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Old Earth Belief
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Posted on 12/22/2011 6:33:49 AM PST by truthfinder9

Have you ever been to a church that claimed that the earth is young? Have you ever felt pressured into believing in a young earth, even though you felt the scientific evidence was contrary to a young earth? Have you ever thought that in order to be a Christian, you had to deny science, and believe in young earth creation science? You are not alone. Many churches teach that the earth is young, and many require you to profess this belief through their statement of faith, which includes a world that was created in six 24-hour days. No, you are definitely not alone...millions have been driven away from the church, and Christ, because of this very topic.

However, there is no need for this to happen. You can believe in an old earth and be a Christian. The doctrine of salvation has nothing to do with the age of the earth. The Bible does not say, “Believe in a young earth, or be condemned to hell.” You can become a Christian and believe in an old earth.

Want to learn more? This website is here to help you. Let's start with a basic explanation of old earth theology. There are several major positions one can take with regards to belief in an old earth and universe. Using a simplistic view of old earth creationist beliefs, they can basically be split into two groups, those who hold to a Day-Age Interpretation, and those who believe in the Gap Theory

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: creation; creationism; genesis; oldearth; yecism; youngearth
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1 posted on 12/22/2011 6:33:52 AM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9
Given that time is relative there is no reason one necessarily has to choose between young earth/old earth. Both could be true simultaneously depending on the perspective of the one recounting the event.
2 posted on 12/22/2011 6:52:22 AM PST by circlecity
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To: truthfinder9

There is also just as much science to prove the young earth theory...or what God’s Word says!
Like the halo’s in the granite...these were made within a few seconds, not millions of years! I guess the bible can be trusted:)


3 posted on 12/22/2011 6:52:57 AM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: truthfinder9
Consider this…the Bible says a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to man (II Peter 3:8).

The Bible is the first Book to state the Theory of Relativity. Time is a complex subject and depends (among other things) ones perspective.

4 posted on 12/22/2011 6:57:38 AM PST by BipolarBob (Of all the taglines in all the posts in all the world and she read mine.)
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To: truthfinder9

Oh, for goodness sake! How long is infinity? How long in G-d’s time does it take to create an unending universe...and perhaps others? What constitutes a ‘day’ for G-d who lives forever? Does G-d even need days or nights...or ‘time’ for that matter? It’s just silly. Man is so arrogant that he believes HE is the center of all things and G-d must operate on Eastern Standard time. How blasphemous to say one believes in G-d and sets about to limit G-d to man’s own laws...which have often been proven wrong, and been MORE often just stupid.


5 posted on 12/22/2011 6:58:05 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: astratt7

God is eternal. I don’t presume to know what a day is to Him.


6 posted on 12/22/2011 6:59:06 AM PST by steve8714 (A-B-O-E-R-&G)
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To: astratt7
There is also just as much science to prove the young earth theory

Really? Such as? Love to see it.

Why some people insist on a literal interpretation of modern English words in the Bible, in this particular case the English word "day" in Genesis, is beyond me. Especially so when it defies reason and scientific evidence, and most importantly when the modern English text has undergone so many language & semantic translations from the original oral/written language over the centuries.

7 posted on 12/22/2011 7:02:34 AM PST by MCH
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To: astratt7

The halo in the granite argument was such a joke and has been discounted. Gentry “study” is similar the BS leftist version of man made global warming and other crap.


8 posted on 12/22/2011 7:04:41 AM PST by rightofthefairway
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To: astratt7
There is also just as much science to prove the young earth theory.

Really?? Well maybe junk science. The earth I live onis about 4.5 billion years old.

9 posted on 12/22/2011 7:07:37 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: circlecity

exactly

anyone who thinks God’s time ran by our watches and calendars is just ignorant

what is 6000 God-years? Only God knows!


10 posted on 12/22/2011 7:08:27 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: truthfinder9

God put the Bible in human terms for us to understand. An especially stupid human trait is to use humanity’s limitations to beat up on God.


11 posted on 12/22/2011 7:08:35 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: truthfinder9
Preachers can say all kinds of bizarre things. I once went to a church and on a certain Sunday the preacher joyously announced that President Bill Clinton had been found INNOCENT! I was a freeper at the time and I never went back. So, if you are in one of those kinds of churches, leave!
12 posted on 12/22/2011 7:13:59 AM PST by Ditter
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To: truthfinder9

The quote about a day with God being as a thousand years was written at a time when few had any concept of millions, let alone billions. The days seem to describe what we humans refer to as ages. The important thing is that God started it all in motion, whether billions of years ago, or less than ten thousand. Your belief system may vary, that’s your right.


13 posted on 12/22/2011 7:16:46 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: truthfinder9

Young earth, old earth, my salvation doesn’t depend on either. God created the earth, that is all that matters.


14 posted on 12/22/2011 7:27:34 AM PST by tiki
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To: truthfinder9

Back in the mid-seventeenth century, Archbishop James Ussher of the Church of Ireland calculated that the earth was created on October 23, 4004 BC at 9:00 AM—and I assume he meant Pacific Daylight Time. When my geology class met at 9 on the morning of October 23 some years ago, it turned into a surprise party put on by the geology department to celebrate the creation of the earth.


15 posted on 12/22/2011 7:27:47 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: truthfinder9

The old Earth was ruined by the fall of Lucifer when Lucifer was cast out of heaven with a third of the angels. In Genesis, God made things right again and “replenished” it.


16 posted on 12/22/2011 7:32:20 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: truthfinder9

Do you believe in a literal Adam and Eve?

Do you believe that death existed before Adam?

Do you believe that God destroyed the whole world in a global cataclysm?


17 posted on 12/22/2011 7:32:26 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: truthfinder9

I think the big, unanswered question is “Why did God hate dinosaurs?”

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18 posted on 12/22/2011 7:36:16 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: JimRed

Hence the problem with literal interpretation of Old Testament stories that are thousands of years old and passed through barbs and word of mouth for the majority of their existence. Also why, while I am a Christian, I am not an Evangelical.


19 posted on 12/22/2011 7:37:48 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: ExtremeUnction

I have no idea where the “Earth is only 6000 years old” argument comes from.

If it comes from counting the years from Adam’s age at death, and then adding all the subsequent generational ages, then it ignores time in the Garden of Eden (a spiritual place of Earth). For all we know that Adam and Eve were residing in this garden for billions of years as they were immortal.

There are many metaphors used in scripture and it is difficult to be at all scientific. But the key thing for a scientist to discern from scripture is that it cannot be falsified. It is written in a way that no firm scientific finding can render it fraudulent. That in itself is amazing.

This is not to say that scripture is scientifically provable, it merely points out that biblical scriptures are not contradicted by science such as the example I just gave that Adam and Eve could have existed in an immortal state for billions of years before expulsion.

The Resurrection is not provable scientifically nor is it falsifiable. This is what is amazing about the biblical scriptures, that the writings are not found to be false by current science and technology.

What amazed me was in reading of Moses on Mt. Sinai questioning direct to God “Who Are You?” and the answer blew me away; “I AM THAT I AM”. This is a tautology, always true X Implies X.

One can’t prove the existence of God. One can’t disprove the existence of God.


20 posted on 12/22/2011 7:38:08 AM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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