Posted on 12/12/2011 3:27:03 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
WASHINGTON, D.C. — News reporters and editors from around the country were urged to allow members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to define themselves rather than to exclusively look to sources outside the church for definitions of what it means to be a Mormon or to explain LDS doctrine or history.
"Define us by who we are and by our central beliefs rather than who we are not or by obscure or irrelevant beliefs," Michael R. Otterson, managing director of public affairs for the LDS Church, said during a Thursday morning session of a conference called, "Politics and Religion: Getting it Right in 2012."
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Otterson identified for the journalists what he considered the five most common stereotypes of members of the LDS Church — that they are not Christian, that they belong to a cult, that they are insular and secretive, that they are weird and that they practice polygamy.
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Otterson explained that members of the church are troubled when they are described as not Christian "because that suggests we are not followers of Jesus Christ, and Christ's divinity is a foundational belief in our faith."
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Yup. Mormons can't dump D&C 132 cause it's their ONLY "scripture" teaching that marriage is eternal; and one of few "scriptures" they have which teaches the concept of plural gods.
They are stuck with it.
Which means the fLDS are in reality the "orthodox" Mormons in practicing polygamy; whereas the LDS are the breakaway Mormon cult-sect.
“Since all those denominations you mentioned broke away from the Catholic Church and then broke away from themselves to start other churches, do you not see how it could be said that these churches are not qualified to judge the Christianity fitness of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?”
Um, no:
1. The Roman Catholic Church did not break away from the Roman Catholic Church.
2. And my point was that the fact that both Protestants AND Roman Catholics agree (in the face of their other differences) that Mormons are not Christians is very good evidence of how settled the theology is.
I can call myself a car, but I am a man.
Subjective truth is for liberals.
“Since all those denominations you mentioned broke away from the Catholic Church and then broke away from themselves to start other churches, do you not see how it could be said that these churches are not qualified to judge the Christianity fitness of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?”
Um, no:
1. The Roman Catholic Church did not break away from the Roman Catholic Church.
2. And my point was that the fact that both Protestants AND Roman Catholics agree (in the face of their other differences) that Mormons are not Christians is very good evidence of how settled the theology is.
I can call myself a car, but I am a man.
Subjective truth is for liberals.
“All the other Churches believe that about themselves. Why shouldn’t Mormons?”
I have no problem with mormons believing they are the true churcha and only way to heaven.
I do, however, object to them trying to paint themselves as another denomination of Christianity, because you are not.
John Smith, et al, were my fellow masons who took our masonic fraternal ritual and turned it into a false religion so he could get rich and score some young chicks.
The only thing different between him and Mohammed was Mohammed had a better army.
So, the Mormons want to define who are Christians, who are Mormons, and control all information about themselves??
HA! Would be easier if Mormons didn’t consistently lie about their history, teachings, beliefs and practices.
The Mormon Jesus is just a loan shark, not a Savior.
The reasons people look outside the LDS church for info is because the LDS church lies and covers up. The Tanners are a Godsend to the truth and the Mormon people and their research is better than Hugh Nibley’s as well.
MORMONS LIE TO “GENTILES” in order to make “The Church” (not God, not Christ) look good.
You like them until you find out what they really think about ‘gentiles’ and Christians and find out that more often than not they are lying or downplaying core beliefs.
Mormonism is a cult, based on all three disciplinary definitions.
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“Otterson identified for the journalists what he considered the five most common stereotypes of members of the LDS Church — that they are not Christian, that they belong to a cult, that they are insular and secretive, that they are weird and that they practice polygamy.
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ALL TRUE!
Here’s a thought!
Let’s allow Muslims to define themselves!
After all, they have gotten a bad rap....
Saundra, we’re you wearing the magic Mormon underwears when you posted this?
Saundra, were you wearing the magic Mormon underwears when you posted this?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I can see it now,,,
Romney encourages the denouncing of Newt as an adulterer and divorce and husband of more than one wife...
While thinking he himself will shine as a faithful husband of just one woman...
and then someone reminds him that as a Mormon male he is salivating about the multitude women he gets to have in the Mormon after life...a normal defination...serial adultery
Romney is often boasting about his so called “faith”...the Mormon believe that polygamy (adultery) is necessary to enter into the Mormon aftyerlife...
Lusting after women is the same as actually committing fornication in the Christian Bible...
Not that Mormons believe the Bible but Romney wants to fool the Christian concervatives...
Romney comes of looking arrogant, pompous, phony, self righteous, and hypocritical...
He realizes it backfired on him...
Time for mop up...damage control..
“define the Mormons by their real beliefs”
OK
Polygamy
It aint just for time anymore...
Howard Stern, you naughty boy. ;^)
The LDS definition of "deity" is woefully small and false.
“Ask a Mormon, and he or she will agree readily that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not part of ‘traditional Christianity’ or ‘historical Christianity,’” Otterson said. “(But) that is not the same as saying that Latter-day Saints are not Christian.”
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Well Sandy it cant be both things...
Lets look at the 2 separtate statements...
1. “Ask a Mormon, and he or she will agree readily that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not part of ‘traditional Christianity’ or ‘historical Christianity,’” Otterson said.
Ask a Christian and he or she will agree readily with that statement...
and so will God...
2. “(But) that is not the same as saying that Latter-day Saints are not Christian.”
When Christians agree with that 1st stsatem,ent this is exactly what they are saying...
and so are the Mormons...
and this is also what God is agreeing to...
Mormons are not Christians...
BUT lets see what the LORD Jesus Christ who is God has to say about the subject...
The Jews and the Mormons gathered around Him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.”
The LORD Jesus Christ answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in My Father’s name speak for me, but you do not believe because you are not My sheep.
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” John 10:24-30
The LORD Jesus Christ says to Sandy and her Mormons, “I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father except by Me.” John 14:6
Mormons are everything you claim they are not - except the polygamy and I know many LDS who look forward to that coming back.
do you not see how it could be said that these churches are not qualified to judge the Christianity fitness of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?
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Actually they being the churches of traditional Christianity ARE perfectly able and required to judge the fitness of the LDS church.
Christ didn’t found a denomination, Sandy, no matter what lies the Mormon church feeds you.
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