Does Revelation 21:1 reveal a new earth being made elsewhere after this planet is destroyed?

[Ancient Drive]

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

[Cronos]

you mean, annie, that Leonid Elenin is a real guy? he’s not an angel of God? Or some kind of “ hidden name or code”?

[MarkBsnr]

GOD gave us the gift of prophecy, which you like to twist into *Fortune Telling* The Book of Daniel, the Book of Revelation and the entire bible is based on the promised Messiah, his coming, his ministry, his death and resurrection and his return to this earth.....

How do you know what I prefer to do?

How are you any different than those who stood outside the Ark and laughed and scoffed at Noah? afterall it never had rained on the earth, so I assume they must of thought NOah was out of his mind when he built the ark...In fact I am sure Noah and his family also had some second thoughts when they closed the door to the ark and had to wait 7 days before the rain started. I am sure they questioned themselves or maybe had become doubtful or weary...

Because I do not believe in fairy stories.

Do I know for a fact Comet Elenin is the return of Jesus Christ....NO...However GOD told us to test everything and look for things that might be true or deceptive, just as I never fell for Al Gore’s Glo-bull Warming, becuae I already knew what Jesus said about the *Latter Days* and the weather conditions on earth..

Test everything how? By the standard that you have arrived at through your own efforts? You think that you understand these days? Based upon what? Do you think that Jesus is going to return in the next year or two? If you really believe that, then why is your life not reflecting that?

Jesus return to this earth is not based upon him showing up in Jerusalem, driving a hybrid with an announcement of saying *Hey guys I’m here! It is going to be a super-natural divine cosmic event.

And? This does not support anything of your prior prose.

Read the Baylonian Talmud, one profound event that was the final stumbling block, that sealed the fate of mankind in GOD destroying the world with water, was man marrying thier same gender...

I trust that you are not accusing me of homosexuality.

Speed up to our time.....Jesus said the last days would be just like the Days of Noah....

There is massive flooding in the Midwest and there is drought in the South. You are half right.

It is your choice not to look for the Christ, but I am looking for him and it will be with Comet Elenin, if I am wrong that is fine, because I will still always continue to look for Christ’s return.... (Signs and Seasons)

Look all you wish.

[TaraP]

Thanks for the info annie...

Do I think the Russian Astronomer’s name is Leonid Elenin? No...

Wht does he refuse all interviews about his discovery of this comet?

[TaraP]

You are portraying yourself as a scoffer....otherwise you would of not of referred to the story of Noah as a fairytale...Like I said the people outside of the Ark thought Noah believed in fairytales as well, and you are no different.

If you knew the Bible Scriptures you would not ask me such foolish questions like how do I know the return of Christ is a divine cosmic experience...

Did the Apostles see him after his death and resurrection??? YES...Do you think of Jesus as a Hoodini?

Jesus left there visible sight wrapped in a cloud...

THIS IS A DIVINE COSMIC EVENT.

ACTS 1:11
“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done.

My comment on homosexuality was in regards to the Days of Noah..What were those days like? and how do they refer to our day?
The acceptance of Homosexuality and homosexual marraige.

Matthew 24:37
As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

1 Thessalonians 5:21
Test everything. Hold on to the good.

If you are a Christian, you do not have to believe as I do, but you have no right to mock me for it either...

[MarkBsnr]

You are portraying yourself as a scoffer....otherwise you would of not of referred to the story of Noah as a fairytale...Like I said the people outside of the Ark thought Noah believed in fairytales as well, and you are no different.

I do not believe that Noah was a fairy story. I take the story of Noah very seriously. It is you that I take lightly.

If you knew the Bible Scriptures you would not ask me such foolish questions like how do I know the return of Christ is a divine cosmic experience...

I'm not sure that we both experience the English language in the same fashion.

My comment on homosexuality was in regards to the Days of Noah..What were those days like? and how do they refer to our day? The acceptance of Homosexuality and homosexual marraige.

Hung up on Noah, are we? Why not get hung up on Jesus instead?

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done.

Then what will happen to the idiots amongst us?

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test everything. Hold on to the good.

And reject the idiotic.

If you are a Christian, you do not have to believe as I do, but you have no right to mock me for it either...

If I am a Christian I have to believe as Christians do. If I do not, I am not Christian. I see that I am dealing with a tolerant liberal who believes in latitude of doctrine...

[MarkBsnr]

Well then, I am sure Jesus just spoke to hear himself speak when he said in Luke 21:25 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. Luke 21:26 Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.

Joel 2:31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.

LUKE 21:28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” ****I look up, not sure where you are looking....****

Aren't you mixing your verses up here? At least when I post, I get the consecutive verses together in sequence. I know where I look and it isn't in the mirror at the god that I have created.

