 posted on 06/02/2012 8:35:47 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: garjog

Read “Evidence of the Afterlife” by Dr. Jeffrey Long. Great website. After every NDE story he provides his explanation and view.

I was reading it for a book club, so in order to finish it, I stopped reading his remarks, but he is very believable and understandable.


53 posted on 06/02/2012 8:38:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: garjog
Evidence of the Afterlife: The Science of Near-Death Experiences

54 posted on 06/02/2012 8:45:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Revolting cat!

If you do some searches you will find some medical documentation that the tunnel is nothing more than your optic nerves shutting down, from outside to inside—creating an illusion of a tunnel. The great feeling is nothing more than endorphins.

The documentation describes a pretty consistent experience across the board. That is what is interesting.

And, if it is really as great there as folks say, why would you want to come back and talk to us?

And if Jesus was God, then wouldn’t it be the same as the “light?”

You can really drive yourself nuts trying to reconcile our “religion”—created by men, with a physical and spiritual experience created by our creator.

That is where faith comes in. I think it will be OK. But, it is the one question we all have to answer on our own.


55 posted on 06/02/2012 8:46:14 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: Vermont Lt
We are just different species...so to speak.

Where did you hear that?

We were create in the image of God.

That means we are the children of God just like he said.

We are the same species.

There are other scriptural references to pre-mortal life.

56 posted on 06/02/2012 8:59:34 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: alstewartfan
I was in shock, and extremely grateful to her, and God.

Awsome story. YHWH is good to us.

57 posted on 06/02/2012 9:03:46 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Dan(9698)

Where in any biblical work does it say we are angels? Or that angels are what we become.

We are created in God’s image. No argument there. If we are different from angels, then they are evidently not made on God’s image.

Your original question was about the battles in heaven beteen the Angels and Satan’s folks. I am not really debating the existence of our souls before our earthly existence.


58 posted on 06/02/2012 9:05:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: rlmorel
Here's a good place to start your journey:

Gary Habermas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skGf_vsthl8&feature=related

59 posted on 06/02/2012 9:10:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Dan(9698); Vermont Lt
[Vermont Lt:] We are just different species...so to speak.

We are the same species.

I will rise in agreement with Vermont Lt. The Fallen Ones (fallen angels) came here and laid with the daughters of men, and that union produced giants (Nephilim, Titans). If we were the same species, such an offspring would be unlikely.

60 posted on 06/02/2012 9:13:03 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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