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Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ, Ensign, Jan 2009, 1622
Adapted from a presentation to the Seventy.
In the Doctrine and Covenants we read that Joseph Smith was called of God, and ordained an apostle of Jesus Christ (D&C 20:2). The call of an Apostle is first to witness or testify of Jesus Christ. Old Testament prophets testified of His coming. The New Testament Apostles bore personal witness of Christs being and of the absolute reality of His Resurrection. This apostolic witness was the basis of their teaching. Ye shall be witnesses unto me (Acts 1:8) was Jesuss instruction to the original Twelve. Peter testified on the day of Pentecost to the Jews who had gathered out of every nation (Acts 2:5) that this Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses (Acts 2:32). Similarly, Paul wrote to the Corinthians that Jesus was seen of me also (1 Corinthians 15:8). The sure witness of Christs being and the reality of His Resurrection is the first pillar of apostolic testimony.
The second pillar is centered on the Saviors redemptive and saving power. Peter teaches that to the Lord give all the Prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins (Acts 10:43).
Without these twin pillars of testimony concerning Christ, there could be no Apostle. Such testimonies are born of experience, divine command, and instruction. For example, Luke writes that Christ showed Himself to the Apostles alive after his passion being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God (Acts 1:3).
How does the Prophet Joseph Smith fit into these apostolic requirements? The answer is Perfectly.
Joseph Smiths apostolic instruction began in 1820. Pondering the questions of religion, he soon found that there was no way to reason or argue ones opinion to an authoritative conclusion concerning the correctness of the various churches or their doctrines. Short of a divine manifestation, young Joseph could add only one more opinion to the already existing war of words and tumult of opinions (Joseph SmithHistory 1:10). But Josephs questions on religion were answered by the personal and physical manifestation of God the Father and His divine and living Son, Jesus Christan experience referred to as the First Vision.
Like that of the original Apostles, Josephs experience with Deity was direct and personal. There was no need for the opinion of others or the deliberations of a council to define what he saw or what it came to mean to him. Josephs vision was at first an intensely personal experiencean answer to a specific question. Over time, however, illuminated by additional experience and instruction, it became the founding revelation of the Restoration.
As apostolic as this manifestation of Christs being, existence, and Resurrection was to Joseph Smith, it was not the only thing Jesus wanted to teach him. The boy Josephs first lesson arose from the manifestation of Christs absolute, omnipotent, and divine power. Joseph learned firsthand at least one meaning of the redeeming and saving power of Christ when he prayed in the grove. As he began to pray, Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction (Joseph SmithHistory 1:15). With every bit of energy Joseph had, he began to call upon God to deliver him from the grasp of this enemy.
At the very moment when I was ready to sink into despair and abandon myself to destruction , I saw a pillar of light.
It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound (Joseph SmithHistory 1:1617).
Joseph Smiths confrontation with the adversary is reminiscent of an experience Moses had, about which the Prophet would learn some few years later. Unlike the boy Joseph, however, Moses saw Gods greatness first and then was confronted with the power of the adversary before being delivered from his influence. (See Moses 1.)
The difference in the order of events is significant. Moses was already far into maturity and had much knowledge and influence prior to this event. By displaying His magnificent power to Moses before he faced the adversary, the Lord helped Moses put his life into perspective. After experiencing Gods glory, Moses said, Now, for this cause I know that man is nothing, which thing I never had supposed (Moses 1:10). This incident enabled Moses to withstand the temptations of the adversary that followed.
Joseph Smith, on the other hand, was an inexperienced young man, who in his lifetime would repeatedly face adversarial power and the overwhelming problems it brings. By facing the adversary first, then being saved from his assault by the appearance of the Father and the Son, Joseph learned this indelible lesson: as great as the power of evil might be, it must always withdraw with the appearance of righteousness.
This lesson was critical in Josephs apostolic education. He needed this knowledge not only because of the personal trials that lay ahead of him but also because of the overwhelming opposition he would face in founding and directing the Church.
The boy Joseph went into the grove seeking wisdom, and wisdom he received. His apostolic instruction had begun. Among the great apostolic lessons of this First Vision were both the physical nature of the Savior and Heavenly Father and the initial and fundamental lessons relating to Their powereach a pillar of apostolic testimony.
Joseph Smiths early apostolic instruction continued with his translation of the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon gave Joseph access to the fulness of the everlasting Gospel (Joseph SmithHistory 1:34), principles that were necessary to understand even prior to the organization of the Church. The Prophet was introduced to numerous plain and most precious (1 Nephi 13:26) prophetic and apostolic testimonies regarding the Savior, all of which served as models for him.
