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To: Elsie
"But until that time; I think I am going to rely on FORGIVENESS for sin."

Yes, but until that time, can't we try NOT to sin. I have tried and it seems impossible, heck it is impossible. There has got to be a way.

I know what He states will be the end all of the system of things, but there HAS to be a way to lesson the burden.

167 posted on 06/21/2011 8:03:23 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: NoGrayZone
Yes, but until that time, can't we try NOT to sin.

Of course!


1 John 2:1
My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

196 posted on 06/22/2011 4:51:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: NoGrayZone
Yes, but until that time, can't we try NOT to sin.

Ha!Ha!!HA!!!HA ha HAAAHAHAHA!!!!!

You've sinned AGAIN!

You are MINE: you may as well GIVE UP!

197 posted on 06/22/2011 4:55:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: NoGrayZone

Sorry to jump in again, but just now reading through the thread.

“I know what He states will be the end all of the system of things, but there HAS to be a way to lesson the burden.”

I Cor. 10:13, “No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.”

This verse gives me comfort when confronted by temptation to sin.


216 posted on 06/22/2011 8:35:56 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: NoGrayZone
Yes, but until that time, can't we try NOT to sin. I have tried and it seems impossible, heck it is impossible. There has got to be a way.

it's not impossible -- we can always try! I try every day and I fail every day, but God picks me up. I confess my sins and in the sacrament of repentance I remember these and focus on my life and my sins and remember how small I am, how much I need God's love and grace and forgiveness. And I beg for forgiveness

For nearly a year after moving to Poland I didn't go for confession as I made the excuse that I didn't know Polish so I wouldn't understand the priest and he wouldn't understand me. I prayed daily, sometimes more, mostly less. I confessed my sins privately and begged forgiveness

yet, when I went to confession last Easter (to an American Dominican priest in Prague of all places) -- I can't tell you the relief, the spiritual, mental, physical relief. I knew all the dogmatic reasoning etc. but here I really felt it.

I know what He states will be the end all of the system of things, but there HAS to be a way to lesson the burden.

There is

God knows we are frail beings. He knows we try hard. His hand is always there to help us and He gives us these little "booster packs" to help us on our way -- the sacraments -- as you noted the Eucharist to nourish us, the sacrament of repentance to lessen the burden -- make no mistake, it is HE who provided and provides these, it is HE who lightens our burden. All we do is confess our sins and He erases the slate.

223 posted on 06/22/2011 9:09:44 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: NoGrayZone; Salvation
Just to add on to the bit about different languages -- I had been for Mass in I guess about 9 other languages before, but those were one-off, maybe two Sundays in a row and then to an English speaking parish.

But here I was sitting each week for Mass in Polish and initially with a little hymnal in English, then slowly focusing on what was really happening -- I was born way after VII so I have no recollection of a mass in anything but English from when I was growing up, so this was like a new thing for me -- I was seeing and experiencing the mystery and the glory of the eucharist with new eyes and ears

And it was amazing

225 posted on 06/22/2011 9:13:13 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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