Posted on 12/13/2011 11:51:34 AM PST by Jedediah
THE OFFICE OF PROPHET IS ABOUT TO RETURN TO THE CHURCH BODY WORLDWIDE !
The Office of Prophet is about to return , This is not from a person but from a yearn ,
From the calling of many for my voice to speak out ,
True guidance directly into My House ,
For many confusion has been the stage ,
But now I will speak both in grace and in rage ,
For judgement is here in My house ,
Holiness received and strange fire cast out ,
The true and faithful shall remain and be renewed ,
But the false and counterfeit burned to sinew ,
No longer will I permit the spirit of the harlot Jezebel ,
I shall cast this cup into hell ,
So come My Children and drink from The Cup of The Lord ,
Open your mouths and speak ! Pick up your Sword !
For I AM about to reveal all that is TRUE !
Through My Prophets I speak "First" to !
Amos 3:7-8
7Surely the Lord God will do nothing without revealing His secret to His servants the prophets.
8The lion has roared; who will not fear? The Lord God has spoken; who can but prophesy?
Ephesians 3:5
5 God did not reveal it to previous generations, but now by his Spirit he has revealed it to his holy apostles and prophets.
Hosea 12:10
10 I sent my prophets to warn you
with many visions and parables.”
1 Thessalonians 5:20-21
20Do not spurn the gifts and utterances of the prophets [do not depreciate prophetic revelations nor despise inspired instruction or exhortation or warning].
21But test and prove all things [until you can recognize] what is good; [to that] hold fast.
1 Timothy 4:14
14Do not neglect the gift which is in you, [that special inward endowment] which was directly imparted to you [by the Holy Spirit] by prophetic utterance when the elders laid their hands upon you [at your ordination].
1 Corinthians 10:20-24
20No, I am suggesting that what the pagans sacrifice they offer [in effect] to demons (to evil spiritual powers) and not to God [at all]. I do not want you to fellowship and be partners with diabolical spirits [by eating at their feasts].
21You cannot drink the Lord's cup and the demons' cup. You cannot partake of the Lord's table and the demons' table.
22Shall we thus provoke the Lord to jealousy and anger and indignation? Are we stronger than He [that we should defy Him]? 23All things are legitimate [permissible--and we are free to do anything we please], but not all things are helpful (expedient, profitable, and wholesome). All things are legitimate, but not all things are constructive [to character] and edifying [to spiritual life]. 24Let no one then seek his own good and advantage and profit, but [rather] each one of the other [let him seek the welfare of his neighbor]. Amos 5:1-15
1HEAR THIS word which I take up concerning you in lamentation, O house of Israel:
2The Virgin of Israel has fallen; she shall no more rise; she lies cast down and forsaken on her land; there is no one to raise her up. 3For thus says the Lord God: The city that went forth a thousand shall have a hundred left, and that which went forth a hundred shall have ten left to the house of Israel.
4For thus says the Lord to the house of Israel: Seek Me [inquire for and of Me and require Me as you require food] and you shall live! 5But seek not [the golden calf at] Bethel nor enter into [idolatrous] Gilgal, and pass not over to [the idols of] Beersheba; for Gilgal shall surely go into captivity and exile, and Bethel [house of God] shall become Beth-aven [house of vanity, emptiness, falsity, and futility] and come to nothing. 6Seek the Lord [inquire for and of Him and require Him] and you shall live, lest He rush down like fire upon the house of Joseph [representing the ten tribes] and devour it, and there be none to quench it in Bethel [the center of their idol hopes]. 7You who turn justice into [the bitterness of] wormwood and cast righteousness (uprightness and right standing with God) down to the ground, 8Seek Him Who made the [cluster of stars called] Pleiades and [the constellation] Orion, Who turns the shadow of death or deep darkness into the morning and darkens the day into night, Who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out upon the face of the earth--the Lord is His name-- 9Who causes sudden destruction to flash forth upon the strong so that destruction comes upon the fortress. 10They hate him who reproves in the [city] gate [holding him as an abomination and rejecting his rebuke], and they abhor him who speaks uprightly. 11Therefore because you tread upon the poor and take from him exactions of wheat, you have built houses of hewn stone, but you shall not dwell in them; you have planted pleasant vineyards, but you shall not drink their wine. 12For I know how manifold are your transgressions and how mighty are your sins--you who afflict the [uncompromisingly] righteous, who take a bribe, and who turn aside the needy in the [court of the city] gate from their right.