Indeed, the Book of Mormon prophets employ over 100 titles in their teachings of Christ, each of which helped Joseph understand the Saviors divine role.1 By virtue of these teachings, Joseph Smith became intimately acquainted with ancient prophets, giving him insight into the divine purpose of his responsibilities.
The Book of Mormon illuminates the universality of Christs Atonement. The Saviors holy sacrifice is not confined to the borders of the Holy Land of His day or even restricted to the apostolic world of the original Twelve. The Atonement encompasses all of Gods creationspast, present, and future. What an impression Jacobs teaching of the infinite atonement (2 Nephi 9:7) must have made on the mind of young Joseph, especially in contrast to Christian teachings at the time.
The Book of Mormon also introduces the universality of the Resurrection and other doctrines relating to it. Discourses on this doctrine by Lehi, Jacob, King Benjamin, Abinadi, Alma, Amulek, Samuel the Lamanite, and Moroni are all rich sources of instruction.
During the translation of the Book of Mormon, the Prophet received additional valuable personal instruction concerning the redemptive and saving power of Christ. In 1828 Martin Harris persuaded Joseph to lend him the first 116 pages of the Book of Mormon manuscript. When Martin Harris lost those pages, the Prophet felt an enormous despair.2 His mother, Lucy Mack Smith, recorded that Joseph exclaimed: Oh, my God! All is lost! all is lost! What shall I do? I have sinnedit is I who tempted the wrath of God. How shall I appear before the Lord? Of what rebuke am I not worthy from the angel of the Most High?3
For well over a month the Lord left Joseph in this terrible condition of remorse.4 Then came relief and the apostolic lesson. The Lord told Joseph:
The works, and the designs, and the purposes of God cannot be frustrated, neither can they come to naught.
For although a man may have many revelations, and have power to do many mighty works, yet if he boasts in his own strength, and sets at naught the counsels of God, and follows after the dictates of his own will and carnal desires, he must fall and incur the vengeance of a just God upon him (D&C 3:1, 4).
These words carefully describe what Joseph Smith had been experiencing. He had learned the exacting nature of the apostolic call and to whom the Apostle, at all cost, owes his loyalty. Although men set at naught the counsels of God, and despise his words, Joseph was told, yet you should have been faithful (D&C 3:78). Joseph Smith had lost access to the plates for a season and had been taught an invaluable lesson. Subsequently, the plates were returned, and his position as translator restored.
How critical were the lessons provided by the translation of the Book of Mormon as Joseph Smith grew in his apostolic calling! The Book of Mormon is the keystone of our religion5 because it contains so many prophetic testimonies of Christ and stands as a tangible witness of the Restoration.
After finishing the translation of the Book of Mormon in 1829 and organizing the Church in 1830, Joseph Smith had the opportunity to receive continuing apostolic education through the process of translating other scripture. This included three years of translating the Bible and, beginning in 1835, translating the book of Abraham. Joseph Smiths translation of the Bible expanded his understanding of the role of Old Testament prophets and New Testament Apostles. It also resulted in additional revelation, namely the book of Moses.
The book of Moses provided the Prophet with important knowledge about the Saviors ministry, including His role in the Creation. The Lord spake unto Moses, saying: I am the Beginning and the End, the Almighty God; by mine Only Begotten I created these things (Moses 2:1). Further, He said, And worlds without number have I created; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten (Moses 1:33).
The book of Moses clarified Christs relationship to the Father in the premortal existence and reinforced the Prophets understanding of the ascendant power of righteousness. One of the most beautiful of all the apostolic lessons that came to Joseph Smith in this revelation was the confirmation of Gods love. It was so different from the harsh, unforgiving, and judgmental personage so many believed God to be; the book of Moses reveals a God of infinite compassion. Enoch saw that the God of heaven wept (Moses 7:28) over those who would not receive Him. Wishing to know how it was possible, Enoch was given an answer that has a familiar biblical feel to it: I [have] given commandment, that they should love one another, and that they should choose me, their Father. Wherefore should not the heavens weep, seeing these shall suffer? (Moses 7:33, 37; see also Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18; Matthew 22:3739).
Through the translation of the book of Moses, the Prophet also became more acquainted with the redeeming and saving power of the Savior. As the Lord said, this earth was created by the word of my power (Moses 1:32) for the purpose of bringing to pass the immortality and eternal life of man (Moses 1:39). Many long years before the Savior taught Thomas and the Twelve that I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me (John 14:6), He revealed to Moses that this is the plan of salvation unto all men, through the blood of mine Only Begotten, who shall come in the meridian of time (Moses 6:62).
The First Vision in the grove, the translation of the Book of Mormon, the revision of the Bible, the revelation of the book of Moses, and the translation of the book of Abraham laid the basic foundation of the Church, largely through the rapidly expanding knowledge and testimony of the Prophet Joseph Smith relating to Jesus Christ.
