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To: fabian

Yes, and Paul is speaking of the time of awareness before salvation


Where does he say that?

You also did not address the point of Jesus telling Mary to go and sin no more...a direct and followable command or he would not have said it.

I doubt if under any circumstances he would have told her to go and keep on sinning.

And it is obvious that her accusers realized they were sinners other wise they would have judged her.


1John 1:8-10

“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”


John says it in both ways here.
If we say that we have no sin.

and
If we say that we have not sinned.


Luke 18:9
And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

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Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

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The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

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I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

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And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

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I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


22 posted on 04/04/2012 9:43:46 AM PDT by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: ravenwolf
Of course we have sinned! But the point of salvation is to become free of it and stop, otherwise you are downgrading the entire suffering of Jesus!
..”I doubt if under any circumstances he would have told her to go and keep on sinning.”....Jesus gave her a command that he knew was doable because she would be saved or was in that moment of love for him. He would never have given her a command that she could not possibly follow! ever! i follow it now...and I know others do also. Because you have not found the power to does not give you the right to redefine the meaning of what Jesus did for all of us. How dare you actually.
23 posted on 04/04/2012 4:19:33 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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