Posted on 11/26/2011 3:33:54 PM PST by Iggles Phan
My problem with the 'Rapture' (pre-millenial; pre-tribulation) teaching is that it forces its adherents to actually REVERSE the Person of Jesus Christ to the Devil.
That's correct.
In the 'Rapture' (or Dispensational) scheme the believer is asked to take the Person of Daniel's 70th Week (Who is Jesus Christ at the Cross) described in Chapter 9, verse 27a:
"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, ..."
... and reverse this 'he' to mean a 'future Antichrist'.
Are you confused?
Is this Jesus Christ or Antichrist?
1. The Historic View.
This view is typified by the 1599 Geneva Bible notes. These are the notes of John Calvin, Miles Coverdale, and John Knox to name a few.
1599 Geneva Bible Notes on Daniel 9:27a:
"By the preaching of the gospel he confirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection."
It's pretty clear that the Reformers believed that Christ was the Person of Daniel's Great 70th Week.
2. The Modernist View (Dispensational).
In contrast however, compare this historic view to the Dispensational view typified in the Ryrie Study Notes (1978). Look who the modernists assign to this very same Person in Daniel 9:27a:
"The prince of verse 26, the Antichrist previously introduced in 7:8, 24-26, who will make a pact with many (of the Jewish people) at the beginning of the tribulation period. But in the middle of the week (i.e., 3 1/2 years later) Antichrist will break his covenant and desecrate the Temple by demanding worship of himself in it."
The difference couldn't be farther apart.
Historic Christianity says that Jesus fulfilled the 70th week AT THE CROSS, but Rapture Christianity (Dispensationalism) says that the Devil fulfills it in a 're-built' temple.
Therefore, Dispensationalism is no less than a frontal assault on the Cross of Christ. It reverses Jesus Christ to the Devil. It is malicious and a pernicious doctrine.
Remember, this Dispensational view was NEVER known until 1830. That's why it is a Modernist view. It was invented by JN Darby and popularized by CI Scofield, two con-men to Christianity.
In the 20th century, carpetbaggers such as Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, Jack (and Rexella) Van Impe, John Hagee and others have made fame and fortune off of this con game. They have marketed this 'Rapture' theology like a cheap box of laundry detergent on TV and radio, and with videos and books.
My hope and prayer is that the Church starts to wake up out of its slumber and starts challenging its pastors, ministries, and teachers. The Cross of Christ is at stake here!
For the Glory of Christ Jesus. Amen.
INDEED.
INDEED.
WELL PUT.
THX.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
I think that’s an astute observation.
Do you have a link for that JD sermon?
LUB BRO
...I find it amusing that you have that much spare time. Bravo!
...Ad mod>Post patrol. Have you been deputized or are you making a citizens arrest?
I dunno. Maybe because someone IS a banned partial-pre replacementarian retread.....
I 'believe' that many of us will see the 'end' in a car wreck, and all the guessing we've made until then will have proven fruitless.
Now, with that said, can we get back to the dancing angels conundrum?
;^)
Well, we’re going to know after the fact who was right.
The best thing is to be prepared for all contingencies.
If we’re walking in Christ as we ought, then no matter what happens we’re good.
Personally, I’d PREFER the pre-trib rapture scenario. Sounds like the most fun. But what I want does not dictate God’s actions.
The best thing Satan can do is convince everyone that it’s not going to happen and that there is no anti-Christ or devil.
Confusion is one of his best strategies.
Worth repeating.
The best thing Satan can do is convince everyone that it’s not going to happen and that there is no anti-Christ or devil.
Confusion is one of his best strategies.
YUP. And the RCC Catechism & Magisterical are two of the best examples of such thick layers of confusion.
These are people who are doomed if the Bible is true. So they either have to deny it repeatedly to try to convince themselves that they have nothing to worry about, or make up some XBox video fantasy of what is "going to happen" that has absolutely no basis in Scripture.
If you have about a half hour free sometime, here is a message that proves that the denial of the Rapture, which is exactly what the OP is doing, is a major sign of Christ's return. Fulfilled prophecy happening on FreeRepublic - who woulda thought it?
Yes, definitely search the Scriptures - and if you find anything that supports a post-Trib Rapture, will you please FReepmail it to me?
Go ahead and tell us all - does the Bible contradict itself? Because if you're going to cling to the false claim about the verse you posted after you were proven wrong, you're stating that not only does the passage contradict the Rapture Scripture in 1 Thessalonians, but all the other Rapture Scripture that God gave us, a little of which I listed for you. So tell us - does God contradict Himself, or are you and your inability to understand what He wrote the problem?
My advice to you is to repent of your denial of the word of God. So far, my "dispensationalism" of taking Scripture literally is actually occurring in the world, just like Christ said it would. I have no worries and no concerns at all about my theology.
Like I told you before, your lame use of the word "dispensationalism" to try to hide your contempt and denial of Scripture is fooling no one. You have not been able to validate anything you have claimed with Scripture.
My advice to you is to do some major repenting yourself and come to Christ for salvation before it's too late.
He has no excuse.
Very well said, Lera!!
He has had several chances to correct any misunderstandings and several times he has reiterated his denial of the Biblical doctrine of the Rapture.
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