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French “Miracle” Nun Pays Back Pope John Paul
FoxNews.com ^ | January 17,,2011 | Greg Burke

Posted on 01/17/2011 4:31:54 PM PST by Salvation

Edited on 01/17/2011 4:33:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]


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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Prayer; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; johnpaulii; prayer
You would think that at least Greg Burke could get the title correct........sigh.......
1 posted on 01/17/2011 4:32:02 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation

Yeah but Benny Hinn healed like thousands. LOL!


2 posted on 01/17/2011 4:34:23 PM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; markomalley; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

If you aren’t on this ping list NOW and would like to be on it, please Freepmail me.

3 posted on 01/17/2011 4:35:13 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt
This is about Intercessory Prayer

The Early Church Fathers on Intercession of the Saints - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

4 posted on 01/17/2011 4:41:18 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt

God did the healing, she just routed her prayers through Pope John Paul II.


5 posted on 01/17/2011 4:41:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
“At present there is no cure for Parkinson’s Disease,” says the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke.

Interesting article:

Man Cured Of Parkinson's Disease

By Jen Kelly

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/common/story_page/0,4511,1728633%255E662,00.html

A man with Parkinson's disease has been cured in a breakthrough that offers hope to millions of people worldwide, it was revealed yesterday.

The disease was gone within a month, and 18 months later the patient was still symptom-free and medication-free, despite having suffered Parkinson's for 15 years.

The illness was reversed using cells taken from the American man's own brain, which were treated in the laboratory then returned to his brain.

Doctors are impressed with the results, but warn that large-scale clinical trials are needed to verify the one-off cure.

The breakthrough, which raises hope for millions of sufferers, including an estimated 50,000 in Australia, was revealed yesterday by the Spinal Cord Society.

The society, which helped fund the research, also revealed the treatment secured the approval of the influential US Food and Drug Administration in mid-2000, giving the green light for large-scale human trials.

The man was treated at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Centre’s Neurofunctional Surgery Centre in Los Angeles, by neurosurgeon Dr Michel Levesque.

The cure also raises hopes for treatments to reverse damage caused by spinal cord injuries as well as stroke and epilepsy.

Spinal Cord Society of Australia president George Owen said it was unknown when large-scale human trials would begin.

“There is still work to do, but the facts are that one man has had his own cells put back and within a month lost all his symptoms, and he's been off his medication for 18 months,” said Mr Owen, a Victorian surgeon.

“That's an absolutely brilliant outcome. Now we need to repeat this on other patients so it can become a mainstream treatment for Parkinson's.

“One of the downsides is this requires a brain biopsy, and that is not without its risks. There's a 1 per cent mortality rate.

“But these people are desperate. People are dying of this disease.”

The cells harvested from the patient’s brain are stem cells, premature cells which can be made to grow into any type of cell.

Scientists stimulate these stem cells to become dopamine-producing cells, which are the brain cells destroyed in patients with Parkinson's.

Millions of these cells are grown and then returned to the patient’s brain, replacing cells destroyed by the disease and thereby reversing the illness.

The treatment must pass large clinical trials before it will be widely available. It is hoped Australian patients could be included in trials.

Actor Michael J. Fox's much-publicised battle with Parkinson's has raised the disease's profile and hastened the race for a cure.

6 posted on 01/17/2011 4:50:25 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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7 posted on 01/17/2011 4:53:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Praying for others in the Bible!

Specific Instructions to Mediate and Examples of Subordinate Mediation

New Testament

Matt. 5:44-45 - Jesus tells us to pray for (to mediate on behalf of) those who persecute us. God instructs us to mediate.

Matt. 17:1-3; Mark 9:4; Luke 9:30-31 – deceased Moses and Elijah appear at the Transfiguration to converse with Jesus in the presence of Peter, James and John (these may be the two “witnesses” John refers to in Rev. 11:3). Nothing in Scripture ever suggests that God abhors or cuts off communication between the living in heaven and the living on earth. To the contrary, God encourages communication within the communion of saints. Moses and Elijah’s appearance on earth also teach us that the saints in heaven have capabilities that far surpass our limitations on earth.

