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Growing number of Catholics push for return to Latin Mass (Catholic Caucus)
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | 08/23/2011 | Doug Erickson

Posted on 08/24/2011 7:22:37 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Ellie Arkin doesn't speak Latin, so upon entering Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in Madison on a recent Sunday, the 21-year-old UW-Madison student opened a Latin-to-English translation book provided by the church.

For the next hour, she and many of the other parishioners followed along in the book as the Mass unfolded mostly in Latin....

Latin Mass, also known as the Tridentine Mass, is distinguished by more than language. The priest faces the altar, which traditionally faced East, the direction from which Catholics believe Christ will return.

This means the priest has his back to the people, which traditionalists view as appropriate, like a general leading his troops....

In the Madison diocese, parishioners petitioned Bishop Robert Morlino to restore Latin Mass in 2006. Morlino, a strong supporter, led a Latin Mass in December 2007. It was the first official Latin Mass in the diocese since 1969.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; latinmass; mass; tridentine
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This is a very well written article.
1 posted on 08/24/2011 7:22:43 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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Catholic ping!


2 posted on 08/24/2011 7:23:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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This Catholic is in favor of a return to the Tridentine Mass.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
3 posted on 08/24/2011 7:28:37 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Pyro7480

I think the suggestion of somehow combining the two masses is wishful thinking on the part of the author. In the final analysis, the Latin mass *is* the mass; mass in other languages is less sacramental, felt by many to be more like “Bible study” than a sacred experience.

Granted, there can be much value in Bible study. But the purpose of the priesthood is for there to be a studied and chaste spokesman for the congregation.


4 posted on 08/24/2011 7:31:27 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Pyro7480

We’ve had a Latin Mass weekly at our Cathedral parish for a couple of years. It is only very lightly attended.


5 posted on 08/24/2011 7:37:18 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Pyro7480
In the Madison diocese, parishioners petitioned Bishop Robert Morlino to restore Latin Mass in 2006. Morlino, a strong supporter, led a Latin Mass in December 2007. It was the first official Latin Mass in the diocese since 1969.

Not true. Fr. Kunz offered the Latin Mass for years at St. Michael's in Dane, Wisconsin, under the Latin Mass Indult. Fr. Kunz was brutally murdered on the church's property in an unsolved murder. Fr. Kunz was very vocal in defense of life and Christian values regarding marriage. He was a hero.
6 posted on 08/24/2011 7:44:07 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (It's fun to play with your vision, but don't ever play with your eyes.-1970's PSA)
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"We’ve had a Latin Mass weekly at our Cathedral parish for a couple of years. It is only very lightly attended."

I'm basing this on your username...but isn't that because your state is also lightly attended?
7 posted on 08/24/2011 7:47:32 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Pyro7480

First the church needs to completely rid itself of all Pediphiles and child molesters disguised as members of the clergy. Second, stay the hell out of politics especially the promoting of amnesty for Illegal Aleins. Next get the rock bands out of the mass and fourth, return to the traditions of the church prior to Vatican II


8 posted on 08/24/2011 7:50:29 AM PDT by rjsclassics (bringing people together)
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To: Last Dakotan

Most people, not speaking Latin, will shy away from it I imagine. I am not a Catholic but I like to think that if I were, and my church decided to hold a Latin mass, I’d at least check it out. Not saying I’d prefer something that I do not understand to somethign that I do, but I like to try new things.


9 posted on 08/24/2011 7:50:55 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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...but isn't that because your state is also lightly attended?

Hehe. Well, I was comparing it to the attendance at the other Masses.

My overall observation is that when it comes to Latin Masses people don't put their knees where their mouths are.

10 posted on 08/24/2011 7:55:27 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: rjsclassics; moder_ator

rjsclassics, are you Catholic, actively? Or not?


11 posted on 08/24/2011 7:56:40 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Pyro7480

Very few recently ordained priests even know how to say the Latin Mass.


12 posted on 08/24/2011 7:57:43 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Indeed, well written. I look forward to those Sundays when I am able to attend a TLM in a nearby city. I wish that my own parish had one, but, all told, there are perhaps 400-450 parishioners. I wholly agree with those who espouse a return to the Tridentine Latin Mass. No offense to those who prefer the Novus Ordo. I love the Latin Mass.


13 posted on 08/24/2011 8:01:13 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: sayuncledave

From now on all catholic threads are to be posted using Latin. Those who insist on using English and all Heathen Protestants are hereby banned!


14 posted on 08/24/2011 8:05:30 AM PDT by ohiobuckeye1997
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

Boy am I glad I hadn’t started eating yet. Thank you for the chuckle. I’m no expert on Latin, either, though my work ichat currently says “Sum, ergo edo.”

On the other hand, I only asked him because it is a caucus thread. Even asking, I mean no ill will. We all have rules to follow, after all.


15 posted on 08/24/2011 8:09:24 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: ohiobuckeye1997

...Dominus vobiscum, Brother Friend!!!


16 posted on 08/24/2011 8:16:11 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: Pyro7480

BTTT!


17 posted on 08/24/2011 8:40:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Pyro7480

BTTT!


18 posted on 08/24/2011 8:40:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Don Corleone

I think you might be mistaken there. All current seminarians are REQUIRED to know the Celebration of the Mass in Latin.

We had a priest ordained a couple years ago who could say a Novus Ordo Mass as well as a Maronite Mass. — the Maronite Mass contained Hebrew and Aramaic, if I’m not mistaken.


19 posted on 08/24/2011 8:43:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Last Dakotan
It is only very lightly attended.

Very often bishops who hate the Traditional Mass but don't want to be seen as bad guys authorize a "Latin Mass" in a way that sets it up to fail.

Is your cathedral parish's mass in the extraordinary form, or only in the ordinary form but in Latin?

If it's x-form, is it low mass or solemn mass? Low mass is a stripped-down, very austere affair that can be very forbidding and impoverished to newcomers.

Is the mass you mention celebrated on Sunday? What time? A family-friendly time between 8.30 and 11.30 am makes it more likely that larger crowds will come. An untraditional afternoon scheduling is incompatible with other family plans or chores and is especially hard on those who commit themselves to the traditional eucharistic fast beginning at midnight Saturday night.

20 posted on 08/24/2011 8:48:41 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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