Revelations given to him and compiled in the Doctrine and Covenants contain a wealth of knowledge concerning the Savior. One could research the numerous topics and cross-references of the Topical Guide and Guide to the Scriptures referring to Jesus Christ and still not understand the breadth of information on the Savior that the Prophet Joseph Smith brought to the world. I am grateful to know that Jesus was in the beginning with the Father (D&C 93:21). I am grateful to know that He suffered these things for [me], that [I] might not suffer if [I] would repent (D&C 19:16).
I am grateful for yet one other thing about the Saviors ministry that stirs my soul deeply. From studying the promises of Malachi, Moronis initial visit with Joseph, the Saviors words to the Nephites, and the visit of Elijah in the Kirtland Temple, I learn that God loves His children and has provided a way for each to return to Him. I know of no doctrine more just, no teaching that gives more hope than that of redemption of the dead. I am so grateful for the revelations that teach me that the Saviors Atonement reaches to those who have lived, loved, served, and hoped for a better day yet never heard of Jesus or had the opportunity to embrace His gospel. This knowledge alone would be sufficient to convert me to the gospel if I knew nothing else at all. Here, at least for me, is the ultimate testimony of Jesus Christ and His atoning sacrifice.
What, then, can be said of the incomparable saving power of Christ? That which Joseph Smith learned in the Sacred Grove about the power of righteousness overcoming evil foreshadows the final scene. So reveals the Lord:
I, having accomplished and finished the will of him whose I am, even the Father, concerning mehaving done this that I might subdue all things unto myself
Retaining all power, even to the destroying of Satan and his works at the end of the world, and the last great day of judgment (D&C 19:23).
Our own testimonies of the Savior are framed by the testimony and teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith. Is it any wonder then that the Prophet taught that the fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven; and all other things which pertain to our religion are only appendages to it.6
Joseph Smiths apostolic testimony of the divine reality and the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, as well as his knowledge of the redemptive and saving power of the Savior, can best be seen by the Prophets own beautiful, powerful, and succinct witness:
And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!
For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father
That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God (D&C 76:2224).
How grateful I am for the apostolic call of Joseph Smith.
4. The 116 pages were lost in June 1828. In July Joseph Smith received what is now section 3 of the Doctrine and Covenants. In September the plates were returned to the Prophet. See the historical introductions to D&C 3; 10.
a burning fire shut up in [their] bones.”
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Yes well they say there is an itching burning feeling in your hands (the bones apparantly) when lots of money is in your future...
The Smith family always had been after the quick buck...
The questions I ask are not answered, but defelected according to the LDS Missionary "answer the question they should have asked" training on how to lie.
Harry Reid democrats would be proud, but my simple question has not been answered.
That is a violation of the Caucus rules, and I've seen threads which had their caucus designation removed because of violating that rule.
This is the first caucus thread I can remember which had it's designation removed, and was moved from religion to breaking news, because a moderator or the site owner disagreed with the theological point being made in the caucus.
Now that it's done, it is known to be a possibility. Any person posting a Caucus thread will now have to consider this new rule -- threads can be moved and caucus protection removed if the authorities disagree with the theology of the thread. Doubt it will happen, but it is something new.
Almost immediately his followers performed miracles, beginning with a dramatic levitation and exorcism which inaugurated the restoration of primitive Christianity. ...
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levitation...
floating in mid air...
from primitive something...
but not Christianity...
Yes, I would agree to this. ...as well that she is being targeted into the Mormon clutches.........Tara is not alone in seeking the "right way"...which is as you said thru a 'relationship' with Christ not a church or a denomination...and "faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God."
She knows just enough of Christianity to be a target by just about any false religion or cult. She would do very well to stay close to the scriptures and seek the truth between the Lord and Herself. He never fails a true seeker and will meet them along the way....Additionally pay attention to those who have come out of the Mormon church and know exactly what it's about and the false teachings they deceive with.There are several on this thread who are more than acquainted with it's teachings, but moreso know well the scripture truth as it really is intended.
It was said to me once..."When the student of Gods word is ready, God will provide the teacher..." I have found this to be true...and He will confirm as much those who He chooses.... And I can guarantee it won't be by any "burning in the bosum".
Also the Lord wants to stretch our ability to discern rightly between truth and falsehood....An interesting tidbit is those who work distinguishing counterfeit money from the real thing are NOT taught what a counterfeit looks like....they are taught every detail and hours of training in distinguishing the real thing. Because they know the real thing so very well they can spot a counterfeit in a heartbeat!
Religiosity and Churchianity are plentiful....and many are drawn to 'feeling religious' by going to church....but the "real deal" is found in Christ and the relationship He desires with us on a personal level...then we are ready to reveal His life thru us and reflect Him within the church body we attend.