Matt. 26:53 – Jesus says He can call upon the assistance of twelve legions of angels. If Jesus said He could ask for the assistance of angel saints – and He obviously would not have been worshiping them in so doing – then so can we, who need their help infinitely more than Jesus, and without engaging in idolatry. And, in Matt. 22:30, Jesus says we will be “like angels in heaven.” This means human saints (like the angel saints) can be called upon to assist people on earth. God allows and encourages this interaction between his family members.

Matt. 27:47,49; Mark 15:35-36 – the people believe that Jesus calls on Elijah for his intercession, and waits to see if Elijah would come to save Jesus on the cross.

Matt. 27:52-53 - at Jesus' passion, many saints were raised and went into the city to appear and presumably interact with the people, just as Jesus did after His resurrection.

Mark 11:24 - Jesus says that whatever we ask in prayer, we will receive it. It is Jesus, and also we through Jesus, who mediate.

John 2:3 - Jesus knew the wine was gone, but invites and responds to Mary's intercession. God desires our lesser mediation and responds to it because He is a living and loving God.

John 2:5 - Mary intercedes on behalf of those at the wedding feast and tells them to do whatever Jesus tells them. Because Mary is our perfect model of faith, we too intercede on behalf of our brothers and sisters.

John 2:11 - in fact, it was Mary's intercession that started Jesus' ministry. His hour had not yet come, yet Jesus responds to Mary's intercession. Even though He could do it all by Himself, God wants to work with His children.

Acts 12:7 – an angel strikes Peter on the side and wakes him up, freeing him from prison. The angel responds to Peter’s prayers.

Rom. 15:30 - Paul commands the family of God to pray for him. If we are united together in the one body of Christ, we can help each other.

2 Cor. 1:11 - Paul even suggests that the more prayers and the more people who pray, the merrier! Prayer is even more effective when united with other's prayers.

2 Cor. 9:14 - Paul says that the earthly saints pray for the Corinthians. They are subordinate mediators in Christ.

2 Cor. 13:7,9 - Paul says the elders pray that the Corinthians may do right and improve. They participate in Christ's mediation.

Gal. 6:2,10 - Paul charges us to bear one another's burdens, and to do good to all, especially those in the household of faith.

Eph. 6:18 - Paul commands the family of God to pray for each other.

Eph. 6:19 - Paul commands that the Ephesians pray for him. If there is only one mediator, why would Paul ask for their prayers?

Phil. 1:19 - Paul acknowledges power of Philippians' earthly intercession. He will be delivered by their prayers and the Holy Spirit.

Col. 1:3 - Paul says that he and the elders pray for the Colossians. They are subordinate mediators in the body of Christ.

Col. 1:9 - Paul says that he and the elders have not ceased to pray for the Colossians, and that, by interceding, they may gain wisdom.

Col. 4:4 - Paul commands the Colossians to pray for the elders of the Church so that God may open a door for the word. Why doesn't Paul just leave it up to God? Because subordinate mediation is acceptable and pleasing to God, and brings about change in the world. This is as mysterious as the Incarnation, but it is true.

1 Thess. 5:11 - Paul charges us to encourage one another and build one another up, in the body of Christ. We do this as mediators in Christ.

1 Thess. 5:17 - Paul says "pray constantly." If Jesus' role as mediator does not apply subordinately to us, why pray at all?

1 Thess. 5:25 - Paul commands the family of God to pray for the elders of the Church. He desires our subordinate mediation.

2 Thess. 1:11 - Paul tells the family of God that he prays for us. We participate in Christ's mediation because Christ desires this.

