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Essays for Lent/Easter: Women's Ordination
StayCatholic.com ^ | 2004 | Sebastian R. Fama

Posted on 04/16/2012 9:21:41 PM PDT by Salvation

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1 posted on 04/16/2012 9:21:53 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
Do you mean "now bowed" or "NOT bowed" ?

Cheers!

3 posted on 04/16/2012 9:31:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Salvation

I know you meant “not” ! LOL!!


4 posted on 04/16/2012 9:44:19 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Yikes!

NOT bowed


5 posted on 04/16/2012 9:46:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...
 "I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful"
~John Paul II
I am so thankful that the Catholic Church has not bowed to the modern world on this issue. Follow the Bible, folks!

Catholic Ping!


6 posted on 04/16/2012 9:53:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I am conflicted on this.

The Church says no, but many of the holiest and strongest Catholics I know are women. Should they be denied the chance to serve the Lord as His voice?
Simplest case, take a look right here on FR. Catholic or Protestant both, the mightiest warriors for the Lord are women - and I am profoundly grateful!

I know it is the rules, but it is one I am not fond of. Accept it, of course, but really don’t like it in this case.

I know - obedience is a virtue - but I can still grumble about wasted talent.


7 posted on 04/16/2012 10:18:46 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: EnglishCon

There are many ways to serve the Church. One does not have to be a priest to be a great leader in faith. The most prominent American Catholic leader in the last fifty years has been Mother Angelica of EWTN.


8 posted on 04/16/2012 10:34:32 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

True.

I just see women every day who are worthy of the title of Father (Mother?).
Sisters who are far more devout and qualified than some of the Priests I know.

His Holiness stated that women cannot be priests. I accept that - but I don’t have to like it. No one said obedience would be easy!


9 posted on 04/16/2012 10:42:59 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: EnglishCon
The Greatest Saints of note were Women. Most had more profound insight into God than men.

St Hildergard, St Catherine, And look at Saint Faustina. We say this Divine Mercy Chaplet because of her Visions. I have had more Profound Presence of the Lord since these prayers. I had Dream Visions that came true since these prayers. Also these Prayers are for the Last days as the Lord to St. Faustina. So we are living in the true last days.

Women are very influential and anointed. I think some of the most profound writings are from women. I have read some. Just Amazing!

I do not think they should become priests. You might ruin all this great wisdom. LOL!

Cheers!

10 posted on 04/16/2012 10:45:31 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: EnglishCon

http://www.catholic.org/saints/female.php


11 posted on 04/16/2012 10:46:11 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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Post 10

"Also these Prayers are for the Last days as the Lord to St. Faustina."

Correction!

"Also these Prayers are for the Last days as the Lord told St. Faustina."

Eternal Father, I offer You the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world.

Read more: http://www.ewtn.com/devotionals/mercy/dmmap.htm#ixzz1sH3oMlvF

Praise Jesus!

12 posted on 04/16/2012 10:56:30 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: EnglishCon

1 Timothy 2:14 “And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”

There is your reason right there, no matter how “holy” a woman may appear she is far easier to deceive and lead astray than a man is and she is also far more likely to rationalize her sinful desires like Eve did in the garden of Eden (in modern terms they call it the rationalization hamster which is a pretty apt description). So please stop putting women on a pedestal as they don’t really deserve to be placed there and it usually only makes it easier for them to kick you in the teeth as you’re bowing down to worship them ;)


13 posted on 04/16/2012 11:00:19 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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True, FRiend! Both of my birthday saints are women, and we have a chat from time to time. Not as often as I should, perhaps, but when I remember we do talk.

Without the Blessed Madonna I would be apostate, yet she heard my plea. (For any non Catholics reading, yes, I know my prayer was to God Himself, but I had sinned greatly and it was slightly easier to ask for her intercession. I was not worthy to talk to Him.)

Just grumbling a little bit - every soldiers privilege. The order is in writing, so yes, I must accept it.


14 posted on 04/16/2012 11:01:32 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Salvation

What a difference a letter makes.


15 posted on 04/16/2012 11:18:03 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This place is nuts.)
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To: Salvation

“Follow the Bible, folks!”

Yes, but whenever I mention Corinthians 14:34 and 14:35, I get a lot of “I just found something nasty in my Cheerios” looks.


16 posted on 04/17/2012 12:31:52 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: EnglishCon

“I can still grumble about wasted talent.”

In addition to the fact that the Church cannot ordain women, there are other reasons that women should not be priests. Good and sufficient reasons.


17 posted on 04/17/2012 1:08:25 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

His Holiness said so - that has to be sufficient reason for me.

I am grumbling like you wouldn’t believe here. Understanding, teaching and discussing God’s will does not, to me, seem to require testicles.

I’d appreciate the additional reasons, if you have a moment. Help a brother out here please!


18 posted on 04/17/2012 2:58:10 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Salvation

I am so thankful that the Catholic Church has not bowed to the modern world on this issue.

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I second that.


19 posted on 04/17/2012 5:36:51 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: EnglishCon

“Should they be denied the chance to serve the Lord as His voice?”

No one is denied the chance to serve the Lord and be His voice. Women are in no way denied this. Mary was not denied this and is the first leader member of the Body of Christ.

What women are denied is earthly recognition of the role of husband which we see as a status position. So it’s true the Church denies a position which confers earthly status to women but heavenly status has not been effected.


20 posted on 04/17/2012 8:03:22 AM PDT by Varda
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