Posted on 01/04/2011 4:22:02 AM PST by NYer
If you grew up Catholic, it may be difficult for you to relate to those who profess faith in Jesus but whose stomachs turn at the thought of being Catholic. It might seem odd that the Catholic theology youve grown up with is seen by others as an offense to God. I was one of the stomach turners. There are days that I wake up and I still cant believe Im Catholic.
I grew up in the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, usually referred to as Foursquare. Foursquare is a Pentecostal denomination that began in the 1920s and is not rooted in the Reformation. In fact, we had already rejected many things the Reformers believed. While we did hold to sola scriptura and sola fide, we did not believe in "once saved always saved," and, as Pentecostals, we believed in miracles and the gifts of the Spirit, which many of the Reformers rejected. You could say we had already "reformed the reform."
Our denomination had a hierarchy of sorts, but each church was free to design its services and internal composition as it saw fit. We were more concerned that peoples lives were being changed by Jesus than with church structure. In some ways this is goodthere is little value in a well-oiled machine that doesnt change lives. We were much more experientially formed than theologically formed. We cared about theology, but the life-changing experience with Jesus was what really mattered.
I must say that, on the whole, if youre going to pick a Protestant denomination, Foursquare is a good place to be. It is firm in its moral teachings, and with its focus on living for Jesus, a person will inevitably grow closer and more like Jesus the longer he attends.
Whos Ever Heard of Catholic Radio?
In my early twenties, I discerned a call to enter into full-time ministry and became a Foursquare pastor. Through my years of ministry, my wife and I learned to hear the voice of God and were willing to do anything and go anywhere that God wanted us to go. This led us to plant a new Foursquare congregation in the university district of Seattle, Washington, in 1999. Foursquare doesnt fund you when you start a new congregation, so whatever you bring or raise from outside support is all you have. When I arrived with my wife and three girls, I had no income, three months worth of money in the bank, and great faith that we would reach the people of Seattle with the gospel of Jesus. We knew God would provide. Our desire was to seek first his kingdom and let him take care of the rest (cf. Matt. 6:33), and he always has.
During this time we ministered to teens, college students, young adults, and young married families. Each week we would head out to the strip by the college and pass out food and clothes to street kids and send groups of two around the block to start up conversations about the gospel. None of us were evangelists by nature; we simply knew that the only way the unsaved would find Jesus would be if we went to themwe couldnt expect them to just wander into our church.
It was during this time that the door first opened to the Catholic Church. I happened to turn on the radio and catch Catholic Answers Live on Sacred Heart Radio in Seattle. "Thats weird," I thought. "Whos ever heard of Catholic radio? And what do Catholics need with a radio station anyway?" I wasnt necessarily anti-Catholic, but I held the usual Reformation-inspired opinions of the Catholic Church and how blessed we were to be free from Romanism. As I listened to the show I was shocked to hear not only a clear presentation of Catholic teaching but also that Catholics still believed in transubstantiation, papal infallibility, and so on.
As the years went on in Seattle, I would occasionally tune back in to Catholic Answers Live and many other shows on Sacred Heart Radio, mainly for the purpose of understanding what Catholics teach so that I could have a reasoned defense to the contrary. The problem was that, time after time, the Catholic explanation of theology was every bit a biblical as my beliefs, albeit in a different way.
Now, because our denomination started in the 1920s, I was oblivious to Church history. For us the Reformation wasnt the good old days; Acts 2 and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues are the good old days. There was virtually nothing done to fill in the gaps between the present and the first-century Church.
But the Catholics I listened to kept claiming that the earliest Christians were Catholic and that their writings from the first few centuries verify that claim. They would regularly present a point of theology that was rooted in Scripture and then support it with quotes from the "early Church Fathers." The speakers were clear that these writings are not inspired, nor are they on the same level as Scripture, but they do provide us with the historical context to know what the early Christians believed. More importantly, these early Christian writers claimed that these beliefs were handed down by the apostles, and some of them were even taught by the apostles.
At that time, Catholic Answers regularly threw out a challenge not to take their word for any of the positions of the Catholic Church but see for oneself if they are true. I decided to take them up on this challenge, figuring it would be easy. First of all, the Catholic Church sets an impossible standard for itself: infallibility in its dogmatic teachings on matters of faith and morals. All I had to do was prove one doctrine false and the entire system would cease to be without error. Secondly, I was sure that when I found the writings of these "early Church Fathers" and read them in context, they would set the story straight.
