Posted on 04/23/2011 1:27:26 PM PDT by NYer
Where is Christ after he dies on Friday afternoon and before he rises on Easter Sunday? Both Scripture and Tradition answer this question. Consider the following from a Second Century Sermon and also a mediation from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
An Ancient Sermon:
Today a great silence reigns on earth, a great silence and a great stillness. A great silence because the King is asleep. The earth trembled and is still because God has fallen asleep in the flesh and he has raised up all who have slept ever since the world began. . . He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him – He who is both their God and the son of Eve. . . “I am your God, who for your sake have become your son. . . I order you, O sleeper, to awake. I did not create you to be a prisoner in hell. Rise from the dead, for I am the life of the dead.” [From an Ancient Holy Saturday Homily ca 2nd Century]
Nothing could be more beautiful than that line addressed to Adam and Eve: I am your God, who, for your sake, became your Son.”
Scripture also testifies to Christ’s descent to the dead and what he did: For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison….For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does. (1 Peter 3:18; 1 Peter 4:6).
Consider also this from the Catechism on Christ’s descent to the dead, which I summarize and excerpt from CCC # 631-635
[The] first meaning given in the apostolic preaching to Christ’s descent into hell [is] that Jesus, like all men, experienced death and in his soul joined the others in the realm of the dead.
But he descended there as Savior, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there [1 Peter 3:18-19; 1 Peter 4:6; Heb. 13:20]. Scripture calls [this] abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell” – Sheol in Hebrew, or Hades in Greek – because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God [1 Peter 3:18-19].
Such [was] the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they awaited the Redeemer: It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior …whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell.”[cf Psalms 89:49; 1 Sam. 28:19; Ezek 32:17ff; Luke 16:22-26]
Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.
[So] the gospel was preached even to the dead. The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfillment. This is the last phase of Jesus’ messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ’s redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption.
Christ went down into the depths of death so that “the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.”[1 Peter 4:6] Jesus, “the Author of life”, by dying, destroyed “him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and [delivered] all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage” [John 5:25; Mt 12:40; Rom 10:7; Eph 4:9].
Henceforth the risen Christ holds “the keys of Death and Hades”, so that “at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth.”[Heb 2:14-15; Acts 3:15]
Why not?
Does your church have NO answer to the question:
Where is Jesus Between His Death and Resurrection?
Not only YOURS, but the Official Position of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints is welcome as well.
We all learn.
HMMmm...
Google® can only find a book by John Chrysostom that contains this EXACT quote.
He does have some POSITION he wants to put forth; does he?
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Then you are a mighty poor apologist; as well as strangely changed from your OLD ways of telling us what we believed all the time!
Your temperment in this matter is greatly appreciated. But, since THIS thread is NOT 'about and for' Catholics; feel free to tell us what you've 'learned' anyway.
I sure some folks could tell you (and the rest of us) whether what you were 'taught' is correct.
Wow!
THAT must have been long, LONG ago!
Twasn’t my EYES!
"If a man invites you to take a walk with him, you can say that you are too tired.
Should a man invite you to dinner, you can say that you have just eaten.
If a man asks you to have a drink with him, you can say it is against your religion.
However, if a man asks you to fight him, then you must oblige him."
Mark Twain
we are all God’s children
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The LORD Jesus Christ who is God Himself said we are not
Who to believe ???
You or God ???
DU; you almost make me believe in EVOLUTION!
WATCH OUT!!
You are getting SO close!
Temple Recommend Questions
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost? 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer? 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days? 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church? 5 Do you live the law of chastity? 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church? 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel? 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen? 10 Are you a full-tithe payer? 11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom? 12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations? 13 If you have previously received your temple endowment: Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple? Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple? 14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been? 15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances? |
More like disTASTEFUL! That wine is just NASTY!
--MormonDude(Gimme WATER anytime!)
P M
You seem to SUSPECT a LOT of things that are not in evidence; and then use your SUSPICIONS to slur folks; in my honest humble opinion!
You seem REALLY curious about CATHOLIC teachings here.
Why not use the SAME CRITERIA to 'understand' MORMON teachings; especially those secre oops SACRED rituals performed in MORMON temples that seem to have NO 'scriptural' backing?
Sadly it is readily apparent that Anti Mormons do not have any respect for other religions either.
I will quickly peruse your spam, then quit posting on this thread because it's supposed to be CATHOLIC!
Duh
Delph
I have never told you what you believed.
You make that quite obvious by your posts and I am content to let you speak for yourself as I always have been.
Delph
Mark Twain
But if you get in a fight with 20 men and a referee who has placed money on that fight, you are a fool.
FR sadly has declared it is against Mormons, when it used to be pro Conservatism. Tis a sad change that IMHO only serves to make FR less than it was.
As for calling me a coward, LC, LOL! You post as a girl, then challenge to a fight. I don't fight girls, my mom taught me better.
If you are a man, I'll see you anywhere, any time and you can even bring a few friends. But the referee has to be fair, and it's just not the case here anymore.
I posted on a thread seeking knowledge. I get hounded by the ignorant.
Jim is this what you envision when you see FR at it's heyday?
Delph
“I posted on a thread seeking knowledge. I get hounded by the ignorant.”
Nope. Try again.
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