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Excellent, educational, enlightening article. There is a diagram at the link.
1 posted on 10/19/2011 2:40:08 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Well that's just 'Wanderful'...


2 posted on 10/19/2011 2:54:18 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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Pop the popcorn...this should be another interesting thread.

How about letting True Jews say who is a True Jew?

A True Jew is a Jew who is A) Born of a Jewish Mother and B) Holds fast to the Torah, writings and prophets, passed down from Moses to now.

Gentile Christians should not hold fast to being the seed of Abraham but Noah. Noah was given a covenant for all mankind. Abraham, Issac and Jacob etc...were given the covenant for Jews.

3 posted on 10/19/2011 2:59:41 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

This is hilarious. A protestant prophwxy blog derining “Jew”

No true Jew would take this idiocy seriously.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 2:59:50 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
I have been taught that a Jew is from the tribe of Judah. The rest are Israelites.
10 posted on 10/19/2011 3:28:22 PM PDT by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

“Excellent, educational, enlightening”..

I say!

and add,,,,,

Insightful, illuminating, informative..

And the diagram!!!!!!!

A perfect manifestation of the reason why we are all here at FreeRepublic,

I must say


12 posted on 10/19/2011 3:40:34 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

According to Genesis, a true Jew is anyone who is descended from the tribe of Judah. Everyone else from the other tribes are israelites.


13 posted on 10/19/2011 3:40:43 PM PDT by rabidralph
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Thanks for posting this. Gentiles are NEVER going to be Jews. Not literally, not spiritually. As much as some would like to believe they are spiritual Israel, they fool themselves. God made no covenants of promise with us. That is why the dispensation of the grace of God is so wonderful. His offer of reconciliation through the finished work of Christ took down the middle wall of partition that separated Jews from Gentiles. And declared us equal before Him. But this time isn’t forever. It will come to an end. And the middle wall of partition will be back up. God will once again be dealing with Israel as a Nation, the promises He made to them will be fulfilled, and Gentiles will be blessed through Israel, just as God promised Abraham.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 3:50:33 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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why do you keep denying Scripture?

Romans 2:28-29

For he is not a real Jew who is one outwardly, nor is true circumcision something external and physical. He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal. His praise is not from men but from God.

why do you keep denying Scripture?


17 posted on 10/19/2011 4:33:06 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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Once again “Adam”(carnal flesh) tries to explain something their heart can not comprehend because what they write does not come from the heart but the carnal mind.

Who are the Jews? YHVH tells us directly who they are

Jeremiah 31:31 [ The New Covenant that is ratified in the NT ] “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah

Gentile = goyim = nations = out of covenant

The house of Isra’el(Ephraim, out of covenant thus are called gentiles) that was scattered never came back from Syria after captivity. They would become gentiles because they would follow the ways of the pagans but always would have Torah in their heart and why they were drawn to follow certain Torah instructions, i.e. Sabbath worship behind the 3ft wall of separation. It is why so many were baptized back into the covenant during the 1st century.

Amos 9:9 “ For surely I will command, And will sift the house of Israel among all nations"

melo-ha-goyim = mutitude of gentiles/nations

Genesis 48:19 But his(Joseph) father refused and said, “I know, my son, I know. He(Manasseh) also shall become a people, and he also shall be great; but truly his younger brother(Ephraim) shall be greater than he, and his descendants shall become a multitude of nations.”

The house of Judah(Jews) came back after captivity in Babylon and have since preserved the integrity of YHVH’s Words(the Torah & the writings of the Prophets) in written form but in practice, not so much(Talmud-oral law added to by the carnal flesh)

The warning Paul was giving to the ecclesia in Philippi was not to fall back into the burdens(yokes) of the oral law of the rabbinical Talmud that said salvation only comes after circumcision and these Rabbis kept track of every person they baptized as a sort of honor to themselves as to their works. Pagans were never part of the covenant, but they have always been welcome should they chose YHVH and say "I Do" to HIS Torah marriage contract which is Torah.

Does Torah say all males are to be circumcised, yes. Is it required for salvation, NO! Circumcision of the heart is accepting Torah and then as one learns, they start doing what YHVH commands them to do. It is not an overnight conversion in which everything is revealed at one time. YHVH is very patient with HIS children in order that they not stumble, but if they do, HIS grace has always been there to pick them up and get them back on the right path.

21 posted on 10/19/2011 4:48:02 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Consider that the word “Jew” is the English transliteration
of Hebrew Y˒hudi, from the root “yadah,” which means
“to give thanks, to praise, to confess openly and freely.”
To be a true Jew is to be someone who gives thanks to God,
praises God, and confesses God, his Word, his truth
and his love, openly and freely, who is in a close
relationship with him
Stern, D. H. (1996, c1992). Jewish New Testament Commentary
: A companion volume to the Jewish New Testament (electronic
ed.) (Lk 15:15). Clarksville: Jewish New Testament Publications.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

37 posted on 10/19/2011 6:54:59 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: patlin
who is a true Jew?



Oy vey!

Love Mel Brooks!

51 posted on 10/19/2011 11:38:26 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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Swell thread, GN. Thanks a lot for posting.

s, ¨I thought you might find this interesting¨ ping....


124 posted on 10/21/2011 7:49:55 PM PDT by onedoug (lf)
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