But there was a catch. Along with this challenge, there was a caution: Be carefulyou just might become Catholic. Yeah, right! Impossible.
My Ship Came In
I started with a slow and measured search into Catholic teaching and Church history. This all changed after a most unexpected event. I was invited to speak at a Foursquare high school camp in the summer of 2003. The man who owned the camp was a gracious servant of Jesus and was gifted with what our denomination calls "prophetic insight," meaning that God gave him insight into things of which he had no natural knowledge. I had never met him before, and as we got to know each other that week, he said he might have some insight from the Lord for me. These encounters usually yielded a general word of encouragement that could probably apply to anybody. Nonetheless, I met with him in his office to pray and see if God had any direction for me.
He began to pray and said he could see a picture in his mind. He saw me and my family standing on the ocean shore and in the water was a huge ship. He said on the side of the ship were the words "Queen Mary." (At this point in my study, I didnt know that this is a title for Mary; my interest was concentrated on the huge ship.) He looked straight at me and said, "Im not sure, but maybe youre supposed to have something to do with the Catholic Church."
I almost fell out of my chair. I told him about my unexpected encounter with Catholicismthe radio shows, the early Church Fathers, the challenge. I left the camp thinking that God might use me in some type of bridge ministry between Protestants and Catholics. Of course, I assumed it would be for bringing Catholics out of Catholicism and into the true unity and "fullness" of Protestantism. With my renewed focus, I returned home and aggressively pursued understanding Catholic theology, Church history, and how I could serve God in this capacity. "If Im going to reach Catholics," I thought, "Ill need to know what they believe and how they support those beliefs."
Hitting the Wall
As I examined each point of theology, I found that the Catholic Churchs teachings were the most biblical, the most historical, and the most reasonable. I was also surprised to find that Catholics also believed in miracles and the Pentecostal gifts I had grown up with (but with a more sound foundation). I thought, "Oh man! If this is true, I have to become Catholic."
The day finally came where I hit the wall and realized that the teachings of the Catholic Church are true. I realized that Jesus truly did establish a Church and didnt leave the gospel to survive in an "every man for himself" model. In the end, I found that I, like all Bible-based groups, could support my theology from Scripture, but I always had to ignore certain passages to make it fit, and I couldnt provide any support for its existence in the history of the Church. I found that Catholic theology makes sense of the whole of Scripture and that only Catholic theology is attested to from writings before the death of the apostle John to the present day.
I wasnt excited about this discovery, for it would cost me most of what I had invested over thirteen years of pastoral ministry. But my desire was to follow Christ, so I resigned my pastorate in August 2004. Once again my wife and I and three girls were without an income, with three months worth of money to live on and full of faith that God would provide. And he has.
Now that all of us have come home to the Church, we are constantly amazed at the grace that God provides for living a powerful, Spirit-filled life. When understood properly, Scripture, liturgy, prayer, and the sacraments are far more capable of shaping our Christian walk than any of the relaxed church structures in which I had grown up. I have found that the structure and liturgies that used to turn my stomach have become a greater source of joy than I could have ever imagined.
What does Lent have to do with reading the Bible? You dont need a special occasion to read and understand the Bible? This is what Ive been talking about. lol
Ephesians can be read in less than 30 minutes.
As Cronos says, some of us benighted Catholics read the Bible daily and study it almost daily. We do not presume to think that 30 minutes is enough to hear all that God is saying in a particular text. Do you?
Do you know what we mean by lectio divina? You might want to look into it.
In what I thought was a gentle response to your gratuitous advice to read what I have read many times (though certainly not 'enough'), I pledged (and I still pledge) to live with Galatians for 40 days, not for 30 minutes. (I was thinking of doing Proverbs, since I think I'm weak in the "wisdom" books and other of the kethubim. But I don't mind putting that off.) I am not sure what you think this is an example of.
I don't know how your time is committed, but I do have a sense of how my time is committed, and of the demands on it. I probably spend too much here and on FaceBook, but most of my days, including prayer, scripture reading, scripture and other studying, are quite full. And not being paid (in cash -- but I am rewarded greatly) for this, I have things like getting in enough wood to heat us during the threatened bad weather to worry about and getting the roof repaired. (I don't do roof clambering any more. Never did much.) I don't think I do enough, but I'm working on it, with the grace and help of God.
