Posted on 11/30/2011 11:38:02 AM PST by ReformationFan
three words: Sodom and Gomorrah
Homosexuality is a corruption of natural human sexuality. It is obvious that sexuality has a intended purpose given to it by God through the laws of nature. It is also obvious that homosexuality perverts that purpose and corrupts the process of sexuality. This is not simply based upon religion but is scientific fact.
That Jesus said that our sins go beyond the act of corruption to even the thought of being willing to commit such corruption simply speaks to the fact that ‘sin’ refers to the heart and mind of man whereas the term ‘corruption’ could imply to any process at all. Jesus was simply saying that it is your heart and mind that will be judged and not just simply your actions.
This contradicts what others have said claiming that some, if not all, of the laws handed to Moses do not apply to Christians.
Yashua was saying that either in thought, word, or deed you fail. That’s why you need Him to save you from your sins.
BINGO!!!!...
They would be incorrect. Christ never abolished the law, instead he finished the law. We are held to an even higher standard than obeying the written law by not committing the act, we must not even allow the notion to enter our hearts. Christ told us that even were we to lust after a woman, then we have committed adultery in our hearts.
That's kind of the point of the article.
If we confess Jesus as God, the third Person of the Trinity, and we state that the Bible is the Word of God, then of course Jesus spoke of homosexuality, the entire Bible is His Word.
And if the homosexual lobby still had doubts, then they should Paul’s letters to the Corinthians.
Because the doctrine of Christendom claims their doctrine begins in Matthew instead of Genesis, the doctrine fails on its face in that it claims that Yah’shua gave them a new commandment to form a new church and that this new church is the new chosen ones.
Mt 22:37 Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself...”
But what they fail to add is verse 40: “...On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
And since they neither teach or study Torah(Moses), they miss the fact that Yah’shua was quoting from Torah.
Dt 6:5 You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
and
Lev 19:18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself
"For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished." ... Matthew 5:18
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
Doesn’t He know what your sins will be, before you even commit them or are even born? Why would He breath life into someone that He knows will commit these sins?
Funny thing is that Jesus and The Word are synonomous in such that the Scriptures not only reveal Christ but thay are equivalent to Him.
So...Leviticus and even Romans witness to the fact that Jesus spoke quite a few words regarding “homosexuality”.
And further on that...
I believe we need to think and approach this issue differently.
What the “arseno-koits” do is not sex at all. It is simply self-gratification through the consensual “use” of another person. Those examples from the animal realm (anecdotally some dogs and some penguions) are never embellished with proof of an arseno-koit act...only that these “gay” animals hang out together. It is the physical act that defines a “homosexual” and that act is not intended to propagate mankind.
The word “sex” means the physical act intended to propagate mankind. We should not allow the arseno-koits alter the pure definition of words and terms.
Jesus makes mention of homosexuality in several passages.
First, you have to realize that the words “homosexual” or “gay” are modern words. Instead, Jesus makes mention of Sodom and Gomorrah, where homosexual activity was known to be widespread.
He uses the term “Sodom and Gomorrah” to set a baseline for what is wrong. There are things that are worse than homosexual acts, but the implication is that homosexual acts are still pretty bad.
For example:
- in Matthew 10:14-15, where Jesus describes how his Word, as delivered by his disciples, is to be received:
“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, as ye go forth out of that house or that city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
- in Matthew 10:23-24, where Jesus describes the fate of cities that did not believe after seeing His Works:
“And thou, Capernaum, shalt thou be exalted unto heaven? thou shalt go down unto Hades: for if the mighty works had been done in Sodom which were done in thee, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.”
A lot of people laugh when priests are limited to men because no female apostles are acknowledged, too. Is that "an 'argument from silence;' a logical fallacy"?
This article is an opinion pretending to be logic. It picks and chooses amongst it's references and definitions in favor of its oft repeated preference for an answer. And the author is well aware of his abuse of logic, which is why he starts out by denying exactly what he then does.
The ridiculous levels of fear and loathing about this subject have been exactly the fuel that has enabled it to be used as a major cultural and - most dangerously - legal wedge in our society. What nobody can see through the rage is that enforcing general child protection laws and kicking the government out of the marriage business altogether would reduce the homosexuality issue to irrelevency. Instead, it's been agitated into paranoia, and endless arrogant and hate-filled claims of who Jesus loves and who he detests. It's utterly absurd, and makes Christians look like idiots.
It is a good thing, and I thank Him for it, that He is not like you, stuart.
You keep posing questions from a ‘mocking’ viewpoint. What IS the purpose of this question? It is somewhat sophomoric. Your focus seems to be on the ‘here and now’, completely ‘humanistic’.
Obviously, from your question, you might not allow life to one that would not do as you wished. Again, I thank God He is not like that. While you / I / we are not worthy of His love, we have it.
It would seem Jesus Himself contradicted those claiming that some, if not all, of the laws handed to Moses do not apply to Christians.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” (Matt. 5:17)
The traditional Christian understanding of Old Testament commands and laws is as following:
“Although the Law given from God by Moses, as touching Ceremonies and Rites, do not bind Christian men, nor the Civil precepts thereof ought of necessity to be received in any commonwealth; yet notwithstanding, no Christian man whatsoever is free from the obedience of the Commandments which are called Moral.” (from the Anglican 39 “Articles of Religion” of 1562 (and before))
Basically, this is teaching that the commands in the Old Testament can be divided into three kinds:
Ceremonial: Having to do with the ancient Jewish religion and sacrificial system—completely fulfilled/finished in Jesus Christ (this includes the Kosher dietary regulations, blood regulations, and the Jewish feasts, etc.)
Civil: Having to do with the governance of the theocracracy of ancient Israel/Judah (which ended with the Babylonian captivity of 587 BC), but also, in a sense fulfilled/finished in Jesus Christ
Moral: Centered in the 10 Commandments—but including the sexual and other moral regulations found in the Old Testament, and summarized by Jesus as loving God (with all your heart, mind, soul, & strength) and loving your neighbor (as yourself). All still binding on Christians today.
In all the law—St. Paul is teaching that law-keeping, or morality by us does NOT SAVE....or in any way EARN us God’s favor, as Jesus shows that God loves the Christian by first by loving us—to His own death, even while we were still sinners. So the law doesn’t enable Christians to be lovable—but it does help the (already) beloved—those who believe on Jesus already, to better love God and others.
Therefore the purpose of morality—compared to other religions—is turned on its head—in that it is a response to salvation....NOT an attempt to earn it.
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