Posted on 05/14/2011 7:03:25 AM PDT by flowerplough
Christian radio tycoon says the world will end May 21—and surprising numbers believe him.
Ralph Workman believes what he hears on Christian radio. He believes preacher and Family Radio chief Harold Camping is right about Judgment Day. He believes the world is coming to an end May 21, 2011.
An engineer at Boeing's avionics lab, Workman helps manage an RV caravan winding its way around the United States—from Indianapolis to Pittsburgh to Virginia—sharing the belief that biblical numbers point to the specific expiration date for the world. He also runs a website called eBible Fellowship, which distributes Camping's teachings. "I hope many people will get saved and God will have mercy like Nineveh, but most are just scoffers," Workman said. Even his wife does not agree with him on Camping's teaching.
The timing coincides with earthquakes, tsunamis, and Middle East turmoil, feeding greater than usual response to end-times predictions. It precedes the Mayan 2012 prediction, which broke into popular culture through the 2009 big budget movie 2012 . Theologians, former listeners, and skeptics warn that Camping's teaching is unbiblical, prediction off-base, and message harmful to followers. But many seem to be listening to Camping rather than his critics—funding ads, signs, and postings from Iceland to India, along with YouTube videos, some with more than 300,000 views and titles like "Rapture Soon," "Jesus Coming," and of course "May 21, 2011." Family Radio is sponsoring the caravan of four RVs, plastered with Camping's message, and has bought space on 1,000 billboards nationwide.
This is Camping's latest prediction after followers were disappointed in 1994, when he gave a range of dates.
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Naw, you guys are the one who admittely rely completely on your teachers to understand the scriptures...
We believe the bible as we read it and see and believe in the events of the Rapture...
You guys listen you your teachers and they tell you not to believe it...
We get the Rapture from believe what God tells us and everyone in the scriptures...
Actually, Mr. Darby was Anglo/Irish and his sect was begun primarily in Ireland.
You wrote:
“Naw, you guys are the one who admittely rely completely on your teachers to understand the scriptures...”
Iscool, you can try to turn this around all you like, but it is your teachers who are false - even according to other Protestants.
“We believe the bible as we read it and see and believe in the events of the Rapture...”
As you read it and see it. The blind leading the blind.
“You guys listen you your teachers and they tell you not to believe it...”
It’s a modern theory. It’s made up. It was popularized in the 19th century. Not even all Protestants believe it. It was fringe until a few decades ago. False prophets. False teachers. All yours.
“We get the Rapture from believe what God tells us and everyone in the scriptures...”
Nope. It’s made up and won’t happen. It isn’t Biblical and neither is your belief in it.
LOL.
You responded: "Pretty good argument of 2 separate events, since the Day of the Lord is one of wrath and vengeance."
So what has been fulfilled and what hasn't? ....the [Matthew 24] Olivet Discourse was fulfilled in the Jewish War or in the time leading up to it, as was Daniel 9, and all of Revelation up until part of the last two chapters. ... we are NOW in the "millenium" of Rev. 20. What is past that, and the final resurrection (referred to in John 5, in 1 Corinthians and the Thessalonian correspondence, and elsewhere) is yet to come.
Look at 1 Corinthians 15:20-28
Scripture Verse: "But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order:
Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all."
Christ was raised first. That is a past event.
Those who are Christ’s will be raised when He comes, this is a future event.....this is not the same “coming” as in Matthew 24).
He will come at the end of the His reign, making his reign a present reality.. and the end a future event...
His reign cannot end until He has destroyed all rule and authority and power, again making His reign a present, progressive reality...
The last enemy to be destroyed is death, there are NO MORE enemies after death, and no more rule and authority and power before death is destroyed since death is the LAST ENEMY that Christ has to deal with. Stop and let this marinate and sink in.
After He destroys the last enemy the Messianic Kingdom is over, it is delivered up to God the Father and God will be all in all.
“Your incredibly defensive and entirely wrong. Do you believe the world is about to end on May 21st? “
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You appear overly concerned re the above...regret there is nothing I can do to calm your fear...
Everyone knows its May 21st 2012.
Check the Mayan calendar!
LOL! Actually, it is DECEMBER 21st, 2012.
Don't be so sure.
There are many (here on FR included) who will ignore this "mistake" and give him credit for other things he's done that they approve of or agree with.
No one I know "rejects the millennial rein of Christ". Where did you get THAT idea?
“...The thousand year reign of Christ is another image for the kingdom of Christ. After all, it is the KINGDOM that is prophesied by the Old Testament prophets; it is the kingdom that is declared by Christ and the Apostles. Neither the Old Testament prophets nor the New Testament apostles speak of a “millennium” (except in the single, debated, ___figurative___ passage in Revelation). AND the thousand year reign of Christ is most definitely a “kingdom,” in that Christ “rules and reigns” in it.
Why is the millennium not the kingdom prophesied in the OT and declared in the NT? Why not the very kingdom that Christ himself established in the first century?”
As you won't directly answer the question as to whether you believe the rapture will begin on May 21st this month, I will have to assume you either believe such nonsense or are sympathetic to this charlatan Camping. Either way, your defense of him is telling.
The Millennial kingdom is prophesied in the OT...But it's not the kingdom that Jesus brought to the first century...That kingdom is spiritual...
The Millennial kingdom is a physical kingdom, on earth, with Jesus ruling from a physical throne in the city of Jerusalem...
And he's not there yet...
At the Rapture, only believers will see Jesus and not on the Earth...We'll meet him in the clouds...
At the second coming, Jesus will land on Earth and everyone will see him...
If you know and believe the bible, you know that to be true...
Perhaps a fee should be charged for posting this nonsense.
Jesus is coming back ONCE. It’s called the Second Coming, not the “Sort of Coming Back but not Landing”.
People who believe the Bible KNOW there is only one Second Coming.
No its not.
Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
This confirms that the KoG was a present reality from the time of John and something that was "already" in a sense that could be acted upon. The allusion may be to those who sought to inaugurate the KoG by military force, but is more likely saying that John opened the way and now Jesus the king is leading the people on it. (See explanation here.) ..."
To which particular nonsense do you refer, and how much should we charge? If you're of the politically-correct-enough persuasion, Bubba Boner Clinton might be willing to join you in monitoring and approving Americans’ internet privileges.
Bill Clinton Calling for of Govt Internet By KMacGinn
May 14, 2011 · Bill Clinton Calling for of Govt Internet Monitoring Agency ... and Rumor Control
http://hummersandcigarettes.blogspot.com/2011/05/bill-clinton-calling-for-of-govt.html
Can I use that argument in support of doctrines such as the perpetual virginity of Mary, Apostolic Succession, ad Real Presence believed by over a billion Catholics?
Yet according to Camping no one has been saved since May 21 1988. That was when he claims the Holy Spirit had departed the Church. Or was that date when he was asked to stop teaching at one church because he was getting off base? Camping is a bitter old man, and his bitterness is clouding his thinking.
Well, Satan must have a pretty long chain to allow him everywhere the audience of Scripture now resides.
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