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Braveheart letter to Pope returns to Scotland
cna ^ | January 13, 2012 | David Kerr

Posted on 01/16/2012 1:49:00 PM PST by NYer

William Wallace of Scotland's name (center) written in Latin:

Edinburgh, Scotland, Jan 13, 2012 / 03:52 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- A 14th-century letter asking Pope Boniface VIII to look favorably upon the Scottish patriot Sir William Wallace during his visit to Rome has been returned to Scotland.

“This document is an enigma,” said George MacKenzie, head of National Records of Scotland at the unveiling ceremony in Edinburgh on Jan. 12.
 
“It’s a letter from the French king to his officials at the Vatican mentioning Wallace, but we don't know what his business was with the Pope. What we do know is that the document still fascinates, 700 years after it was written.”
 
The life of Sir William Wallace was famously portrayed by Mel Gibson in his 1995 Oscar-winning film “Braveheart.” Until Jan. 12, the letter about the real-life Wallace was held in England, since being discovered in the Tower of London in the 1830s.

The letter was originally written in 1299, when Wallace traveled to the court of Philip IV of France to try and persuade him to support the Scots against Edward I of England. A year after Wallace’s arrival, Philip IV wrote the letter in question to his agents in Rome.

The letter, begins, “Philip by the grace of God, king of the French, to his beloved and loyal people appointed at the Roman Court,” and commands the French officials to “ask the Supreme Pontiff to consider with favor our beloved William le Wallace of Scotland, knight, with regard to those things which concern him that he has to expedite.” It is signed at the royal castle of Pierrefonds on the Feast of All Saints, Nov. 7, 1300.

“We do not have a lot of tangible links with Wallace as most of the documentation has been destroyed, so to have something that Wallace actually touched is a massive boost for Scotland,” said Duncan Fenton of the Society of William Wallace, who had campaigned for the return of the letter.

The document suggests that Wallace intended to visit the papal court of Pope Boniface VIII, but it is unknown whether he actually reached Rome.

Wallace was later betrayed and captured by English forces near Glasgow in 1305. He was then taken to London where he was executed following a show trial at Westminster Hall. Scotland’s freedom was subsequently secured, however, when Pope John XXII recognized the country’s independence in 1320.

“I am delighted to welcome the Wallace letter back to Scotland,” said Scottish Culture Secretary Fiona Hyslop. “To have it here in Scotland, where it can be viewed by the Scottish public, is very significant indeed.”

The historic document will now go on public display this summer at the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh, alongside another rare letter associated with Wallace that dates back to 1297.
 


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: 1297; 1299; 13001101; 13001107; 1305; 1320; bonifaceviii; braveheart; duncanfenton; edwardi; fionahyslop; georgemackenzie; godsgravesglyphs; melgibson; philipiv; popejohnxxii; scotland; scotlandyet; vatican; williamwallace
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1 posted on 01/16/2012 1:49:11 PM PST by NYer
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To: SunkenCiv; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Sir William Wallace - "Braveheart"
2 posted on 01/16/2012 1:51:01 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

Well, would have been nice if they’d translated the full letter for context. It sounds like an endorsement or letter of recommendation of sorts...to further Wallace’s aims in country. A rally of support?


3 posted on 01/16/2012 1:59:38 PM PST by Dysart (#Changeitback)
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To: NYer

All Saints’ Day is November 1st—someone must have misread the number. I don’t know if they would be using Arabic numerals this early (where it would be easy to misread a 1 as a 7).


4 posted on 01/16/2012 2:02:02 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: NYer

Very cool! Thanks for posting!


5 posted on 01/16/2012 2:02:42 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: NYer

Perhaps someone can find Scotland’s lost spine and return it to them.


6 posted on 01/16/2012 2:03:08 PM PST by SuzyQue (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: SuzyQue
Perhaps someone can find Scotland’s lost spine and return it to them.

Get with the times......all non-arab countries' most courageous leaders are behind them. I'm sure Scotland along with most other non-arab countries produce fine upstanding common-folk but when it comes to the leaders of said countries....well,,,,there's not much hope.
7 posted on 01/16/2012 2:11:09 PM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Is it possible that the discrepancy is due the difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendars?


