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Where is Jesus after he Dies?
Archdiocese of Washington ^
| April 6, 2012
| Msgr. Charles Pope
Posted on 04/07/2012 3:40:18 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer
He descended into hell. Victorious. With the keys of life and death and hell. To prove to those there He had the power, that death was not victorious over Him, and to take those in Abraham’s bosom - up to Heaven with Him.
On the third day, He arose again, in fulfillment of the Scriptures.
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posted on
04/07/2012 5:52:25 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: boop
The “Paradise” was not heaven. It was a waiting place, sort of a limbo, where the good souls were waiting.
Many people make this error, so don’t feel bad.
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posted on
04/07/2012 5:53:51 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: count-your-change
Are you trying to tell Catholics what to believe?
Are you trying to say that the Bible is not true?
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posted on
04/07/2012 5:55:25 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: tumblindice
***...to save those who had the bad luck to die before He did.***
Here is your error. Jesus went to Hades to deliver up the righteous dead, not the unsaved dead.
To: boop
Move the comma from, “Truly I say, today you will be with me in paradise,” to “Truly I say today, you will be with me in paradise.” Makes a big difference.
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:12:13 PM PDT
by
Hootowl
To: NYer
Where is Jesus after he Dies?
Possibly preaching to the spirits in captivity (I Peter 4:6)? His soul was in hell, but it wasn't left there (Acts 2:30).
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:14:24 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: NYer
to free the just who had gone before him.
If God has always been, why would He have permitted the "just" to go to hell and suffer?
To: Talisker
The hope Jesus spoke of was the resurrection from the memorial tombs (John 5:28,29), that which Paul called the resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous. (Acts 24:15)
“Even regular folks don't lay dead in a grave.”
Says who? Not the Scriptures since if the regular (righteous and unrighteous) folks weren't dead they wouldn't need to be resurrected from death.
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:14:48 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: Salvation
Catholics will believe as they will, I was pointing out the Bible says which often conflicts Catholic teachings.
Is this one of your “gotcha” questions?
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:21:44 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: the invisib1e hand
Im given to pondering what the disciples were thinking during these Three Days.Pete was wondering about catching fish.
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:25:48 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: count-your-change
In the grave, dead. according to Matt.16:21 he wasnt resurrected until the third day Are we SURE?
No one NOTICED that He was out of the grave until the third day.
Remember what He told the repentant thief?
TODAY you shall be with Me in paradise."
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:27:53 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: count-your-change
Catholics will believe as they will, I was pointing out the Bible says which often conflicts Catholic teachings.A. generally what has been passed down to us from the Apostles. B. Can you please prove this? Just one example should suffice.
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:28:33 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
To: Revolting cat!
“What do the Mormons say about it?”
i’m sure if you asked one of their missionaries they would be glad to discuss it with you. [non-sarc]
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:31:16 PM PDT
by
IWONDR
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
My error? I don’t care to hear from the Book of Ruy Dias de Bivar, but thanks anyway.
“Give us a Book, chapter and verse, will you?”
Here, I’ll give you a nudge: Revelation 22:18-19,
For I testify unto every ... If any man shall add unto
these things, God shall add unto him the plagues
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:34:25 PM PDT
by
tumblindice
(our new, happy lives)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
True. He descended there to free those in that part of hades we call paradise (Abrahams Bosom). when HE ascended on high he took this train of captives with him. This, I have been taught and believed all my life. Still do.
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:36:21 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Haggai 1, V6.. and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes. (My plight))
To: Salvation
Catholics believe (and so do I) that Christs body was in the grave, but his soul was alive and he went to free the good people who were waiting for him to be the first one into heaven. We share a common belief there. I'm Baptist.
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:39:15 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Haggai 1, V6.. and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes. (My plight))
To: Hot Tabasco; NYer
If God has always been, why would He have permitted the "just" to go to hell and suffer?
It sounds as though you may be interpreting "hell" in the popular version as a place over which Satan rules, tormenting lost souls as God rules over heaven, where the souls of the blessed go when they die. This is not a Christian understanding of hell. There are at least three words in the New Testament translated as "hell"": Gehenna, Tartaros, and Hades. Hades was where everyone who died ended up in the sense understood by many of the region that had been Hellenized. The bosom of Abraham described in Luke 16:23 may have been understood as a subdivision of Hades inhabited by the just but able to be seen from other subdivisions, as though from a far distance, by those who are not so just, all of them waiting for the final judgment, however that's to be worked out. In either case, the South Park caricature of hell is not a caricature of a Christian doctrine of hell.
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:43:32 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: All
I’m guessing the reason no one is providing any biblical authority for the position that Jesus actually journeyed down to Hell (like Herakles to Hades) after having been crucified and having died, is because it simply doesn’t exist.
It’s just something passed down from generation-to-generation and people say, “Well, that’s what I was taught so that’s what I believe.”
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:46:12 PM PDT
by
tumblindice
(our new, happy lives)
To: Salvation
Well; it seems that we will be disagreeing about this until the SECOND Coming. (Don’t tell the MORMONs)
But the question that bugs me is, “What was Jesus WEARING after the Resurrection?”
The soldiers took away the scarlet robe they’d placed on Him and replaced His own clothes on Him... MT 27:31
Then, after the crucifixion, they gambled for His clothes... MT 27:35
Then Joseph wrapped His body with clean linen... MT 27:60
Then, after the resurrection, Peter saw the linen strips; lying by themselves... LK 24:12 & JN 20:6
Thus my question.
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:46:49 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Salvation
One of the Gospels talks about the people rising from their tombs and roaming around Jerusalem, but not everyone could see them.The first is true, but the second is unfounded. Matt 27:52-53
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posted on
04/07/2012 6:48:58 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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