For many Catholics, Lent (and Advent) are times for a kind of a "sprint," a pace of prayer and study that we simply could not maintain throughout the year. During that time we support one another in prayer, and we understand that we are all trying to cut back on distractions and other commitments and to pay more than usual attention to explicitly "spiritual" matters.
It's a shame when hostility prevents courtesy and blocks understanding. I took your suggestion extremely seriously. I guess this is an instance of those who cannot take 'yes' for an answer.
I'm just relying on my general knowledge of Victorian Britain (read a lot of Anthony Trollope) to make an edumakated guess that the fellow in the white trousers is a supervisor: he's got a full beard while working class men tended to be clean shaven; he's wearing a frock coat and a bowler hat, both marks of the middle class (note that the guys doing the actual shovelling are wearing cloth caps or wool hats; the upper class wore top hats); and he's wearing white trousers (which were fashionable at the time and are hard to keep clean). He's probably the contractor or engineer in charge of the demolition.
I'm not as educated on the niceties of dress as a Victorian would be, but they say that you could tell the exact social position of a man or woman by their dress, hair, hat, accent, etc. They were more concerned about social class than modern Brits, and a LOT more concerned about it than any American now or then.
St. Giles is just outside the old Wall of the City -- it appears from maps of the fire that the old wall acted as a firebreak to some extent, since the fire follows the outline of the Wall. Or that may just be where the city fathers decided to demolish some houses to stop the progress of the fire.
One of the surprises after the Blitz (it's an ill wind that blows no good) was all the Roman and even prehistoric remains that turned up during the rebuilding. A huge piece of the old Wall is preserved right behind St. Giles -
You should recognize the really ugly building in the background as it's also in the background of the photo of St. Giles - part of the modern Barbican development.
P.S. . . . when I was referring to "the XXXIX" I meant the Thirty-Nine Articles of Religion. They've been relegated to the status of "Historical Documents" in the back of the Book of Common Prayer, but back in the old days if you got ordained or even if you became a student at one of the universities you had to affirm the XXXIX. They are a bit on the 'low church' end of things, and most Anglo-Catholics simply ignored them, especially Articles XXII, XXV, and XXVIII.
Wonderful uplifting story of a journey letting nothing stand in the way of Christ. God Bless them.
< / sudden attack of scrupulosity >
As my husband the ex-Methodist occasionally remarks, "You were born to be Catholic 'cause you really like the rules!"
And that's my besetting sin!
I’m laughing here . . . . I don’t speak a word of Welsh, but I can actually read that because in Scots Gaelic it would be Bliadhna Math Ur . . .
The form of Merry Christmas in Welsh is Nadolig Llawen. The Irish Gaelic form is "Nollaig shona duit". Scots Gaelic is "Nollaig chridheil".
The Breton form is "Nedeleg laouen ha bloavezh mat" for Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Very close to the Welsh form (Nadolig Llawen a blwydden newydd da). The Cornish form is "Nadelik Lowen ha Blydhen Nowydh Da".
The other Goidelic language, Manx, expresses the phrase as (Nollick Ghennal as Blein Vie Noa).
THe best response when I catch myself in scrupulous mode is to laugh at the devil and myself. “You can’t catch me that way! I’m HIS!”
I must be missing something.
I thought that selling cars was a good job, because one is providing others with something tangible and needed.
Especially when one has previously been deliberately (although ignorantly) been leading others astray.
Becoming Catholic and selling cars sounds like a great improvement!
God called and God provided!
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Al — my apologies, I forgot that you were in Egypt. How are you? I hope you haven’t been affected by this. How are you and the family?
Open your mind before you open your mouth....you WILL be smarter AND WISER!!!!
OK...tell us which ones run counter to the Catholic Church.
GEESH....we don’t HAVE to carry a Bible to Church...our READINGS are ALL from the BIBLE!!!! What is a St. Pious (PIUS) X SECT??? do tell!!!
Do you have ANY idea what “Infallibility” means??? The Pope is NOT infallible....only DOGMA is INFALLIBLE!!!
Our ENTIRE Mass and education is BIBLE BASED!!!!
What religious sect are you....and don’t tell me CHRISTIAN! If you do, that means you don’t even go to a Church!
GEESH!!! It’s what the Pope puts forward as DOGMA!!!! Not something stupid and mundane that he says. HUGE difference for anyone who really wants to know the difference!
GID BLESSED YOU!!!
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