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King's God: The Unknown Faith of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Tikkun Magazine ^ | Nov./Dec. '09 | Robert James "Be" Scofield

Posted on 01/16/2011 5:45:36 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator

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To: Zionist Conspirator
This same type of thinking led Christ's followers to externalize their inner experience of his lasting power through the story of the bodily resurrection. Those who knew Jesus "had been captivated by the magnetic power of his personality," King writes, which led them to believe that he "could never die."[vi] The living and eternal presence they experienced was then transferred into the story of a bodily resurrection.

I am simply amazed and dumb-founded.

So this so-called "Man of GOd" was a liar and hypocrit.

He had no religion, he was not a Christian, and he continually denied Christ.

Whatever respect I use to have for this idiot has now faded away.
22 posted on 01/16/2011 7:23:17 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Zionist Conspirator

ping


24 posted on 01/16/2011 7:55:24 PM PST by huskerjim
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Same here. Dumbfounded is the word. I was not aware of all this. And to think, just about every major city in America has a “Martin Luther King Street” Avenue or Blvd. The black community reverences those streets, and almost all of their churches theology about creation, the Bible, and Christ, would be diametrically opposite to their great hero’s. Incredible.


25 posted on 01/16/2011 8:12:10 PM PST by sasportas
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Same here. Dumbfounded is the word. I was not aware of all this. And to think, just about every major city in America has a “Martin Luther King Street” Avenue or Blvd. The black community reverences those streets, and almost all of their churches theology about creation, the Bible, and Christ, would be diametrically opposite to their great hero’s. Incredible.

Sadly, I must (after years of scratching my head) state that I no longer know what the Black churches actually believe about creation or the Bible.

The thing is that none of this is secret. I found this article (again, a friendly, pro-King article from a radical leftist publication) after a simple Yahoo search. It's all right there in black and white for anyone who wants to read it.

I am most disappointed in conservative/Fundamentalist Black ministers who continue to play along with this "MLK was a typical born-again" line. It is sheer falsehood.

26 posted on 01/16/2011 8:18:38 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Anokhi HaShem 'Eloqeykha 'asher hotze'tikha me'Eretz Mitzrayim, mibeit `avadim . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Fascinating article. I will point out that determining what King's theology was is made more difficult by his documented habit of plagiarizing his liberal white colleagues' work. While I'm certain that he acknowledged all this post-Christian Teutonic blather as a useful construct for maintaining a Christian facade, I believe that this is precisely what it was: a facade. His real interest was radical socialism and the erasure of republican government and civil society.

The civil rights movement was his first taste of power - by 1965 he had already moved on to the next level.

27 posted on 01/16/2011 8:47:02 PM PST by wideawake
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While the author of the piece meant it to be a compliment, it appears King’s beliefs were a LOT closer to being Unitarian, than any sort of Christian in a meaningful sense.

That doesn’t take away the great things he did...as did Gandhi. Still, makes a bit of a mockery of all those (black, and “progressive-evangelicals”) who keep calling him a great Christian statesman.....

If one cannot say the Apostles or Nicene Creeds honestly...I really believe it is false advertising to claim to be a Christian at all.


29 posted on 01/16/2011 9:43:26 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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I think we should read a balanced view rather than just one article. How valid is a writer who writes about someone after he is dead? Perhaps he’s correct, perhaps not, I think we needs to read more about this.


30 posted on 01/16/2011 11:41:12 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

MLK...the grandest emporer with no clothes ever foisted on our history...and the myth continues ala Beck...Hannity..even Rush some
Magnus...Barry and WFB knew better


31 posted on 01/16/2011 11:45:58 PM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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A physical heaven and a physical hell are inconceivable in a Copernican world

The statement's implicit meaning that the pre-Kopernik world conceived heaven and hell as purely physical or even slightly physical is incorrect. At least in Christianity, the concept has been of a spiritual realm, and us becoming spirits, not retaining our material selves. I believe this to be the same in Rabbinical Judaism, but am not sure.
32 posted on 01/16/2011 11:56:20 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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And yet Jews and others do deny the resurrection. Just denying it in itself is not hate speech — it means that the denier is not Christian, but it is not a hate speech.


33 posted on 01/16/2011 11:58:15 PM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: AnalogReigns; OLD REGGIE
If one cannot say the Apostles or Nicene Creeds honestly...I really believe it is false advertising to claim to be a Christian at all.

Interesting -- what about Unitarians?
34 posted on 01/17/2011 12:08:59 AM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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I'm not black but I don't see any dichtomy. MLK was instrumental in the civil-rights movement. Whether he was Christian or not, that's a separate issue. Blacks can still revere him as a leader, just not as a Christian one (if this article is correct).

It's like those who hold Gandhi as a great leader -- he was hindu, but that does not take away from what he did and I don't see why a Christian cannot still hold Gandhi as a great MAN (note: MAN, human being with human faults and failures -- the greatness part is overcoming those human frailures (:) and doing something great)
35 posted on 01/17/2011 12:14:15 AM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Excellent!


36 posted on 01/17/2011 12:26:45 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: AnalogReigns
That doesn’t take away the great things he did

By no means. I posted this article to expose King's theological liberalism, not to defend jim crow.

Ironically, many conservative also project their own conservative religious beliefs onto people like Thomas Jefferson--another theological radical who did some good things.

37 posted on 01/17/2011 7:52:32 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Anokhi HaShem 'Eloqeykha 'asher hotze'tikha me'Eretz Mitzrayim, mibeit `avadim . . .)
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I think we should read a balanced view rather than just one article. How valid is a writer who writes about someone after he is dead? Perhaps he’s correct, perhaps not, I think we needs to read more about this.

Just a reminder that the article is from a friendly, pro-King source and is intended by the author as praise.

38 posted on 01/17/2011 7:54:39 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Anokhi HaShem 'Eloqeykha 'asher hotze'tikha me'Eretz Mitzrayim, mibeit `avadim . . .)
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And that’s what makes it even more interesting — the guy’s tone is more like one congratulating MLK!


39 posted on 01/17/2011 7:56:43 AM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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And that’s what makes it even more interesting — the guy’s tone is more like one congratulating MLK!

It also means that the claims of theological liberalism are from a friendly source, not a critic, and therefore carry all the more weight.

40 posted on 01/17/2011 7:58:25 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Anokhi HaShem 'Eloqeykha 'asher hotze'tikha me'Eretz Mitzrayim, mibeit `avadim . . .)
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