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Lutherans May Voice Opposition To Marriage Amendment { ELCA }
WCCO-5 Minneapolis ^ | 2/17/12

Posted on 02/17/2012 9:45:54 AM PST by SmithL

Lutherans in Minnesota plan to officially voice their opposition to the proposed state constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage.

Close to 1,000 Lutheran representatives will vote on the issue on Friday at the annual assembly.

The resolution says the amendment would prevent one group of committed couples and families from having the same rights and protections afforded to all others.

In 2009, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America assembly in Minneapolis passed a policy that moved toward a more accepting response to same-gender relationships.

The assembly also passed resolutions that allowed for congregations to support leaders within the ELCA in committed same-gender partnerships.


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: elca; homosexualagenda; lutheran; minnesota
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1 posted on 02/17/2012 9:46:05 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Not true Lutherans.


2 posted on 02/17/2012 9:48:12 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: lightman

Well, there’s a surprise.


3 posted on 02/17/2012 9:49:49 AM PST by SmithL (If you reward certain behavior, don't be surprised when you see more of that behavior)
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To: SmithL

Why don’t they just voice opposition by voting “no,” instead of trying to take ANY voice away from those who want to vote “yes?”


4 posted on 02/17/2012 10:10:58 AM PST by fwdude
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To: SmithL

So last night I read the book of Jude for the first time. It is a word for word literal description of what is happening to our churches in america.

Both my church (UMC) and this lutheran sect.


5 posted on 02/17/2012 10:11:28 AM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: ReformationFan
Absolutely correct.

Not only are they not true Lutherans, they aren't even Christians. And yes, I can say this with authoritative certainty.

6 posted on 02/17/2012 10:12:40 AM PST by fwdude
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To: SmithL; lightman
The ELCA is to Lutheranism as Bizarro is to Superman.


7 posted on 02/17/2012 10:15:34 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: ReformationFan

agreed..


8 posted on 02/17/2012 10:22:24 AM PST by brivette
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Christ is in our midst!

9 posted on 02/17/2012 10:44:47 AM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Christ is in our midst!

10 posted on 02/17/2012 10:47:53 AM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Charles Henrickson
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11 posted on 02/17/2012 10:49:35 AM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: lightman

My acronym for them has been either the Extremely Liberal Church in America or the Ex-Lutheran Church in America.


12 posted on 02/17/2012 10:56:17 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: lightman

My acronym for them has been either the Extremely Liberal Church in America or the Ex-Lutheran Church in America.


13 posted on 02/17/2012 10:56:50 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: ReformationFan

The Lutheran Church was totally destroyed by Hitler and the 3rd Reich. They were becoming secularized even before Hitler hit the scene-—the humanism destroyed many of the Christian Churches and was noted by Bonhoeffer who in America in the 30’s, said; many of the “churches” in America were so devoid of the “Word of God” that they couldn’t call themselves Christian—and it wasn’t going to be long before these churches became “temples for Baal”.

Bonhoeffer praised some of the fundamental Christian Churches though—but the Riverside and Union —ones financed and pastor propped up with billions from John D. Rockefeller taught Secularism in the 30’s—Fosdick was all over Time magazine as “brilliant” theologian when he was Satan’s mouthpiece. The Progressive/Marxists were trying to destroy Christianity then too—it started in the schools—propaganda—and pushing Atheist worldview in Children in the 30’s by the socialist Dewey and the Communists (and terrorists) who were writing curricula. Worldview is formed in childhood-—either you are a godless person—or you believe that Natural Rights come from God. America
s foundational philosophy is God-—given Natural Rights. We need to keep God in America or we loose all rights-—and the Hitler’s and zeroes know that.

The Lutherans KNOW that there is NO RIGHT TO SODOMY—it is irrational and stupid—and is Satanistic-—sodomy is the worship of hedonism and demeans human beings-—and continued practice of the acts is the slippery slope to the Hitler SA BRownshirts-—vile homosexuals who sodomized the Hitler Youth and seduced many into the homosexual lifestyle through their German “boy scout” groups founded by homosexuals so they could have orgies with boys in the woods. Like Afghanistan’s culture and that of the Ancient Greeks where women are also breeders only and boys for recreation.

These “Lutherans” are evil-—anyone who claims their is a “right” to vile acts and claim it shows “love” is sick. It is nihilism.

-—you have a Satanic temple exactly what Bonhoeffer predicted before he was killed by Hitler because he didn’t allow God to be taken out of his Christian Church.


14 posted on 02/17/2012 11:08:17 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SmithL

Well I am convicted that those so called Christians who favor same sex marriage —I’d wager anything but my salvation that they cannot show me a single verse of Scripture that endorses homosexual unions.If they can show where in the Holy Writ that Moses, Jesus, or the Apostle Paul ever endorsed same sex unions. The way I read Scripture Moses,Followed by Jesus of Nazareth ,when He was doing His earthy Ministry, and the Apostle Paul after being converted on the road to persecute the followers of Christ.All three followed the same model for “marriage” and it was the union of one man and one woman.Jesus taught anything else was fornication and /or adultery.grounds for divorce.


15 posted on 02/17/2012 11:35:38 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: savagesusie; Charles Henrickson
Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS) might disagree with you. In the US the two main Lutheran demominations are LCMS (Missouri Synod), mainly German tradition and conservative and ELCA, more Scandinavian, and quite liberal. This bunch is ELCA. (There's a funny episode of Cheers wherein Woody gets married, but his marriage is shortly torn apart by religous contraversy. He's LCMS, she's ELCA.

Charles is a former ECLA, so maybe he can fill you in on the difference.

A big problem for the European Church is that churchs have long been supported by the state. The Nazis were careful to subsidize Protestant churchs, which made them subordinate to it. Bonhoeffer, and others, led unauthorized "confessing" churchs that opposed the Nazis, but came into conflict with it. The Roman Church lived in an uneasy relationship with the Nazis. Many Roman clerics were sent to Dachau, and Hitler intended to settle scores with the Catholics after the War.

16 posted on 02/17/2012 11:45:34 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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Most of the mainstream Protestant Churches are not going to be helpful in the culture war. That’s one reason the Catholic Church is in the crosshairs of the regime now.


17 posted on 02/17/2012 12:24:18 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: SmithL
Every time the ELCA passes one of these apostate resolutions, the Missouri Synod picks up more congregations who vote to come on over, mmm, mmm, mmm.

I look at the glass half full, LOL.

Leni

18 posted on 02/17/2012 12:41:14 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: StonyBurk

They assert that King David had more than feelings for Absalom and even insinuate that there might be more to Jesus’ relationship with St. John in that he is termed “the beloved Disciple”.

Blasphemy! Anathema!


19 posted on 02/17/2012 12:41:33 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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20 posted on 02/17/2012 12:55:52 PM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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