13Therefore he who is prudent will keep silence in such a time, for it is an evil time. 14Seek (inquire for and require) good and not evil that you may live, and so the Lord, the God of hosts, will be with you, as you have said.
15Hate the evil and love the good and establish justice in the [court of the city's] gate. It may be that the Lord, the God of hosts, will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph [the northern kingdom].
Careful, they’ll crank up their wacky wayback machine and anachronistically claim separation of church and state with Ferdinand and Isabella, lol.
Too bad for them that there are historical records in existence that were and are not controlled by the Catholic church.
Besides, who needs that when you can jump right here on FR and see Catholics pining for the return of an inquisition.
More cartoons. One might come to the conclusion that each man’s version of Protestantism is simply a cartoon. How’s that god in the mirror been lately?
And we'll expropriate your land and forbid you from working and stop any worship of God; oh wait, that's what the Protestants did to the Catholics in the 18th and 19th century here in the US. Sorry to intrude.
One might come to the conclusion that each man’s version of Protestantism Catholicism is simply a cartoon. How’s that god in the mirror been lately?
Of course we'll disagree on this Mark, For I see the Reformation as God removing the true believers from the paganism which the leadership within the church had brought in and refused to rid itself of. Big difference between "quitting and splitting".
Had the church done as God required of it then the history may have played out differently. But the reality is the church refused to act on what God clearly stated and thus He acted by raising up those who were willing to do as HE required....unfortunately the leadership continued to resist and so the natural outcome would be the Reformation as it did play out.
Unfortunately to this very day the catholic leadership continues to resist..in fact it often appears to me God has simply allowed sin to run it's course within the catholic church which we see and know the evidences of today.
Personally I would prefer to think more highly of the catholis church as I do believe their are some believers within it. With this I do believe those who truly desire to grow in their relatiosnship with Christ will either leave or become an instrument in God's hands to show others within the catholic church their deep errors.
I do know there are those who see the catholic church as a misssion field and are within the church to do just that among those who believe.
So we will differ on just exactly what the catholic church is about...and I am convinced it serves Rome and it's leadership for power and authority... and they have nothing to do whatsoever with the true worship of Jesus Christ...at best lip service.
Faith in Christ is not faith in the Catholic church and faith in the Catholic church is not faith in Christ.
Catholicism and Christ are not interchangeable terms.
One might. Then again, one might be a graduate of the American public school system. Congratulations; something of a triumph, I'd wager.
Of course we'll disagree on this Mark, For I see the Reformation as God removing the true believers from the paganism which the leadership within the church had brought in and refused to rid itself of. Big difference between "quitting and splitting".
Big guffaws. You are blaming the Reformation on God? You have a greater sense of humour than I had previously believed.
Had the church done as God required of it then the history may have played out differently. But the reality is the church refused to act on what God clearly stated and thus He acted by raising up those who were willing to do as HE required....unfortunately the leadership continued to resist and so the natural outcome would be the Reformation as it did play out.
You are blaming Joel Osteen and Rick Warren on God?
So we will differ on just exactly what the catholic church is about...and I am convinced it serves Rome and it's leadership for power and authority... and they have nothing to do whatsoever with the true worship of Jesus Christ...at best lip service.
Yes, we will disagree. You confuse the Catholic Church with 'Rome' and until the scales drop from your eyes, you will not understand just what the Church of Jesus Christ actually consists of.
Any ‘church’ that doesn’t believe God’s Word is the FINAL authority is from the pit and designed to deceive many.
There is ONLY ONE true Church and Jesus the Christ is the Head of It and HIS WORD ALONE reigns with His members who are referred to as Christians because it is HIM/HIS WORD they are following. They will not follow another ..”But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” John 10:5.
There is only one voice for God’s children - Jesus, The WORD.
There is ONLY ONE true Church and Jesus the Christ is the Head of It and HIS WORD ALONE reigns with His members who are referred to as Christians because it is HIM/HIS WORD they are following. They will not follow another ..”But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” John 10:5.
There is only one voice for God’s children - Jesus, The WORD.
You have posted partial truth. Question: who is the steward?
Try not to twist my words to say what you want them to say Mark. You know I didn't say God was to "blame" for the Reformation which implies it was a bad thing. (You know that sort of communication was in the Garden of Eden as well.) The Reformation began because bad men within the church would not comply with God's will for His church
So let me elaborate further... that because the church leadership (man) refused to obey God and instead allowed and encouraged pagan practices within His church, and indulgences with horrible and grotesques tortures by Bishops if the people didn't comply,... God raised up men to speak out against it's practices, ( Martin Luther's 95 propositions against the doctrine of indulgences comes to mind), and with that these words ring true:
"If the work be of God, who shall stop it?... if it be not, who can forward it? ....Not my will, nor theirs, nor ours; but Thy will, O holy Father, which art in heaven.”
