After returning from mass today, please post your reactions to the new translations.
A definite improvement, although the changes are certainly not radical. We had very nice cards in the pews from Magnificat press that had the new parts on them. There actually aren’t a lot of differences for the congregation’s words; I gather the translation of the priest’s part is a significant change, however. But our priest seemed to weather it just fine.
We noticed some folks who reflexively said, “And also with you,” but more said the now appropriate “And with your spirit.” Father missed a beat in a few places, but he isn’t feeling well at the moment. Otherwise it was fine. This is from last night’s vigil Mass, which is sometimes better for the younger three (6,6,& 5).
The new Mass finds it impossible to say in one word what it can in three, and uses the vernacular, only that of the theologian. I doubt I ever have used the word “consubstantial” in conversation polite or otherwise, nor in Brother Noonan’s religion class.
I see this as more make-work for liturgists. Here’s a thought; let’s go back to the pre-Vatican II liturgy to restore some actual joy and power to the Mass.
We went to see my MIL in a home yesterday. So we were two hours away from our home parish.
The Priest at the parish we attended was a veritable drama queen about how hard “HE” had to work to celebrate the new translation. He told us many times about it, including begging for applause at the end.
He was still winging it through the Kyrie, saying “Lord Jesus, you are the chosen peacemaker. Lord have mercy.” and he messed up the words to the offertory, but I can’t remember what he said.
All in all, the people were receptive. Being the first week, there were still a lot of “And also with you.” being heard, but everyone was putting in an effort.
Now, here is the question. I’ve attended two parishes in my home Diocese. In the guide, it instructed us to strike our breast during “through my fault....” and to bow during “and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary.....”. Yesterday, no gesture instructions were given at the parish we attended yesterday.
Are the gestures supposed to be there or not?
I think it is a mess. I read the new responses for the past several weeks and didn’t like them. Today Mass was a mess and the responses were worse than just reading them. I look at it somewhat as receiving new product instuctions that were originally written in chinese and then translated into english by some guy in Egypt. Absolutely no flow and not well translated.
Went to 6 pm Mass. That is normally the “teen” Mass where most of the positions, except the readers, are from the teens, including the music. The mas was heavily attended, and there were no problems. Of course people my age found the “new” language very familiar because a lot of it is a translation directly from the old Latin. e slipped a coule of time, but Father took us back through it. He just beamed as we SHOUTED “And with your spirit!”
I don’t know why people are complaining. (I heard a guy on the radio complaining this afternoon.)