We aren’t saying you can’t be friends with them. I have Mormon, Wiccan and atheist friends, but that doesn’t mean I consider them to be Christian and it also doesn’t mean that I will not tell them the truth about Christ, who He is, and what He did to save us.
Keeping quiet isn’t a witness. I used to think people would know I was a Christian because of my behavior and I didn’t have to tell them. I was shocked to find out that most of my friends thought I was a nice athiest and never occured to them i was a Christian. So I started to be more vocal and forceful (not necessarily a peacemaker) with my unbelieving friends (I am a peacemaker within the Body of Christ) and rather than shun me, several of them got saved.
What can you do? You can research their beliefs, learn to counter them, and TELL THEM THE TRUTH!!
Stand for Christ or stand aside.
Lurkers will note - the "worn out regurgitated propaganda", is from an official lds publication "History of the Church". Additional "worn out regurgitated propaganda", was also published by the mormon church in the Nauvoo Neighbor in 1843. More propagands was published by the lds in the 1904 issue of Improvement Era. Again, more propaganda in the official Church publication, The Comprehensive History of The Church, by B.H. Roberts. Finally, to shorten the list - in 1979 apostle Mark E. Peterson wrote a book called Those Gold Plates!. In the first chapter Peterson describes various ancient cultures that have written records on metal plates. Then Peterson claims, There are the Kinderhook plates, too, found in America and now in the possession of the Chicago Historical Society. Controversy has surrounded these plates and their engravings, but most experts agree they are of ancient vintage. (page 3, Those Gold Plates, Mark E. Peterson)
Lurkers will note - these are all from LDS sources.
Lurkers will also note - metallurgical tests proved the plates to have been manufactured in the 1800's. Again from a 'propaganda' source -
"As a result of these tests, we concluded that the plate... is not of ancient origin....the plate was etched with acid; and as Paul Cheesman and other scholars have pointed out, ancient inhabitants would probably have engraved the plates rather than etched them with acid. Secondly, we concluded that the plate was made from a true brass alloy (copper and zinc) typical of the mid-nineteenth century: whereas the 'brass' of ancient times was actually bronze, an alloy of copper and tin." -- The Ensign, August 1981, pp. 66-70.
Mormonism believed for 130 years that the plates were authentic and that smith had truely identified them. Now, facts show they were fake and the translation smith started was also fake
Only a fake prophet translates fake plates.
Shown the truth the just obfuscate to the same old tired and worn out obfuscation.
We have several LDS here who constantly go on about “my faith” (you’re insulting MY FAITH!”). But it sounds like they mean “the LDS faith”. Not necessarily their own personal faith, although their faith in their religion is strong.
If this were so in all these years there would be proof not assumptions and hearsay.
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Yes youre right Resty
However the mormons have produced no proof
Just more assumptions and heresay...
True, I forgot that LDS godhood is the advanced version of the Hemans women haters club
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‘on Steroids’. LOL.
Remember that infamous post by Sandy where she claimed “Mormons are Christians on Steroids”?
I still laugh when I think of that.
Thanks I will take a look, the more posts I read describing Mormon doctrine the more it is sounding like *Scientology*
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Glad to hear it. The more you read the scarier Mormonism gets. I wish there had been forums like this and sites like I linked to you when I was looking into Mormonism in the 1980s. I would have never have joined.
I saw that thread! Hilarious! Mormonism teaches the craziest things!
I will embarass you every single time with what Joseph Smith changed it to in his inspired "retranslation"....And just who do you think you are as an LDS believer to second guess him ? You are cursed to live and abide by the JST, at least here on FR, EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU TRY TO DISTORT THE BIBLE TO JSUTIFY YOUR CULT....and you should know, some of his changes were UTTERLY SHOCKING !
(KJV)John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
(JST)John 14:30
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you; for the prince of darkness, who is of this world, cometh, but hath no power over me, but he hath power over you.
***a burning fire shut up in [their] bones.**
Men in the military or who visit bars over in Oklahoma find a dose of penicillin works wonders on this! ;-D
Like the Book Of Mormon?
7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;So, God told David that he gave him all his wives, and would have given him more if that was too little. I believe this covers your "Go get another wife".
8 And I gave thee thy masters house, and thy masters wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.
Wanted to make sure you were recognized for your efforts herding all us cats (O.o)
Again, the deceit-filled Mormonism apologists want to have it both ways: they claim the Bible 'where it is translated correctly', yet their own supposed prophet and seer retranslated this same King James Bible and kept these passages in which the apologists try to point to as proving the Bible to 'not be entirely accurate'. Only the father of lies uses such a duplicitous strategy.
And you want to wet on my leg and tell me in all through the years this FR contention will convert?
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It has. A least 3 and kept one from joining. Not bad.
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