[MarkBsnr]

That's not fair, Mark -- the 13 m ball of ice that is the comet Elenin will pass very close to earth in October 2011 -- just 22 million miles away

Facts and reality are unable to deter the delusional among us from their fantasies.

[Lee N. Field]

Do I think the Russian Astronomer’s name is Leonid Elenin? No...

Wht does he refuse all interviews about his discovery of this comet?

That lightgate.com website, frankly, just reeks of Teh Crazy. Not just a few fries short of a Happy Meal, but missing the sandwich and the toy as well. You'll believe that over the website of an organization that has Mr. Elenin on staff? Why?

The proprietor of lightgate.com seems to think awful things will happen in October. I've put in my Google calendar to revisit this thread then. Be there, or be square.

[MarkBsnr]

you mean, annie, that Leonid Elenin is a real guy? he’s not an angel of God? Or some kind of “ hidden name or code”?

You are not sullying your posts with facts or reality or anything are you?

[MarkBsnr]

That lightgate.com website, frankly, just reeks of Teh Crazy. Not just a few fries short of a Happy Meal, but missing the sandwich and the toy as well. You'll believe that over the website of an organization that has Mr. Elenin on staff? Why?

Appreciate the heads up. My antivirus software did not like this site. I wonder why.

The proprietor of lightgate.com seems to think awful things will happen in October. I've put in my Google calendar to revisit this thread then. Be there, or be square.

I don't know about this October, however, I'll check with Las Vegas and I know what side I'll be betting on.

[TaraP]

You don’t know scripture, as I said before if you did then you would not make such foolish comments twoards me...

You are a Laodicean Christian, I am the soul who longs for the LORD and looks for his return....

Jesus is looking for Christians that are on fire for his return, not the ones that mock other christians for there
passion.....

Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD

Hosanna in the Highest...

BTW: Try reading the Book of Matthew it might make you understand what Jesus was talking about when he said the latter days would be like the *Days of Noah*

[TaraP]

And what do you reek of?

You stand in judgement of Christians is only condemning yourself, no one else....

Jesus is your judge.....

You are not mine....

[TaraP]

I am not an idiot nor a liberal....Your comments tell me you are nothing like the Jesus of the Holy Bible....

[TaraP]

the website of an organization that has Mr. Elenin on staff? Why?

Why would I believe his website and his staff????

[MarkBsnr]

You don’t know scripture, as I said before if you did then you would not make such foolish comments twoards me...

Apparently I know it a whole lot better than you do.

You are a Laodicean Christian, I am the soul who longs for the LORD and looks for his return....

I am a Christian who has his Faith handed down from the Apostles from Jesus Hismself. As for what you've posted? I'd rather put my money on a can of Bush beans.

BTW: Try reading the Book of Matthew it might make you understand what Jesus was talking about when he said the latter days would be like the *Days of Noah*

Interesting. I've posted more from Matthew than anybody else on FR that I am aware of. Knock, knock. Is there anybody in there?

[Lee N. Field]

You don’t know scripture, as I said before if you did then you would not make such foolish comments twoards me...

I've never yet seen MarkBsnr reference ancient gnostic sources.

Try reading the Book of Matthew it might make you understand what Jesus was talking about when he said the latter days would be like the *Days of Noah*

Jesus tells us what he means. (And, it's got nothing to do with nephelim conspiracies.)

[editor-surveyor]

2Peter 3 states that the entire universe is to be destroyed.

The New Earth will be of a different character, and not a part of Time/Space which is to be destroyed.

We cannot know the nature of the New Earth because we know nothing of the relm in which it will exist; we have no basis of understanding.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “He has written a book called “Heaven” which is THE book on heaven if you want solid theology.” <<

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No, thanks; I’ll stick with God’s word.

Randy Alcorn’s opinions would not have needed to be written if they agreed with God’s word. The only reason to write a book is to change reality.

[MarkBsnr]

I am not an idiot nor a liberal

You do not present a very strong case.

Your comments tell me you are nothing like the Jesus of the Holy Bible....

Correct. Unlike many of my Reformed friends, I do not claim to be God Almighty; I am the Created and not the Creator.

[MarkBsnr]

You don’t know scripture, as I said before if you did then you would not make such foolish comments twoards me...

I've never yet seen MarkBsnr reference ancient gnostic sources.

And to my recollection I never have.

Try reading the Book of Matthew it might make you understand what Jesus was talking about when he said the latter days would be like the *Days of Noah* Jesus tells us what he means. (And, it's got nothing to do with nephelim conspiracies.)