Yes, you can actually live sin free and happy as a child!

youtube.com ^ | 04/02/12 | fabian

[fabian]

Here is a very simple and real explaination of how you can return to your former happy state and deal with the insanity of a socialist takeover of our once free nation. And a very effective mental exercise to get you onto that yellow brick road now!

[fabian]

bump!

[ravenwolf]

Yes, and Paul is speaking of the time of awareness before salvation

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Where does he say that?

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You also did not address the point of Jesus telling Mary to go and sin no more...a direct and followable command or he would not have said it.

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I doubt if under any circumstances he would have told her to go and keep on sinning.

And it is obvious that her accusers realized they were sinners other wise they would have judged her.

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1John 1:8-10

“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”

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John says it in both ways here.
If we say that we have no sin.

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If we say that we have not sinned.

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Luke 18:9
And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

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Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

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The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

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I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

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And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

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I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

[fabian]

Of course we have sinned! But the point of salvation is to become free of it and stop, otherwise you are downgrading the entire suffering of Jesus!
..”I doubt if under any circumstances he would have told her to go and keep on sinning.”....Jesus gave her a command that he knew was doable because she would be saved or was in that moment of love for him. He would never have given her a command that she could not possibly follow! ever! i follow it now...and I know others do also. Because you have not found the power to does not give you the right to redefine the meaning of what Jesus did for all of us. How dare you actually.

[higgmeister]

What the heck am I talking about? I'm talking about the advocacy of being free from anger! I never want to be free from anger at at the mindless minions of Socialism and the heinously evil adherents of Islamism.

I have seen to many decent individuals believe salvation means they should reject the teeming struggles of secular life. That kind of thinking doesn't get us across the goal line.

[ravenwolf]

Of course we have sinned! But the point of salvation is to become free of it and stop, otherwise you are downgrading the entire suffering of Jesus!

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Since committing Adultery is the only bodily sin, i can agree with you there.

But how many times does sin even come close to something like that?

For instance not stopping to help some one along the road while driving to Church, and getting your hands dirty, just one example but there are thousands of them.

Most of what Jesus was calling sin had to do with helping others, or not helping them, that is really what it is all about, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Unbelief is the only unforgivable sin because if some one don,t believe, who is going to forgive them.

The rest of it is just between you and Jesus, the thief on the cross for instance was forgiven just like that, he did not have a chance to sin any more, but what if he had?

1Jo 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Peter denied Jesus three times, even though he knew who Jesus was but as far as we know Peter was saved any way, and became a pillar of God ( in Pauls words ).

Jesus drink wine with the sinners but if some one in the church today was accused of that it would be reason for excommunication.

So different people has a different idea of what sin is, we know that adultery is sin but many Christians write down their own ideas of sin and in order to try to make it Biblical they will do a lot of half scriptures which is a lie if it is done intentionally.

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1 cor 13
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When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

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For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

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And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

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Based on what what Paul said above i can hardly see the idea of being happy like we are Children, we are to come to Christ as Children but then we are supposed to grow up in Christ, not stay little Children.

[fabian]

Well, the analogy of being like children is being honest and innocent. And open to direction by God without reservations. Children are happy and not yet weighted down by ego and trauma's of life's built up irritations and impatiences.

[ravenwolf]

Well, the analogy of being like children is being honest and innocent. And open to direction by God without reservations. Children are happy and not yet weighted down by ego and trauma’s of life’s built up irritations and impatiences.

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That is true, and also responsibility because Children only have the responsibility that they are taught, they could just as easy believe a false prophet as a true one.

[fabian]

It is true!

[higgmeister]

For the record, it looks like someone may be trolling for "donations" to pay the rent.

I put these links on the most recent post on the top of the list and the whole thread was quickly deleted.

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[Salvation]

**Unless this video (which I haven’t watched) simply says believe in Jesus (alone) for your personal salvation then it won’t work!.**

Are you playing God by making this announcement?

[JSDude1]

Just declaring what God did say in His word!

[Salvation]

And you take quotes out of context, so it seems, for man sinned in the Garden and we are all sinners. We must repent. We aren’t automatically saved live magic.

You do believe that you are a sinner, don’t you? Christ was the sinless one. Not us.

[JSDude1]

You do believe that you are a sinner, don’t you? Christ was the sinless one. Not us

In do beleive this- to deny this would be to deny reality (and God).

However I also quote Acts: 16:13

They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, along with everyone in your household.”

Also John 3:3-21

“3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.[a]”

4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You[c] must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”[d]

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? 11 Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.[e] 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[f] 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”[g]

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.”

You personally wouldn’t deny this would you?