8 posted on 01/16/2012 2:12:44 PM PST by LifePath
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To: NYer

Can I first say post

FREEDOMMMMM LOL!


9 posted on 01/16/2012 2:28:46 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: LifePath
No--this was almost 300 years before the Gregorian calendar was introduced, and the discrepancy between the Julian calendar and what the date should have been (assuming the calendar had been as accurate from A.D. 325 as it was after A.D. 1582) would have been about 8 days, not 6.

If they were counting days in the Roman fashion, the first day of November would be the Kalends of November and the 7th day of November would be the 7th day before the Ides of November.

We may have to wait until a full copy of the text is made available.

10 posted on 01/16/2012 2:30:41 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus; LifePath

The document was written a week after the Feast of All Saints. Here is the Latin and the translation from the National Archives:

Transcription

Ph[ilippus] dei gra[tia] Franc[orum] Rex dil[ec]tis et fidelib[us] gentib[us] n[ost]ris ad Roman[am] Cur[iam] destinatis, s[a]l[u]t[em] et dil[ectionem]. Mandam[us] vob[is] quat[enus] Sum[m]um Pontificem requiratis ut dilectum n[ost]r[u]m Guill[el]m[um] le Walois de Scotia militem reco[m]mendatum habeat in hiis q[ue] ap[ud] eum habu[er]it expedire. Dat[um] ap[ud] Petrafontem die Lun[e] post festum Omn[ium] Sanctor[um]. [Endorsed]: Quarta l[itte]ra R[egis] Franc[ie].

Translation

Philip by the grace of God, king of the French, to his beloved and loyal people appointed at the Roman Court, greetings and favour. We command you that you ask the Supreme Pontiff to consider with favour our beloved William le Wallace of Scotland, knight, with regard to those things which concern him that he has to expedite. Dated at Pierrefonds on the Monday after the feast of All Saints [7 November 1300]. [Endorsed]: Fourth letter of the King of France.

Source: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/williamwallace.asp


11 posted on 01/16/2012 2:46:24 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Billy here is a friend of ours from the other side
and he and his associates can help us with our English “problem”.


12 posted on 01/16/2012 3:06:03 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: NYer

Weren’t there two popes at the time? One under the thumb of Phillip the Fair in Avignon and the other in Rome?


13 posted on 01/16/2012 3:12:32 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Jacquerie

No, Boniface VIII was the only pope at the time. He’s one of the most controversial of the medieval popes. Shortly after his pontificate the popes began to reside at Avignon. The Great Schism when there was one pope in Rome and another in Avignon is later, after 1378.


14 posted on 01/16/2012 3:39:09 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: vladimir998
Thanks.

I consulted the perpetual calendar in The World Almanac and November 1, 1300, was on a Tuesday, so they have the date November 7 right. The journalist who reported on the story obviously did not know that November 1 is the feast of All Saints and misinterpreted the translation to mean that 7 November was the feast rather than the Monday after the feast.

15 posted on 01/16/2012 3:45:14 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: NYer
...with regard to those things which concern him that he has to expedite.

Gawd I love that. Yo, take care of my homeboy.

16 posted on 01/16/2012 3:45:23 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (eat more possum.)
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To: NYer

I second the Very Cool!
Wha’ hae, Scotland!
One of the first patriot fighters...


17 posted on 01/16/2012 4:16:26 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thanks.


18 posted on 01/16/2012 4:26:47 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: NYer
I can remember seeing BRAVEHEART because it was a Mel Gibson film. I hadn't a CLUE as to who William Wallace was.
Even after all the hoop-la about it people still didn't connect the dots....Scottish freedom fighter. They still thought it was a film about American Indians.
Oh well.

I thought it was a GREAT movie though I don't watch it anymore....way too sad.

19 posted on 01/16/2012 5:21:33 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer

Pope John XXII secured Scotland’s freedom in 1320 when Scotland was recognized as a sovereign country.

However, many of its children who immigrated to this country, and who seem to post here on FR, seem to have forgotten that fact.


20 posted on 01/16/2012 5:57:51 PM PST by CTrent1564
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