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Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ
LDS.org ^ | Dennis B. Neuenschwander

Posted on 01/02/2011 5:46:30 PM PST by Paragon Defender

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To: ejonesie22

I was bored and it bugs me that he accused me of lying and being dishonest (also against forum rules).

Now I’m off to get some real work done.


1,941 posted on 01/05/2011 11:37:17 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

This is why I don’t hold one religion as being superior or more truthful over other religions. I think there are falsehoods in all of them, but it is not my place to tell anyone what to believe or not to believe.And about that cherry picking thing, most religions don’t reveal bible scripture that puts the ancestory of their faith in a bad light.You hear preachers all the time telling the story of Isaac and mother Sarah but very little about Ishmael and his mom. Or about Moses marrying his dads sister or Abraham pimping out his half sister wife to the Pharoah in return for cattle and land.


1,942 posted on 01/05/2011 11:39:55 AM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: Godzilla; Religion Moderator
You II, this isn’t the first thread you’ve jumped in only to make personal insults to posters and try to hijack the thread into making it personal against other freepers. IIRC the RM has warned you not to do this in the past and has put you out of threads for the same. II, this is becoming trollish on your part and I request that the RM make it clear to you the same.

Sorry you think these are my motives. Nice effort to silence me though. But take heart. Some things seem to have changed around here in the past couple of days so perhaps you'll get me censored sooner rather than later. Speakin' from the heart dude as I'm sure you think you are. Might be hard for ya to believe. If that's the case I probably can't help ya.

1,943 posted on 01/05/2011 11:40:18 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: reaganaut

Being accused of lying, when you are not, by an idiot is a badge of honor...


1,944 posted on 01/05/2011 11:40:48 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Considering the number of times a Mormon has done it to me, I can only assume that it doesn't count if the LDSer replaces the majority of letters with other characters (asterisks, etc).

Thanks for sharing that! Now it becomes clear.

1,945 posted on 01/05/2011 11:50:43 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (("A Leftist assumption: Making money doesn't entitle you to it, but wanting money does.")
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To: Jim Robinson

“Then again maybe it would be best not to have a Religion Forum and just unite on the Godly principles that unites us as a people to keep the constitution strong.”

Then again maybe it would be best for those who can’t handle an open forum just to move along to some protected place.

IMHO

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Open threads are fine if they Identify in the title “Anti LDS”

BTW
Thanks be to the currents times and the state of things which are now given over to the whims of men I will always know my sole protection is in my Lord Jesus Christ!


1,946 posted on 01/05/2011 11:50:53 AM PST by restornu
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To: eastforker
"This is why I don’t hold one religion as being superior or more truthful over other religions.'

And neither do I.

"I think there are falsehoods in all of them,..."

So what's the problem here if exposing a religion's faults and fallacies are supposedly a good thing?

"...but it is not my place to tell anyone what to believe or not to believe."

I'm not telling anyone "what" to believe, I'm pointing out "what" is in error or is not truthful in a particular religion.

1,947 posted on 01/05/2011 11:51:34 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: reaganaut

Hi Reaganaut,

You seem to think that Jesus Christ and Mormonism are mutually exclusive. Far from it — my faith in Christ is firm, in fact the true anchor of my life.

Normandy.


1,948 posted on 01/05/2011 11:52:53 AM PST by Normandy
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To: T Minus Four; reaganaut; P-Marlowe; colorcountry; SZonian; SENTINEL
I never have (and of course never will) get an answer to my simple question: what "vital truth" is the bible missing that I need in order to spend eternity with Jesus?

I know!! I know!! Pick me teacher!

Pay Lay Ale! [Wave white hanky]

1,949 posted on 01/05/2011 11:54:40 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (("A Leftist assumption: Making money doesn't entitle you to it, but wanting money does.")
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To: Normandy
Who do you say Christ is?


1,950 posted on 01/05/2011 11:56:12 AM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: SZonian

I’m not telling anyone “what” to believe, I’m pointing out “what” is in error or is not truthful in a particular religion.

That is one of the most contradictory statement I have ever read. By telling them that their belief is wrong or untruthful you are in fact telling them not to bel;ieve it.


1,951 posted on 01/05/2011 11:56:15 AM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: restornu; Jim Robinson

Open threads are fine if they Identify in the title “Anti LDS” [Resty]
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Why is that needed? The articles posted by non-mormons (so called ‘antis’ are from LDS sites, sources and authored by Mormons.

Are you claiming your own church’s writings are ‘anti’ themselves?


1,952 posted on 01/05/2011 12:00:31 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Religion Moderator

The RM addressed your behavior here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2650662/posts?page=1925#1925

The Rm has laid out the rules, if anyone gets you ‘thrown out’ it will be your own commentary. Now, unless you have something with theological content to post, go off and have a nice day, as you bore me.


1,953 posted on 01/05/2011 12:00:52 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: greyfoxx39; Alex Murphy

I’ve often wondered, if a Mormon swears at you using food instead of excrement, is it still a swear? ;)


1,954 posted on 01/05/2011 12:01:09 PM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: ejonesie22

true. Thank you for the reminder.


1,955 posted on 01/05/2011 12:01:20 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: eastforker; Religion Moderator; SZonian

Do you have a theological point to make on this thread, or are you just here to contradict those who do? What IS the point of your comments? Please furnish source links.


1,956 posted on 01/05/2011 12:02:17 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (("A Leftist assumption: Making money doesn't entitle you to it, but wanting money does.")
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To: Normandy

You seem to think that Jesus Christ and Mormonism are mutually exclusive.

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I don’t think it, I know it.

The Jesus of the BIBLE and Mormonism are mutually exclusive. The Christ of Mormonism is NOT the Christ of the Bible. I can give you a point by point on that Norm if you would like.

And please answer my question. Which do you want more the truth or Mormonism? Christ and Mormonism? Salvation or your religion?

If Jesus was leading you out of Mormonism, would you go? Or would you rather stay LDS regardless?

Who is more important to belong to? Christ or Mormon Church?

Would you follow Christ, would you seek the TRUTH, at ANY cost, even your Mormon religion?

Because I did. I didn’t want to leave Mormonism, I loved it and thought I was blessed by it, but I wanted the truth, I wanted Christ no matter the cost. And the cost was my Mormonism.


1,957 posted on 01/05/2011 12:03:49 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: colorcountry

He is the Son of the living God, the Savior and Redeemer of mankind.


1,958 posted on 01/05/2011 12:04:27 PM PST by Normandy
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To: Godzilla
The Rm has laid out the rules, if anyone gets you ‘thrown out’ it will be your own commentary. Now, unless you have something with theological content to post, go off and have a nice day, as you bore me.

Gee thats funny. I find nothing of theological value in this posting. So if, as self-proclaimed assistant thread monitor, you have no theological content for me, run away. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

1,959 posted on 01/05/2011 12:04:54 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: eastforker

Uhm, no it’s not.

If I present conflicting information to something they purport to believe, I’m not “telling” anyone “what” to believe. I’m pointing out the contradiction. It’s entirely up to them whether or not they choose to pursue investigating it and altering their beliefs or not.

Just as I did when leaving mormonISM.

They can ignore it and go along their merry way [as many on FR do], rebut it [as some on FR do] or investigate it [as some on FR do] or just plain start a flame war by calling detractors of mormonISM “haters”, “pigs”, “liars”, “deceivers”, etc. [as some do].

There are many options available.


1,960 posted on 01/05/2011 12:05:32 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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