The about-to-be-cannonized John Paul II illustrating what the New Catholic Church is all about.
Will some of those same people ask this candidate, whom they seem to agree with on issues, about her affiliation with a Church which espoused Anti-Catholicism? For example, how will Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly, just to name two high profile media personalities, handle this disturbing fact out of Michele Bachmann's very recent past? I hope the answer is "straight on". ...
It just doesn’t matter. The very fraudulant idea that there is a line of succession of popes going back to Peter is repugnant to reality and simply phony according to the catholic encyclopedia and church records.
We (Roman Catholics..NOT CINO’s) and our Protestant brothers and sisters in Christ whether they are Baptists, Methodist, Lutherans, or Presbyterians, may have many differences in scripture.
However, we have way too much in common with our joint views on Pro-Life, Pro Family(homo agenda),anti-liberation Theology creeping into our leadership, government interference disguised as Economic Justice and other issues that makes us natural allies.
IMHO, I’ll lock arms in protest over ending ‘reproductive rights’ or pray with a good Southern Baptist ANY-DAY over a self righteous CINO.
This is just an attempt to divide and conquer. I believe Bachmann has already been questioned about this, anyway, and has said that she regards Catholics as Christians, so obviously she doesn’t agree with her (I believe former) church on this.
And if she has been active in pro-life and pro-adoption matters, she’s probably had a lot of contact with Catholics.
Of course, any Catholic who has seen the anti-Catholic ravings by various Protestants on FR is pretty immune to them; we’re tough!
But aside from that, her attitude couldn’t be worse than that of our pro-Muslim, Christian-hating, pro-abortion, pro-euthanasia, pro-Marxism president.
While everyone with thin skin is re-fighting the Reformation, Obama waltz’s to a second term. Don’t fall for this divide and conquer piece.
As of those people who was and still is disgusted by Obama’s membership in a hate America church, I don’t understand your comparison — assuming your facts are correct.
Was MB affiliated with this church for 20 years?
Is MB still affiliated with this church?
Has MB admitted to being so stupid that she was affiliated with the church for 20 years but never heard what the preacher said?
If the answer to these questions is “yes”, get back to me.
Novus Ordo Catholic. Anti Michelle Bachmann.
I am a Traditional Roman Catholic and I believe Bachmann shouldn’t be attacked by someone who doesn’t understand what the Congresswoman clearly is: another American fed up with the narcissist and his 850 goons who have literally shoved this nation into the same grave as our Constitution.
You have attempted here to paint this candidate as some kind of anti-Catholic, which I think is patently ridiculous. You, one among millions, think it’s okay to change your Church, its rubics and its tenets so radically that it is unrecognizable from a Quaker meeting place. The ‘service’ that passes as a mass differs from parish to parish.
The new Catholic Church stands for very little in this dangerous day and age.
You had best examine the place of worship you attend, then visit a few others to see what has been done to Christ’s Church on earth subsequent to Pope Pius XII. Unfortunately you’d have to possess an understanding of history. After you’ve done this then see if you still feel like attacking Michelle Bachmann.
If you carry out the point of the article writer is trying to make, you find that ANY Protestant “should not get a pass” for just BEING Protestant, which is at its roots anti-Roman Catholic. From the tone of the article, you would think that Mrs. Bachman is running around wearing bed sheets with a matching hood!
This article is EXACTLY the kind of crap that the left wants feeble minds to fall for in an effort to fragment and destroy any opposition.
The about-to-be-cannonized John Paul II illustrating what the New Catholic Church is all about.
Just wait until Palin gets in. We will see 6 of these stories daily. They are probably busying fabricating them now, and putting them in storage.
I am so sick of this crap.
BLACK OPS ALERT!!!
