Posted on 05/04/2011 6:47:12 PM PDT by Gamecock
Being literate and quite able to comprehend what I read I can say without hesitation that did not claim that children seduced priests who abused them.
Tsk, tsk. How intolerant of you. Do you know that if you were to say publicly in many countries what you just wrote here you would be charged with a hate crime?
Sad world isn’t it?
I can read, too. I could discuss it here, and try to put things in context, but my hands are tied.
Confession might be good for your soul
I understand you not wanting to bring it to this thread.
The most probable pedophiles in order are:
Fathers
Teachers
Coaches
Protestant ministers
Priests are way down on the list.
So if a father is a teacher of mid-high history, coaches the girl’s basketball team and is a youth minister at his church on weekends/Sundays — watch out! He would be much more prone to pedophilia that any priest.
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Sexual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers
Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year
Abuse by Protestant Ministers of Every Denomination
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You are right. Cultural Marxism is to destroy debate of issues because Marxism can’t allow logic and reason (as all Postmodern German Philosophy) for it is based on lies and a denial of Natural Law Theory and the Enlightenment ideas.
Political Correctness was developed by the Herbert Marcuse’s and Bill Ayers’ of the world to destroy Christianity and the natural family so that their godless ideology could redesign man into their ‘trousered ape’ image which can be enslaved.
Bravo. That is not a position I see taken by many Catholics here on FR. I'm sure they really feel that way, but would never admit it on these pages.
Still, what are we to say about the liberal mainline Protestant denominations that are openly bringing sodomites into the clergy? Anyone who thinks that sodomites won’t molest children simply because they are Protestant clergy is clinically insane (I’m not saying that this is your position).
One must wonder if those folks are truely Christians. The liberal Protestant Churches are dying on the vine. Sodomites are not the true disease but rather a major symptom. The disease is denying the truth of Scripture. That is what they have to do to reach the point where they openly welcome homosexuals.
It starts something like this: Paul hated women or Paul was just writing about his time. Next thing you know women are ministers.
Then it turns into the Bible was just reflecting the way homosexuals were treated by the ancient cultures. Soon homosexuals are being ordained.
BTW, who is saying that the Orthodox Presbyterian Church is leftist? Has it changed that much since it was set up by Machen et. al.?
Cronos. He seems to have an interesting definition of leftist.
Blessings
As an aside: [Against] The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment C.S. Lewis
Protocol suggests Judith Anne should have been pinged. No matter - she is known to shoot from the hip without taking the pistol out of the holster.
Show me where she ever wrote that the child victims were the cause of their own abuse.
First, I never said that. Now you tell me how you got that from this:
"Protocol suggests Judith Anne should have been pinged. No matter - she is known to shoot from the hip without taking the pistol out of the holster."
Old Reggie,
I apologize that is what others wrote in regards to what Judith Ann had posted and I wrongly thought you were asserting the same thing when you wrote “Nobody? not exactly. Such things were said. Judge for yourself.”
I have discussed the post you have linked to on another thread. I think it gets too confusing to discuss a post made by another person in the past on another thread on several current threads. Lost yet? I am.
I truly can not speak to the mind of Judith Ann but my understanding was she was speaking of teenagers who participate in the homosexual subculture. Think drugs, think perversion, think parasitic relationships.
In my opinion such a subculture does not apply to teen victims of clergy. Especially teen victims from an era much more innocent than ours.
One very real consequence of the growing acceptance of homosexual behavior as normal is that more and more teens will be drawn into the sordid dangerous exploitive subculture of sexual perversion. The same subculture that feeds the whole demand for pornography and the sex trade.
I won’t write anything more about Judith Ann’s remarks.
Again I apologizee for my haste in jumping to conclusions about what you wrote.
Since he voluntarily stepped down as bishop, he’s actually not a bishop at all, emeritus notwithstanding. At least he pled guilty...
Very very disturbing and revealing. Luther was right, not one man in 1,000 can happily live a celibate life... I believe in our sex-drenched culture too, those who volunteer for a life of celibacy will have a (significantly) higher percentage of homosexual or other deviant tendencies, which they are trying to get away from, or hide.
I’m glad the bible doesn’t require celibacy in Church leaders.
Actually, married ministers have quite a bit of trouble, too. Consider Trollope’s married bishop, for instance, trying to deal with Mrs. Bishop.
And, although the press is dead set on attacking the Catholic Church by any means, sexual deviancy is just as common, or more common, among Protestant ministers, and certainly among public school teachers, married or not.
I’ve known quite a few celibate priests, and they manage pretty well. Better than Martin Luther, whom you mention, breaking his solemn vows and marrying a nun, thereby making her break her vows as well.
Not denial of any facts...just your constant stream of anti-Catholic posts here. Even your homepage here is replete with bigotry.
If Catholic clergymen are proven guilty of these crimes then by all means they need to pay the penalties as anyone else would. But you seem to search for this and then just gleefully post these stories. I’m certainly not in denial, as all men are imperfect, even priests and bishops of HMC, but that doesn’t mitigate the fact that this sort of thing goes on in ALL denominations. Why no stories about them?
It also doesn’t mitigate the fact that you have an agenda.
Thank you very much. Every one of us has jumped to a hasty conclusion every now and then so it is no big deal. No apology is necessary but I very much appreciate your honesty and integrity in doing so.
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