2 Thess. 3:1 - Paul asks the Thessalonians to pray for Him, Silvanus and Timothy so that they may be delivered.

1 Tim. 2:1-3 - Paul commands us to pray for all. Paul also states that these prayers are acceptable in the sight of God.

2 Tim. 1:3 – Paul says “I remember you constantly in my prayers.”

Philemon 22 - Paul is hoping through Philemon's intercession that he may be able to be with Philemon.

Heb. 1:14 – the author writes, “Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to serve, for the sake of those who are to obtain salvation?”

Hebrews 13:18-19 - the author strongly urges the Hebrews to pray for the elders so that they act desirably in all things.

James 5:14-15- James says the prayer of the priests over the sick man will save the sick man and forgive his sins. This is a powerful example of men forgiving sins and bringing a person to salvation with the sacrament of the sick.

James 5:16 - James instructs us to confess our sins to one another and pray for one another so that we may be healed.

James 5:17-18 - James refers to God's response to Elijah's fervent prayer for no rain. He is teaching us about the effectiveness of our earthly mediation.

1 John 5:14-15 - John is confident that God will grant us anything we ask of God according to His will.

1 John 5:16-17 - our prayers for others even calls God to give life to them and keep them from sinning. Our God is a personal and living God who responds to our prayers.

3 John 2 - John prays for Gaius' health and thus acts as a subordinate mediator.

Rev. 1:4 – this verse shows that angels (here, the seven spirits) give grace and peace. Because grace and peace only come from God, the angels are acting as mediators for God.

Rev. 5:8 - the prayers of the saints (on heaven and earth) are presented to God by the angels and saints in heaven. This shows that the saints intercede on our behalf before God, and it also demonstrates that our prayers on earth are united with their prayers in heaven. (The “24 elders” are said to refer to the people of God – perhaps the 12 tribes and 12 apostles - and the “four living creatures” are said to refer to the angels.)

Rev. 6:9-11 – the martyred saints in heaven cry out in a loud voice to God to avenge their blood “on those who dwell upon the earth.” These are “imprecatory prayers,” which are pleas for God’s judgment (see similar prayers in Psalm 35:1; 59:1-17; 139:19; Jer. 11:20; 15:15; 18:19; Zech.1:12-13). This means that the saints in heaven are praying for those on earth, and God answers their prayers (Rev. 8:1-5). We, therefore, ask for their intercession and protection.

Rev. 8:3-4 – in heaven an angel mingles incense with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar before the throne of God, and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God. These prayers “rise up” before God and elicit various kinds of earthly activity. God responds to his children’s requests, whether made by his children on earth or in heaven.

Old Testament

Gen. 20:17 - God responds to Abraham's intercession and heals Abimelech, and also his wife and slaves.

Gen. 27:29; Num. 24:9 - blessed be everyone who blesses you. If we bless others in prayer, we are also blessed.

Exodus 32:11-14, 30-34; 34:9; Num. 14:17-20; 21:7-9 - these are many examples of God's response to Moses' saintly intercession.

1 Sam. 12:23 - Samuel says that he would be sinning against God if he didn't continue to intercede for the people of Israel.

1 Sam. 28:7-20 – the deceased prophet Samuel appears and converses with Saul, which is confirmed by Sirach 46:13,20).

1 Sam. 28:7; 1 Chron. 10:13-14 - Saul practiced necromancy. He used a medium, not God, to seek the dead and was therefore condemned. Saul's practice is entirely at odds with the Catholic understanding of saintly mediation, where God is the source and channel of all communication, and who permits His children to participate in this power.

2 Chron. 30:27 - the prayers of the priests and Levites came before God's holy habitation in heaven and were answered.

Tobit 12:12,15 - angels place Tobit and Sarah's prayers before the Holy One. This teaches us that the angels are also our subordinate mediators. We pray to the angels to take up our prayers to God.

Job 42:7-9 - Job prayed for three friends in sin and God listened to Job as a result of these prayers.

Psalm 34:7 – the angel of the Lord delivers those who fear him.

Psalm 91:11 – God will give His angels charge of you, to guard you in all your ways.

