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William Shakespeare Was Probably a Catholic, Says Archbishop of Canterbury
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^
| 5/28/11
| Anita Singh
Posted on 05/29/2011 10:41:42 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Since when are we to believe anything that Dr. Rowan Williams has to say? The Bard may have been Catholic, but Williams saying so makes me want to think just the opposite.
To: marshmallow
He wasnt a very nice man in many ways its always very shocking, that. The late Shakespeare was hoarding grain and buying up property in Stratford it was not terribly attractive. Spoken like a true Marxist.
He was investing in real estate and grain futures. He was a (gasp) capitalist!!!
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05/29/2011 10:53:42 AM PDT
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Pontiac
To: marshmallow
I read a couple of years ago Shakespeare might have been a Sephardic Jewish woman!
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posted on
05/29/2011 11:00:20 AM PDT
by
Jack Hydrazine
(It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
To: marshmallow
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posted on
05/29/2011 11:19:13 AM PDT
by
syriacus
(Obama has no idea what a US President is supposed to be like. HIS president was Suharto.)
To: syriacus
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05/29/2011 11:23:47 AM PDT
by
syriacus
(Obama has no idea what a US President is supposed to be like. HIS president was Suharto.)
To: marshmallow; All
The English religious situation was highly ambiguous in the time of Elizabeth I. Her father, Henry VIII, made such a mess of it that nobody knew what to profess to stay away from the headsman. Then Edward, Elizabeth's half brother, did his level best to make the country entirely Protestant. He died and his half sister, Mary, aka “Bloody Mary,” tried to turn the country back to full Catholicism. Then Mary died, leaving the country to Elizabeth, Mary's half sister. Elizabeth got to work, combined much of Protestantism and Catholicism into a giant polical-religious compromise, and called it the Church of England. High Church Anglicans could easily possess essentially Catholic beliefs as long as they supported the Church of England and did not express any support for the Pope or Catholic Church. It would have been very easy for Shakespeare to fit essentially Catholic beliefs into the heterogeneous Elizabethan Church of England.
To: Pontiac
I had family several miles down the Avon, who were hording grain, buying property, and charging high interest. They were rather High Church though.
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posted on
05/29/2011 12:15:38 PM PDT
by
Little Bill
(Sorry)
To: marshmallow; nickcarraway; NYer
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05/29/2011 12:44:56 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
(Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
To: Jack Hydrazine
Shakespeare was baptized a Roman Catholic on his death bed by a Jesuit Priest.
To: marshmallow
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posted on
05/29/2011 1:15:57 PM PDT
by
GOP Poet
(Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
To: marshmallow
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posted on
05/29/2011 1:25:50 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: NotTallTex
I agree. If I were inclined to the Catholic-Shakespeare theory, having the arch-Druid supporting it would make me think again.
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05/29/2011 1:41:46 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Oh most loving Father, preserve us from faithless fears and worldly anxieties.)
To: Jack Hydrazine
Sheikh Spear was a muslim
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05/29/2011 4:20:12 PM PDT
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Oztrich Boy
(Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
To: Oztrich Boy
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05/29/2011 4:54:06 PM PDT
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Jack Hydrazine
(It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
To: marshmallow
rowan:
He wasnt a very nice man in many ways its always very shocking, that. The late Shakespeare was hoarding grain and buying up property in Stratford it was not terribly attractive.Firstly, I think the entire premise about Shakespeare being Catholic or Anglican is infinitely debatable with no definite proof one way or the other. Most likely he WAS Catholic, but I don't see it making a difference at all -- he was pretty definitely not a Puritan/Calvinist, but he could have been a High Church Anglican
Secondly, Rowan seems to think Willy-boy was not nice because he practiced capitalism....
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05/30/2011 12:22:14 AM PDT
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Cronos
(Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
To: Pontiac
I'm not so sure about the goodness of hoarding grain, but then I need to read on whether there was food shortages, on whether Will actually DID this (concrete proof) and on whether he did this for his own extended family as well (remember that until the 1800s folks who "made it" would support their extended families and poorer relatives too.
About real estate buying -- come on, a guy writing plays probably thought that he never knew when the money would dry up, whereas if you had land, you could always have some money or goods coming in -- that's how the nobility had survived and quite frankly how most survived in the pre-Industrial era. What was wrong with him buying up property to ensure his and his descendents future?
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05/30/2011 12:26:03 AM PDT
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Cronos
(Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
To: Little Bill; Belteshazzar; redgolum
I wonder how many freepers now know the difference between High Church and Low Church? I think the Lutherans also had the same concept. is that correct, Belt, red?
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05/30/2011 12:28:53 AM PDT
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Cronos
(Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
To: Oztrich Boy
Sheikh Spear was a muslimBrilliant zoke!
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05/30/2011 12:43:28 AM PDT
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Cronos
(Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
To: Jack Hydrazine
Moses he knowses his toeses are roses but Moses supposes erroneously (*cue for Gene Kelly dance*)
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05/30/2011 12:44:29 AM PDT
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Cronos
(Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
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