You confuse the Catholic Church with 'Rome'
No I most certainly do not Mark....... And since Jesus said..."My kingdom is not of this world" can the authority of a vicar/pope/magesterium extend beyond those of his superior?"...of course not... but the Roman Catholic Magesterium and the Pope would of course and do say otherwise as follows:
"We declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff." ...(Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302).
"....The strong and effective instrument of salvation is none other than the Roman Pontificate." ....(Pope Leo XIII, Allocution for the 25th anniversary of his election, February 20, 1903; Papal Teachings: The Church, Benedictine Monks of Solesmes, St. Paul Editions, Boston, 1962, par. 653).
"There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved." .....(Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)
You will not understand just 'what' the Church of Jesus Christ actually consists of.
I do most assuredly understand 'WHO' the church of Jesus Christ truly consists of...and that is all those who have put their trust in Jesus Christ as their Savior..which is not a earthly building or location.
So then yes we will indeed agree to disagree.
Try not to twist my words to say what you want them to say Mark. You know I didn't say God was to "blame" for the Reformation which implies it was a bad thing.
Then are you saying that God was responsible for the Reformation? Come on, let us be plain.
The Reformation began because bad men within the church would not comply with God's will for His church
Yes, and Martin Luther lived out his life as landed baron; Ulrich Zwingli got to play soldier; and Jean Cauvin assumed absolute rule over a city-state. That was God's will? If not, then what is it that you discern as God's will?
The Mormons? The Jehovah's Witnesses? The uncounted and unchartered Pentecostals? The Branch Davidians? The Raelians and whatever Quix believes today? What makes you think that you understand God's will better than, for example Gregory of Nissa? Augustine of Hippo? What makes you right and ALL of the Councils wrong?
You confuse the Catholic Church with 'Rome'
No I most certainly do not Mark....... And since Jesus said..."My kingdom is not of this world" can the authority of a vicar/pope/magesterium extend beyond those of his superior?"...
Yes you do. You routinely confuse the Catholic Church and the Latin branch. The only route that Jesus told us is through Him to salvation. He set up the means - the Church. We know of no other. It is the pride and hubris of men that claim otherwise.
You will not understand just 'what' the Church of Jesus Christ actually consists of.
I do most assuredly understand 'WHO' the church of Jesus Christ truly consists of...and that is all those who have put their trust in Jesus Christ as their Savior..which is not a earthly building or location.
However, that also consists of believing in the institution that He set up and that we have Scriptural proof, not just evidence of it and what it should mean to Christians. The Catholic Church is that institution and not some mallfront sham set up last week as a tax dodge.
Do you mean the Catholic church or the Roman Catholic Church or the Latin Catholic Church, or the many and varied conglomeration which is out there? Which of all these are you referring for there are many? It's time you be specific when you speak of the church Mark.
The body of Christ is the church, believers do not have to align with any institution to follow Christ. It's not a requirement for salvation by any means. All thru the scriptures we see that it's thru believing in Christ Jesus and His "finished" work. Nothing we do nor the church building we attend is going to usurp His rightful place, within the heart of the believer...for they know who they have believed in and are persuaded that Jesus is able to keep that which they have committed to Him..and this being sealed by His Holy Spirit.
Certainly it is a good thing to gather together as Christians do. The disciples and others did just that as well. And we are asked not to forsake gathering together. So the building, be it a denomination or someones basement, to worship God is acceptable. God is not contained by any denomination nor are His hands tied to any one organization claiming such.
Some seemingly need a set of stoic and binding laws and adherence's to those, as well as a litany of other rituals and practices to 'feel' religious or/and have a sense they have passed certain requirements earning their way into Gods favor.... But Jesus said "no man comes to the Father except thru me"..He didn't say thru an organization, in fact He had plenty to say to those who attempted to incorporate laws, rituals, etc. which opposed His words otherwise.
Christ has equipped believers to spread the gospel message thru and of His Holy Spirit operating among men... and that message brings with it Freedom from laws and rituals and practices...."If the son sets you free you are free indeed
You won't know full Truth until God's Word is your Final Authority.
Are you saying that you are currently in possession of the full Truth of God?
Put your analyst on danger money, baby.
How could something that uses a pagan term like “Logos” to describe Jesus Christ possibly be of God? (sarc.)
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