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Where is Jesus Between His Death and Resurrection?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | April 22, 2011 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/23/2011 1:27:26 PM PDT by NYer

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Where is Christ after he dies on Friday afternoon and before he rises on Easter Sunday? Both Scripture and Tradition answer this question. Consider the following from a Second Century Sermon and also a mediation from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

An Ancient Sermon:

Today a great silence reigns on earth, a great silence and a great stillness. A great silence because the King is asleep. The earth trembled and is still because God has fallen asleep in the flesh and he has raised up all who have slept ever since the world began. . . He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him – He who is both their God and the son of Eve. . . “I am your God, who for your sake have become your son. . . I order you, O sleeper, to awake. I did not create you to be a prisoner in hell. Rise from the dead, for I am the life of the dead.” [From an Ancient Holy Saturday Homily ca 2nd Century]

Nothing could be more beautiful than that line addressed to Adam and Eve: I am your God, who, for your sake, became your Son.”

Scripture also testifies to Christ’s descent to the dead and what he did: For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison….For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does. (1 Peter 3:18; 1 Peter 4:6).

Consider also this from the Catechism on Christ’s descent to the dead, which I summarize and excerpt from CCC # 631-635

[The] first meaning given in the apostolic preaching to Christ’s descent into hell [is] that Jesus, like all men, experienced death and in his soul joined the others in the realm of the dead.

But he descended there as Savior, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there [1 Peter 3:18-19; 1 Peter 4:6; Heb. 13:20]. Scripture calls [this] abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell” – Sheol in Hebrew, or Hades in Greek – because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God [1 Peter 3:18-19].

Such [was] the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they awaited the Redeemer: It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior …whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell.”[cf Psalms 89:49; 1 Sam. 28:19; Ezek 32:17ff; Luke 16:22-26]

Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.

[So] the gospel was preached even to the dead. The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfillment. This is the last phase of Jesus’ messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ’s redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption.

Christ went down into the depths of death so that “the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.”[1 Peter 4:6] Jesus, “the Author of life”, by dying, destroyed “him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and [delivered] all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage” [John 5:25; Mt 12:40; Rom 10:7; Eph 4:9].

Henceforth the risen Christ holds “the keys of Death and Hades”, so that “at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth.”[Heb 2:14-15; Acts 3:15]


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: badtheology; death; easter; easter2011; jesus; msgrcharlespope; resurrection
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To: DelphiUser
This thread is not about Mormon doctrine.

Why not?

Does your church have NO answer to the question:

Where is Jesus Between His Death and Resurrection?

141 posted on 04/24/2011 8:17:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: narses
You are most welcome to post your beliefs here.

Not only YOURS, but the Official Position of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints is welcome as well.

142 posted on 04/24/2011 8:19:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

We all learn.


143 posted on 04/24/2011 8:21:31 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: NYer
"Unless a man be born again of water and the spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven."

HMMmm...

Google® can only find a book by John Chrysostom that contains this EXACT quote.

He does have some POSITION he wants to put forth; does he?


John 3:3
 
 
New International Version (©1984)
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

New Living Translation (©2007)
Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God."

English Standard Version (©2001)
Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."

International Standard Version (©2008)
Jesus replied to him, "Truly, I tell you with certainty, unless a person is born from above he cannot see the kingdom of God."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Jesus replied to Nicodemus, "I can guarantee this truth: No one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above."

King James Bible
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

American King James Version
Jesus answered and said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

American Standard Version
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except one be born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Bible in Basic English
Jesus said to him, Truly, I say to you, Without a new birth no man is able to see the kingdom of God.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Jesus answered, and said to him: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Darby Bible Translation
Jesus answered and said to him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except any one be born anew he cannot see the kingdom of God.

English Revised Version
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Webster's Bible Translation
Jesus answered and said to him, Verily, verily, I say to thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Weymouth New Testament
"In most solemn truth I tell you," answered Jesus, "that unless a man is born anew he cannot see the Kingdom of God."

World English Bible
Jesus answered him, "Most certainly, I tell you, unless one is born anew, he can't see the Kingdom of God."

Young's Literal Translation
Jesus answered and said to him, 'Verily, verily, I say to thee, If any one may not be born from above, he is not able to see the reign of God;'


144 posted on 04/24/2011 8:25:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
... I am not Catholic and can't speak to what you believe.

Then you are a mighty poor apologist; as well as strangely changed from your OLD ways of telling us what we believed all the time!

