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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow

Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.

But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.

“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.

“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”

Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.

But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.

“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”

It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; islam; keithellison; muslim
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To: Cronos
That brings to mind something concerning that happened about a year or so ago...

I work in a super-max prison where all of the various religions that inmates belong to on any given day (mostly dependent on what kind of food each religious group is entitled to) have the "right" to have a chaplain, pastor, priest, imam, rabbi, shaman, or whatever, in the prison to attend to their "religious" needs.

Most of the clergy are there part-time, but the prison imam is there full-time. This particular imam is from Egypt. He's just the nicest, funniest, friendly guy you'd ever want to meet.

One day, I went over to use the copier, and the imam had finished using it just before I got there. I lifted the top of the copier to use it and there was a sheet of paper on the glass that was a drawing of a black man behind bars with blood dripping from both the bars and the man and a long article underneath the drawing titled "The Continuing Oppression of the Black Man in America".

I took it out and left it face-up on the table in the copier room. Maybe I should have taken it to someone, but would I still have a job now if I did? That imam can do no wrong in the place where I work.

I don't ever want to hear from anyone that these people (Muslims) aren't over here working from within to destroy this nation and transform it into another 9th century hellhole. There is a room in the prison that is designated a "mosque", which, incidentally, is off-limits to women, which is sound-proof. This guy can be telling the inmates who he has converted anything at all and no one would know. And many of these inmates eventually get released from prison.

581 posted on 09/05/2011 8:57:42 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking...." (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: MarkBsnr
>>Paul was sent to teach and preach with the authority of God. The others did not have the authority to teach anything else other than what the Church taught.<<

Huh??? You mean the other Apostles had no authority directly from Jesus? Even Peter? >>2 Thessalonians 2: 15Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.<<

Yeah, I’m sure they just forgot to inform us of the ascension of Mary and Jesus forgot to tell us that Mary was the alternative way to “go to the Father”. Then there are the differences before and after Vatican II.

>> You don't to make it all up as you go along.<<

That’s right, and would be the reason I insist everything be proven in scripture unlike the RCC which “makes things up as they go along”.

582 posted on 09/05/2011 8:57:42 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Religion Moderator
False claims, ridicule, spitwads and so on are to be expected in the town square format of "open" Religion Forum threads.

I think I'll quote you next time I see one.

583 posted on 09/05/2011 8:59:03 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: MarkBsnr; CynicalBear

Mark, just remember, according to the RM: False claims, ridicule, spitwads and so on are to be expected in the town square format of “open” Religion Forum threads.

QED


584 posted on 09/05/2011 9:00:39 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: All



~ PRAYER ~

St. Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle
 Be our protection against the wickedness
and snares of the devil;
May God rebuke him, we  humbly pray,
 and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
 by the power of God,
 Cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits
who prowl through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
 Amen
+

585 posted on 09/05/2011 9:00:51 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Iscool
When you come up with a picture of Benny Hinn kissing a Koran in the presence of a terrorist, get back with me...

According to the RM, False claims, ridicule, spitwads and so on are to be expected in the town square format of "open" Religion Forum threads.

586 posted on 09/05/2011 9:02:36 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Avalon Hussar
"I don't see Mary's name in there, so she can't be a co-redeemer now can she? Venerate her for her part in bringing Christ into the world, but don't worship her."

The ignorance of Catholic doctrine expressed on these threads is truly breathtaking in it's scope. Catholic doctrine and the Catechism is very clear that we have one redeemer and mediator; Jesus Christ. The words co-redeemer and mediatrix do not appear in the Catechism, although they do appear frequently in anti-Catholic publications and comic books by authors we are not permitted to name in this Forum.

Co-Redeemer does not mean that Mary is a "co-equal" participant. It is an acknowledgment that she cooperated in our salvation by agreeing to be the vessel through which Jesus and our salvation passed. Catholics acknowledge that Mary most perfectly embodies the obedience of faith in a way we should emulate.

587 posted on 09/05/2011 9:02:58 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: Cronos
is Benny just a "strange fish" or does he propagate "unbiblical stuff straight from hell" like his 9 gods theorem?


588 posted on 09/05/2011 9:04:14 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; xzins

Interesting scenario.

Do they have a chapel where a priest can celebrate Mass for the Catholic inmates?

Do they have another chapel where a pastor can give a sermon to a group of inmates?

Certainly doesn’t sound like equal treatment to me.

Pinging xzins, a former chaplain


589 posted on 09/05/2011 9:05:54 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: bkaycee
there are many "Christians" who are not Trinitarian. Oneness Pentecostals, Mormons and Jehovahs' Witnesses are some of the "Christian" groups that do not believe in the Trinity.

Those groups are hardly "Christian".

Mormons are polytheists, Jehovahs W's are Neo Arians, Ones groups are Modalists, I believe.

Very good, I agree with your list, by the way, but would expand the heretical content of each of these. However that does not matter within the context of this post.

Does your list stop here?

590 posted on 09/05/2011 9:09:31 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: Judith Anne
>>I also stated that when I am asked, I witness to my faith. Did you miss that?<<

Nope, didn’t miss that. That was shortly before you told me to go first and see if “I keep my job” because obviously witnessing for Christ would risk my job.

>>Point out the post where I said I fear being a witness for Christ if there is the possibility of a negative consequence.<<

That would be when you said “You first. And let us know, because we want to see you get fired.” Where you obviously thought I would get fired (ie negative consequence) if I were to witness for Christ. I’ll wait for your spin which I’m sure is coming.

591 posted on 09/05/2011 9:09:35 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: MarkBsnr

LOl! The origin of the word simony.


592 posted on 09/05/2011 9:11:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Cronos; Quix
Quixo -- doesn't your group also advocate The Bible Code website by the guy who revealed that he believed the Scriptures to be messages from a race of space aliens?

Are you still Coast-to-Coasting, Quix? Space aliens gave us Scripture? Where? When? Where is the documentation?

593 posted on 09/05/2011 9:12:05 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: CynicalBear; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

“No replies.” = No surprise.

You are absolutely right. There is nothing left to say to someone who denigrates Scripture like that. If someone doesn’t recognize the absolute authority of Scripture, they cannot be reasoned with.


594 posted on 09/05/2011 9:12:36 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Cronos

Who cares what Benny Hinn has to say?

He speaks for himself, not all of Protestantism.

That’s something that Catholics cannot seem to comprehend, what with their being used to having their clergy think for them and speak for them.


595 posted on 09/05/2011 9:14:14 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Salvation
Do they have a chapel where a priest can celebrate Mass for the Catholic inmates?

Do they have another chapel where a pastor can give a sermon to a group of inmates?

Yes, they have both of those and women are not barred from either. The thing is, all the rooms for religious accommodation are taxpayer supported.

596 posted on 09/05/2011 9:14:38 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking...." (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: Alex Murphy

No, it doesn’t count.


597 posted on 09/05/2011 9:15:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Religion Moderator
"False claims, ridicule, spitwads and so on are to be expected in the town square format of "open" Religion Forum threads."

Does this apply equally to overly sensitive FReepers with food allergies?

598 posted on 09/05/2011 9:15:57 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: smvoice
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

599 posted on 09/05/2011 9:16:41 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Iscool
If you want to find the way to Jesus, call a Protestant

You mean like this guy? From what I understand, he knew the Bible way better than you guys do.


600 posted on 09/05/2011 9:17:07 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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