BLACK OPS ALERT!!!
http://www.wels.net/about-wels/doctrinal-statements/antichrist?page=0,5
I will also say that as a member with 3 ministers in my direct family, Bachman is going to have to toe a very fine line. If she disavows doctrinal statements, her church and/or synod can withhold fellowship from her. I know people like her here on FR and I do too, but it is possible she's only electable at a local level where her support base contains a large number of WELS members - as her current base does. This doctrinal statement is not a core belief of the church, but it IS a doctrinal statement so it is important, else it wouldn't exist. This whole thing has been brought up before in earlier races and it fizzled out. I'm praying for her that she can weather the storm the drive-by media is going to unleash.
When the author addresses the Catholic Church’s continued acceptance (or failure to excommunicate) the likes of Kerry, Pelosi, Pfleger, and other Catholics who vote for homosexual marriage, late term abortion, etc... then he can get back to us.
So, a Lutheran group having anti-Catholic teaching and comments that echo Luther in their base statement of faith is to be expected if that statement of faith is on any traditional writings from Luther. I spent thirty years as a Lutheran, admittedly in a different Synod, and never heard preaching against the Catholic Church and especially not anything calling them the seat of the Antichrist and such. For that, you have to get into the Bestselling End Times Rapture Doctrine which got popular starting in the seventies and revived all that old lies about the Catholic Church. People need to forget the "Catholic Antichrist" bologna and realize that the religion of Satan is Islam which has been at war with the Catholic Church as well as all other Christians ever since it was founded by a demon possessed madman around 1400 years ago.
Those who think this is a "disturbing fact" are either in league with those trying to split up Conservative Christians, in league with the sort of liars like Pelosi who pretend they're Catholic but are really humanists, or are just plain ignorant and gullible. One of the greatest fears of the left is that Christians will work together on important issues like abortion, freedom of religion, and halting and repealing the queer agenda. Don't fall for their tricks.
Bachmann must be making more than a few people nervous.
have a nice day
Let’s be honest here, the Catholics as a whole will never support a conservative candidate.
Here in the Chicago area, they overwhelmingly vote D. Never mind you that they overwhelmingly voted for Obama and his 8 month abortions.... now they are concerned about Bachmann’s religion?
I’m sorry, but I grew up Catholic, hard core, in the Archdiocese of Chicago. Served mass as an altar boy under Cardinal Cody at Holy Name Cathedral. Like the Democrat party for which I once belonged to, I did not leave the Catholic Church, they left me.
It was co-opted by liberal priests here in this area, who are more concerned about political power than they are about church doctrine.
Sorry, but you need to clean your own front yard before you start disparaging your neighbors. I was taught that in the OLD Catholic church.
As far as O’Reilly and Hannity, I don’t watch either any more, but I do love their Catholic guests on there who talk about how Republicans are evil and should be excommunicated for their budget restraint.... or did they stop having those sorts of anti-conservative Catholics on the show?
Courting the Catholic vote is akin to courting the Latino or Black vote. To Republicans, 2 in the bush is worth more than 1 in the hand. I apologize, but I have no need for “big tent” politics anymore if it means giving up conservative principles.
the main thing is that this is an attempt by the left to get Catholics and Lutherans to fight and they (the left) hope that this will kill Michele's chances.
Their ploy is obvious and even more obvious is the fact that this is working -- thanks Dr. Thorne, Ib - you've played into the left's hands.
Like fools we take this bait and start fighting when we should remember who is trying to get us to fight -- folks who want us to sit it out while Obambi gets re-elected
That being said, the belief of Peter being the anti-christ was a belief of Martin Luther if I recall correctly.
Accordingly, there are supposedly 3 clues in the bible as to the anti-christ and supposedly, the pope is the only thing that fulfills the three clues.
Anyways, in a WELS church, scant time is spent worrying about other churches as it should be.
“Michele Bachmann Should Not ‘Get a Pass’ on Past Membership in Anti-Catholic Church”
If your church disagrees with my church, then my take on that may be that your church is exhibiting anti-my church bias.
If this is all that any anti-Bachmann agitators have to complain about, then they are grasping at straws.
She went to Rev. Wright’s services, too?
My Lutheran dad voted for your Catholic Kennedy.
And if I used your logic I would never vote for a Catholic since the Roman church is Anti-Protestant.