145 posted on 04/24/2011 8:27:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
It would be rude and IMHO un-christlike to go to a post about, and for Catholics and start spouting either my beliefs, or telling them what they believe.

Your temperment in this matter is greatly appreciated. But, since THIS thread is NOT 'about and for' Catholics; feel free to tell us what you've 'learned' anyway.

I sure some folks could tell you (and the rest of us) whether what you were 'taught' is correct.

146 posted on 04/24/2011 8:30:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
Eventually the priest offered to sponsor me into the priesthood, because of my exceptional understanding of the Bible.

Wow!

THAT must have been long, LONG ago!

147 posted on 04/24/2011 8:31:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Twasn’t my EYES!


148 posted on 04/24/2011 8:32:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
You keep trying to pick A fight, stop it.

"If a man invites you to take a walk with him, you can say that you are too tired.
Should a man invite you to dinner, you can say that you have just eaten.
If a man asks you to have a drink with him, you can say it is against your religion.
However, if a man asks you to fight him, then you must oblige him."

Mark Twain

149 posted on 04/24/2011 8:36:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser

we are all God’s children
______________________________________

The LORD Jesus Christ who is God Himself said we are not

Who to believe ???

You or God ???


150 posted on 04/24/2011 8:38:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: DelphiUser
Let me make this clear, I will not have a debate on a Catholic thread about Mormonism.

DU; you almost make me believe in EVOLUTION!



151 posted on 04/24/2011 8:38:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
I would rather be friends with a non Mormon who lived his religion, than with a Mormon who did not and they could be doing the exact same things.

WATCH OUT!!

You are getting SO close!



 
 
 
Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

       Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
       Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
 
 
 

152 posted on 04/24/2011 8:41:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
JFTR, I had the option of partaking in the communion since they thought I was Catholic, but I did not because that would have been disrespectful!

More like disTASTEFUL! That wine is just NASTY!

--MormonDude(Gimme WATER anytime!)

153 posted on 04/24/2011 8:43:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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P M


154 posted on 04/24/2011 8:44:44 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: DelphiUser
I suspect that your ant and uncle simply didn't want to say no, so they made it up. Not very good manners nor honest IMHO.

You seem to SUSPECT a LOT of things that are not in evidence; and then use your SUSPICIONS to slur folks; in my honest humble opinion!

155 posted on 04/24/2011 8:45:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
If Catholic teaching is that Judgment happens immediately upon death, except for people who died before Jesus was resurrected, why and what's the logic / source for that belief?

You seem REALLY curious about CATHOLIC teachings here.

Why not use the SAME CRITERIA to 'understand' MORMON teachings; especially those secre oops SACRED rituals performed in MORMON temples that seem to have NO 'scriptural' backing?

156 posted on 04/24/2011 8:48:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
LC, I have made it clear I am not trying to hijack this Catholic thread about a Catholic Topic.

Sadly it is readily apparent that Anti Mormons do not have any respect for other religions either.

I will quickly peruse your spam, then quit posting on this thread because it's supposed to be CATHOLIC!

Duh

Delph

157 posted on 04/24/2011 9:05:07 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Elsie
LC, and this is why I perused...

I have never told you what you believed.

You make that quite obvious by your posts and I am content to let you speak for yourself as I always have been.

Delph

158 posted on 04/24/2011 9:07:20 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Elsie; Jim Robinson
“If a man invites you to take a walk with him, you can say that you are too tired.
Should a man invite you to dinner, you can say that you have just eaten.
If a man asks you to have a drink with him, you can say it is against your religion.
However, if a man asks you to fight him, then you must oblige him.”

Mark Twain

But if you get in a fight with 20 men and a referee who has placed money on that fight, you are a fool.

FR sadly has declared it is against Mormons, when it used to be pro Conservatism. Tis a sad change that IMHO only serves to make FR less than it was.

As for calling me a coward, LC, LOL! You post as a girl, then challenge to a fight. I don't fight girls, my mom taught me better.

If you are a man, I'll see you anywhere, any time and you can even bring a few friends. But the referee has to be fair, and it's just not the case here anymore.

I posted on a thread seeking knowledge. I get hounded by the ignorant.

Jim is this what you envision when you see FR at it's heyday?

Delph

159 posted on 04/24/2011 9:15:05 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

“I posted on a thread seeking knowledge. I get hounded by the ignorant.”

Nope. Try again.


160 posted on 04/24/2011 9:17:36 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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