Posted on 01/08/2012 7:35:38 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
You don’t control what Christians beleive. You are not a Christian. Who cares if you are “sick” of the Christian faith - you rejected it. Do your thing. Mind your own business.
Stirring up conflict between Christians and Jews over faith differences is what the Left does. As you might have noticed, Jews are coming out on the short end of the stick in leftist circles where “fury” over one another’s faith is encouraged and rampant. We don’t political correctness here. Christians argue amongst themselves on faith discussions and respect others doing the same amongst themselves. It is one of the civic basics of religious freedom in the US.
??? No Catholic can reject any of the canonical Pauline epistles and not be a material heretic.
I have yet to find any authorization given by God to man for man to pick and choose which Scripture is true and which is false.
You should take that up with Martin Luther.
>> “I think the whole Tebow thing is just getting some people on edge” <<
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Especially his success!
>> “ I am just trying to get it into the thick skulls of arrogant Christians who believe they are the only right ones and that the Jews are doomed.” <<
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Your perception is incorrect.
Christians do not think that Jews are doomed. The Bible doesn’t say that Jews are doomed; just temporarily blinded by God, so that the gentile branch can be grafted into “Israel.” It actually says that all of true Israel will be saved, not doomed.
You have a partial understanding of your scriptures, but so do most present “Christians.” In the case of the Jews, the lack of understanding was deliberately caused by God to complete his plans, and in the case of the supposed Christians, the cause of their misunderstanding is their own lack of desire to understand.
First century Christians understood; they all celebrated the Lord’s appointed feasts, that is 90% of what the New Testament was about; read it and see. Every time they got together it was one of the feasts; how can so many Christians miss that fact?
You don’t see any problems with posts 56 and 63?
I don't care, you understand, that is between them and the Person Who wrote the Bible. My issue was the hypocrisy of the poster who rejected the Epistles based on the lame excuse that they were part of the Catholic church without providing any believable, valid justification for his denial of those particular Scriptures.
As for Martin Luther, the fact that he was an anti-Semite and provided inspiration for the Nazis costs him a lot of credibility with me. Martin Luther is not someone who I hold in very high esteem so any insults against him are basically meaningless as far as I'm concerned.
As I pointed out to you on another thread, Campion, Peter’s LAST DAYS speak of REVIVAL. Paul’s LAST DAYS speak of APOSTACY. Since God does NOT contradict Himself, then there is obviously something DIFFERENT happening in Paul’s message than in Peter’s message. Both true. And both given by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. How can this be?
I would just add that the partial blindness applies only to the physical, ethnic descendents of Abraham, not Gentile converts to Judaism. God calls all of the Jewish descendents of Abraham His chosen people and the apple of His eye. Gentiles, apart from those who have trusted the death of Jesus as payment for their sin, are never referred to by God as His people.
An important distinction, I believe.
"Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands: That at that time ye were without Christ, BEING ALIENS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, AND STRANGERS FROM THE COVENANTS OF PROMISE, HAVING NO HOPE, AND WITHOUT GOD IN THE WORLD: But NOW in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST." Eph. 2:11-13. It goes on to say that the middle wall of partition that separated us has been removed in order that Christ might make of Himself ONE NEW MAN. When that NEW MAN, the Church the BOdy of Christ is complete, we will be raptured, and the middle wall of partition will be back. When Israel's blindness is removed, the tribulation period is on them, and they go into the Millenial Kingdom at the 2nd coming of Christ. Whereby they will be a Kingdom of priests and a blessing to all nations, just as God said.
And that Scripture says it all. Thank you!
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
I missed them the first time through.
Thank you.
I apologize,but the comments aimed at me were obnoxious and unnecessary.
I’m not trying to control what anyone believes,but I am going to respond when someone says that anyone who is not a Christian is under the dominion of satan. Mind my own business? Really?
People are free to believe in Jesus if they wish but when they make foolish statements that non-Christians (the Jews)are under the control of Satan you can darn well believe I am going to interject.
I am doing my own thing and I do not wish to be told I am wrong,that I have a void and that I am having a battle with G-d because I do not accept Jesus. Saying those things is not only wrong,it’s obnoxious,rude and arrogant.
You don’t see Jews (whose religion and Bible came 2,000 years before,BTW) pushing Judaism on Christians,do you? We don’t have this belief that we are right and that everyone else is wrong or that one needs to be Jewish in order to be “saved”. That is one thing that attracted me to Judaism.
Speaking of religious freedom,you have the right to believe as you do but you don’t have the right to push it on others and attempt to get them to convert to your religion. We do have freedom of speech but there are times when a person has to back off and keep their religion to themselves.
Religion is a private matter between the believer and G-d. Didn’t Jesus tell people to pray in secret and not flaunt their religion?
Matthew 5:6
But when you pray, go into your room,close the door and pray to your Father,who is unseen.Then your father,who sees what is done in secret,will reward you.
We do not have a patial understanding of our scriptures.
That is an arrogant,ignorant statement right there! You are not a Jew! You know nothing of our scriptures except the perverted,twisted around Christian version of them.
I guess you’ll be one of the ones that has to find out the hard way.
Sure.
Have a nice life.
I don’t wish to hear any more ignorant baloney from you.
You are the type of Christian I despise. Go away.
We all know who’ll be going away.
Maybe it’ll be you,with any luck.
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