Posted on 10/13/2011 5:52:58 PM PDT by Gamecock
I subscribe to a Mormon apologetic Newsletter titled FAIR (Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research).
Normally it falls into my junk email account and I don't even open it, but today I had a few minutes and scanned the latest offering and was stunned to see the hypocrisy of the authors. Please note the entire email is posted below.
This particular issue has a great deal of whining about those mean Christians who make the spurious claim that Mormons are not Christians, but are a cult.
A couple of examples:
-"Mormons are a cult" epithets into the national spotlight. In his "On Faith" commentary this week, Church Public Affairs managing director Michael Otterson suggests why people make such claims and shares his own experience of being labeled not Christian.
Calling Mormonism a cult is old hat, and the voters are yawning.
-Texas Gov. Rick Perry's minister ally Robert Jeffress might think Mitt Romney's church is a cult, but a new documentary on the presidency and Mormonism suggests that Romney could snag the nation's top job despite the religious feud between Christians.
-....the "cult" of Mormonism means that you raise a solid family, work hard, make money and do good for the greater community of mankind, then by all means pass the Kool-Aid.
-It seems just too petty and small for a country as big as America to have. America, as a melting pot of many cultures and many beliefs, is supposed to be more tolerant of differences.
-Another woman in Texas remembers that her LDS congregation was banned from participating in a community-wide Christmas event and that non-Church members once barged into Sunday meetings shouting that Mormons were cult members and devil worshippers.
The reader will note, when comparing the above quotes with the below article, that the quotes originate from the MSM. Why would the MSM, a known enemy of Christianity, care if Christians consider Mormons a cult or not? I suggest that these quotes are really more of an attack on Christianity than some deep concern for Mormons. Notice how when Mormons talk family values the press fawns over them. When Christians do the same we are are intolerant of other lifestyles.
That being said, consider the above quotes. Christians who deny Mormons mainstream status are bigoted, intolerant, etc. But ask your self this: are Mormons not intolerant when they make the following claim: that Joseph Smith unearthed a book of golden plates from a New York hillside in 1827 with the help of an angel and translated hieroglyphics that detailed the true Christian faith.
So Mormons don't want to be Christians, but rather the "true Christian faith." Isn't that just a bit intolerant?
I suspect what is really going on here is that in reality the MSM sees Romney as a palatable Republican. They don't really care about Mormons, but are afraid of Cain and Perry.
Take a few minutes and scan the below and see what other nuggets jump out at you. There are more than a couple.
Oh, I no longer get either Mormons or Jehovah’s Witnesses. I think they’ve put a mark on my door or something. The last few times they did come by, I came out on the doorstep and courteously preached Orthodox Christianity to them, pointing out the errors of their respective confessions as I did so.
They went away with the oddest expressions on their faces.
I strongly suggest the method, whatever confession of Christianity (or non-Christian religion) you adhere to: just preach to them when they turn up and after a while, they stop.
How is it anti-Christian? They prosyletize, but so do Catholics and Protestants.
When was the last time the Mormons made statements disparaging any Christian faith or committing acts against any Christian faith?
That said, Mormon or no Mormon, MITT ROMNEY is a loser. And if that "conservative" talk radio freak from Boston, Jay Severin thinks that "Romney is the most conservative electable candidate out there", hence we NEED to vote for him, then Jay Severin is also one of those old school establishment freaks who cannot see that America has changed, and changed radically. Hence, the RULES have to change radically as well. Why Romney??? He developed the very prototype of Obamacare and rammed it down the throats of people from Massachusetts. No health plan? Then get fined, or go to jail. And Severin says that Romney "is a constitutionalist". America has never been in such dire straits before, this is a new kind of political warfare we fight in America, because there is a definate spiritual aspect to it. If people can't see that, then they become stuck in 'old school' politics, and often dig up quotes from traditional conservative leaders like Buckley. But even Buckley would change his views could he see what's going on in the US today. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OVER PEOPLE. THE FIGHT ISN'T A DEFENSIVE ONE ANYMORE, AMERICA HAS LOST TO THE COMMUNISTS. WE MUST NOW FIGHT ON THE BOLD POLITICAL OFFENSIVE. NO MORE "VOTE FOR THE LESSER OF THE TWO EVILS". That tactic has finally won the day for evil, because that tactic would eventually just make all the candidates "evil", leaving us to have to talk to a moral theologian to figger out whom to vote for.
So screw you Jay, you pussy hound freak, I hope Rush dumps you from his station faster than you can say: "Jay Severin got fired,.... A-G-A-I-N, for his massive STUPIDITY.
