Of course we'll disagree on this Mark, For I see the Reformation as God removing the true believers from the paganism which the leadership within the church had brought in and refused to rid itself of. Big difference between "quitting and splitting".
Had the church done as God required of it then the history may have played out differently. But the reality is the church refused to act on what God clearly stated and thus He acted by raising up those who were willing to do as HE required....unfortunately the leadership continued to resist and so the natural outcome would be the Reformation as it did play out.
Unfortunately to this very day the catholic leadership continues to resist..in fact it often appears to me God has simply allowed sin to run it's course within the catholic church which we see and know the evidences of today.
Personally I would prefer to think more highly of the catholis church as I do believe their are some believers within it. With this I do believe those who truly desire to grow in their relatiosnship with Christ will either leave or become an instrument in God's hands to show others within the catholic church their deep errors.
I do know there are those who see the catholic church as a misssion field and are within the church to do just that among those who believe.
So we will differ on just exactly what the catholic church is about...and I am convinced it serves Rome and it's leadership for power and authority... and they have nothing to do whatsoever with the true worship of Jesus Christ...at best lip service.
Faith in Christ is not faith in the Catholic church and faith in the Catholic church is not faith in Christ.
Catholicism and Christ are not interchangeable terms.
Of course we'll disagree on this Mark, For I see the Reformation as God removing the true believers from the paganism which the leadership within the church had brought in and refused to rid itself of. Big difference between "quitting and splitting".
Big guffaws. You are blaming the Reformation on God? You have a greater sense of humour than I had previously believed.
Had the church done as God required of it then the history may have played out differently. But the reality is the church refused to act on what God clearly stated and thus He acted by raising up those who were willing to do as HE required....unfortunately the leadership continued to resist and so the natural outcome would be the Reformation as it did play out.
You are blaming Joel Osteen and Rick Warren on God?
So we will differ on just exactly what the catholic church is about...and I am convinced it serves Rome and it's leadership for power and authority... and they have nothing to do whatsoever with the true worship of Jesus Christ...at best lip service.
Yes, we will disagree. You confuse the Catholic Church with 'Rome' and until the scales drop from your eyes, you will not understand just what the Church of Jesus Christ actually consists of.