Psalm 103:20-21; 148:1-2 – we praise the angels and ask for their assistance in doing God’s will.

Psalm 141:2 - David asks that his prayer be counted as incense before God. The prayers of the saints have powerful effects.

Isaiah 6:6-7 - an angel touches Isaiah's lips and declares that his sin is forgiven. The angel is a subordinate mediator of God who effects the forgiveness of sins on God’s behalf.

Jer. 7:16 - God acknowledges the people's ability to intercede, but refuses to answer due to the hardness of heart.

Jer. 15:1 – the Lord acknowledges the intercessory power of Moses and Samuel.

Jer. 37:3 - king Zedekiah sends messengers to ask Jeremiah to intercede for the people, that he might pray to God for them.

Jer. 42:1-6 - all the people of Israel went before Jeremiah asking for his intercession, that he would pray to the Lord for them.

Baruch 3:4 - Baruch asks the Lord to hear the prayers of the dead of Israel. They can intercede on behalf of the people of God.

Dan. 9:20-23 - Daniel intercedes on behalf of the people of Israel confessing both his sins and the sins of the people before God.

Zech. 1:12-13 - an angel intercedes for those in Judea and God responds favorably.

2 Macc. 15:12-16 – the high priest Onias and the prophet Jeremiah were deceased for centuries, and yet interact with the living Judas Maccabeas and pray for the holy people on earth.


8 posted on 01/17/2011 5:14:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Hmm. I don’t think I’m on your ping list. Could you add me please? Thank you


9 posted on 01/17/2011 5:53:42 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: Salvation

My father suffered with Parkinson’s for many years before his death. It’s a terrible affliction.

My understanding is that there is a “Devil’s Advocate” set up by the Vatican to counter and investigate miraculous claims as part of the process of explaining such miracles. They are supposed to remain objective to a fault.

Whoever that is, I think ya gotta feel sorry for them.


10 posted on 01/18/2011 5:46:53 AM PST by incredulous joe
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To: incredulous joe

Definitely thourough investigations are held. Although I wonder about the expediency of this announcement.


11 posted on 01/18/2011 7:05:25 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I don’t like the idea of a rush to canonization.

Regardless, the entire world seems to turn just a bit faster these days, so I do believe a thorough investigation has been undertaken. There is no reason why all of the discussion and arbitration and investigation of the events of June 3rd could not have taken place via modern methods of communication. It could be done in an absolute fraction of the time that it used to take. We also hear more about more potential candidates for sainthood these days because of modern communications, as well.

John Paul the Great needs the assistance of no one here on earth to attain his heavenly crown, which I feel quite certain that he attained the day that he left us. I don’t like that the faithful need to have the process of canonization completed simply to validate sainthood for themselves. One of my long time favorites just became an official saint this year; Damien of the Lepers.

All that being said; won’t it be a wonderful day when our beloved Holy Father, John Paul II ~ along with Mother Theresa ~ attain their rightful place among the saints of our Church?


12 posted on 01/18/2011 2:51:49 PM PST by incredulous joe (Damn the torpedoes!)
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To: Salvation

I don’t like the idea of a rush to canonization.

Regardless, the entire world seems to turn just a bit faster these days, so I do believe a thorough investigation has been undertaken. There is no reason why all of the discussion and arbitration and investigation of the events of June 3rd could not have taken place via modern methods of communication. It could be done in an absolute fraction of the time that it used to take. We also hear more about more potential candidates for sainthood these days because of modern communications, as well.

John Paul the Great needs the assistance of no one here on earth to attain his heavenly crown, which I feel quite certain that he attained the day that he left us. I don’t like that the faithful need to have the process of canonization completed simply to validate sainthood for themselves. One of my long time favorites just became an official saint this year; Damien of the Lepers.

All that being said; won’t it be a wonderful day when our beloved Holy Father, John Paul II ~ along with Mother Theresa ~ attain their rightful place among the saints of our Church?


13 posted on 01/18/2011 2:52:10 PM PST by incredulous joe
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