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To: BenKenobi

Where did Jesus quote from Maccabees?


116 posted on 10/27/2011 3:09:27 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo; BenKenobi
The Deuterocanonical books are quoted in the New Testament: Matt. 24:15 - the "desolating sacrilege" Jesus refers to is also taken from 1 Macc. 1:54 and 2 Macc. 8:17.

Matt. 24:16 - let those "flee to the mountains" is taken from 1 Macc. 2:28.

John 10:22 - the identification of the feast of the dedication is taken from 1 Macc. 4:59.

John 10:36 – Jesus accepts the inspiration of Maccabees as He analogizes the Hanukkah consecration to His own consecration to the Father in 1 Macc. 4:36.

Acts 1:15 - Luke's reference to the 120 may be a reference to 1 Macc. 3:55 - leaders of tens / restoration of the twelve.

For more go to Deuterocanonical books in the New Testament

120 posted on 10/27/2011 9:41:31 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Theo; BenKenobi
When we read Chapter 1 and Chapter 2 of 1 Maccabees, we read how Antiochus defiled the Holy Temple and put an abomination in there and the righteous Jews fled to the mountains.

And this connects with Matthew 24:15-20
[15] When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.
[16] Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains:
[17] And he that is on the housetop, let him not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] And he that is in the field, let him not go back to take his coat.
[19] And woe to them that are with child, and that give suck in those days.
[20] But pray that your flight be not in the winter, or on the sabbath.
And you see the parallels in 1 Macc 1.34 "And they took the women captive, and the children, and the cattle they possessed" and 39 "And they shed innocent blood round about the sanctuary, and defiled the holy place"
and 1 MAcc 2:32-38
And forthwith they went out towards them, and made war against them on the sabbath day, [33] And they said to them: Do you still resist? come forth, and do according to the edict of king Antiochus, and you shall live. [34] And they said: We will not come forth, neither will we obey the king's edict, to profane the sabbath day.
[35] And they made haste to give them battle.
[36] But they answered them not, neither did they cast a stone at them, nor stopped up the secret places,
[37] Saying: Let us all die in our innocency: and heaven and earth shall be witnesses for us, that you put us to death wrongfully.
[38] So they gave them battle on the sabbath: and they were slain with their wives, and their children, and their cattle, to the number of a thousand persons


Jesus was no doubt drawing on the historical memory of the Jews
121 posted on 10/27/2011 9:44:59 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Theo; BenKenobi
And, if the condition is "did Jesus quote from an OT book" that qualifies or disqualifies an OT book, then does that philosophy also disregard Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Song of Solomon, Lamentations, Obadiah, Nahum and Zephaniah?

Forget about Jesus not quoting them, these are not quoted at all in the NT

Yet we in orthodoxy hold them as sacred too

122 posted on 10/27/2011 9:50:06 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Theo; BenKenobi
And, if the condition is "did Jesus quote from an OT book" that qualifies or disqualifies an OT book, then does that philosophy also disregard Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Song of Solomon, Lamentations, Obadiah, Nahum and Zephaniah?

Forget about Jesus not quoting them, these are not quoted at all in the NT

Yet we in orthodoxy hold them as sacred too

And lets go further -- some books like Hagai, Habbakuk, Amos, Joel don't fit in this narrow definition of "only if Jesus quoted it is the OT book valid".

123 posted on 10/27/2011 9:52:02 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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