“When was the last time the Mormons made statements disparaging any Christian faith or committing acts against any Christian faith? “
The foundation of moronism is Joseph Smith’s false claim that angels told him every Christian Church is false.
It continues to promote that message today - 24 hours a day - around the world - using 50,000 “missionaries”
to tell all Christians, of every kind that their Church is wrong, their Bible is falsely translated, etc.
Every day. All day. Every Christian Church. Worldwide.
Mormons rarely if even have any great intellects (nobel laureates; philosophers; sculptors; painters; astronomers, poets; writers; theologians; authors; statesmen; or historians) of any note who embrace this religion. It is a belief system no different from Islam except the former is civilized and the latter barbaric.
I'd like to see some proof that that happened.
By all means Mormons, stress how "good" you are and see how far that gets you. No amount of "good" is going to get anyone in Heaven or make one worthy of God's Grace.
If being "good" were the qualifier to get into Heaven, only dogs would go there.
Now we are suppose to look for similarities, not our differences. . . . . . /s
He can hang a mercedes-benz symbol around his neck - that won't make him a car.
The Catholic Church is an ongoing nightmare of corruption, pagan ritual and kowtowing to an imperfect human agent.
At least some folks believe one or both of these statements. Yet somehow most Protestants are not anti-Catholic and most Catholics are not anti-Protestants.
It seems that only people that are aggressively anti-Mormon are evangelical Protestants who have just as many problems with their interpretations of scripture as the Mormons, the biggest one of all being their claim that their beliefs require absolutely no interpretations.
He might get a few votes from the hip-hop crowd, though.
Every time the missionaries tell the prospective convert that their church (and Christianity in general) is apostate and the only true church is mormon.
I'd like to know how many archeologists that are Mormon. Its got to be frustrating not finding any evidence to corroborate the book of Mormon.
The fact that the LDS leadership (most if not all) is aware of the problems in their history, teachings, and doctrines and the evidence against it, yet rather than adress those issues or admit problems, they whitewash, cover up and flat out lie to the membership makes it lies, not just ‘research’.
I spent almost a year, nearly full time, researching Mormonism trying to prove the ‘anti-Mormons wrong, I even had access through a professor at BYU (who was the son of the then LDS prophet) to resources that are not that common and difficult to obtain access to in SLC. What I discovered was the ‘antis’ weren’t the ones lying, the LDS leaders were, the LDS ‘apologists’ were.
Also, the membership lies (both by omission and comission) about their beliefs, teachings and history. The more obscure things, much of the Membership (esp outside the LDS) is unaware of (like that Pratt taught vegetables have spirits or we forgot the pre-existence because our spirits were compressed when we were born), but many of the more outrageous doctrines (God had sex with Mary, Jesus was married and probably a polygamist, we can become Gods, Christ only died so we could be resurrected - not to pay for sins, God lives near a planet called Kolob, Christian churches are the ‘whore of babylon’, Jesus and Lucifer are sprit brothers (first and second born) and Lucifer also applied to be the Savior, the LDS temple apron that they wear represents the priesthood of Lucifer) are common and accepted beliefs of LDS.
Then the Catholics are anti-Christian for telling people that the Protestants are heretics, and Protestants are anti-Christian for telling people that Catholics are pagans.
I guess that means most Christians are anti-Christian.
So maybe the Mormons are also Christian because they are also anti-Christian just like all the other Christians.
If Romney gets the nomination it will be the first time we have a guy running that thinks he is going to be a God versus one that already thinks he is one.
Hilarious!
“Good ol’ Christian tribalism:
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Certainly that is Mormonism, but they aren’t Christians.
All Christian churches agree on the basics, including the person work and nature of Jesus Christ. Mormons however, not only reject the basics, they twist them into forms no Christian would recognize or accept if they understand how the LDS redefine basic words (God, Saved, Heaven, Hell, Grace).
And the LDS are aware they have different terms, yet word things specifically to deceive Christians.
I think that you may be missing the larger point that the more exposure this debate gives to people about the LDS church, whether critical commentary or not, will inevitably lead to more LDS church investigators and an accelerated growth rate for the church. Increased opposition leads to faster growth. Go figure.
So, a special thanks to you and your ping list for doing your part.
At the same time, I must agree with you, however, that Romney is a RINO unworthy of nomination.
I invite them over for dinner, LDS missionaries are notoriously hungry. That way they set aside a whole evening for you and they are too polite to leave.
I never let them pray, rather I respond with ‘good idea’ and either my husband or I pray instead. We discuss and debate and at the end of the evening, when they get to giving their “LDS testimony” I respond with my testimony countering each of their points.
After the last time I did this, they crossed on the other side of the street rather than walk past our house for almost 3 years.
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