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St. Juan Diego's tilma: "completely outside" science
DeaconsBench ^ | Monday August 24, 2009 | Beliefnet/Deacon's Bench

Posted on 12/09/2010 2:54:51 PM PST by Salvation

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To: lastchance; Quix

You guys ridicule Quix for his alien posts but at least he is simply speculating. You actually believe this lunacy.

Mary is in heaven, just as Jesus Christ is in heaven. Mary is not appearing before peasant children in Guam and Jesus Christ is not being served up on alters across the globe.

Read the Bible. Believe the Bible.


41 posted on 12/09/2010 8:49:45 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: lastchance

For many outside the Church, knowledge of the Communion of Saints has been lost.

WIthout this knowledge, Our Lady of Guadalupe is incomprehensible to them.

It still draws them, but without the foundation of the Communion of Saints, they are stymied. Any argument therefore, lacks the common ground necessary to be fruitful.


42 posted on 12/09/2010 8:59:57 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Mary is in heaven, just as Jesus Christ is in heaven.
Color me impressed! The faux "Doctor" gets something RIGHT!
Mary is not appearing before peasant children in Guam and Jesus Christ is not being served up on alters across the globe.
Then s/he goes back to heretical babble. OK, the world is normal again.
43 posted on 12/09/2010 9:03:36 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: D-fendr

Exactly right.


44 posted on 12/09/2010 9:04:30 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I have never ridiculed Quix about his belief in aliens. One can believe in aliens and still be Christian. I don’t agree with him but don’t think his belief in one calls into question his faith in God.


45 posted on 12/09/2010 9:15:31 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: D-fendr

Thanks for the video.


46 posted on 12/09/2010 9:39:06 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: topcat54

**a propensity for truth**

Have you ever visited Mexico City and seen this image?

Well, if you want the truth, you should take the trip.


47 posted on 12/09/2010 9:40:54 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: narses

I am ROTFLOL because this article is about scientists!!!

Their opinion......not the church’s opinion. I guess some people need to be a little bit more thorough in their reading!

Chuckling!


48 posted on 12/09/2010 9:52:22 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: narses

Do these people still think the earth is flat?


49 posted on 12/09/2010 9:53:00 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: D-fendr
For many outside the Church, knowledge of the Communion of Saints has been lost.

For many "outside the church," communion of the saints means bowing down to "another Christ" and praying to statues when the true meaning of "communion of saints" means the fellowship Christians enjoy with one another as they worship the Triune God alone.

"Common ground" is not believing the superstitions and blasphemies of Rome's doctrines of men, but is found within the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

A Gospel no Roman Catholic has yet to proclaim on this forum.

50 posted on 12/10/2010 1:20:16 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Salvation

All of creation is a miracle of God too!


51 posted on 12/10/2010 3:23:54 AM PST by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL,GOING TO THE FESTA BOWL!!!!:)=^..^=)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; wideawake
You could not possibly be more wrong, Dr. Eckleburg.

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask[a] anything in My name, I will do it. “If you love Me, keep[b] My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

John 14:12-17

This isn't about sitting around doing nothing while waiting for Jesus to show up. This is about establishing His Kingdom here on earth. The Kingdom of Heaven is within. But don't take my word for it. Read the book of Acts sometime.

52 posted on 12/10/2010 4:01:22 AM PST by Hoodat (Don't touch my junk, Bro !)
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To: wideawake

Nice list!


53 posted on 12/10/2010 4:49:32 AM PST by syriacus (ObamaCare: Helping millions through hurting millions)
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To: Salvation
God is in charge of creation and can give material objects miraculous qualities.

Acts 19:11-12

And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul: that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.

54 posted on 12/10/2010 5:06:20 AM PST by syriacus (ObamaCare: Helping millions through hurting millions)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What about Peter and John healing the lame beggar in Acts 3? Paul surviving a poisonous snake bite? Other examples too, all post Resurrection.


55 posted on 12/10/2010 5:11:41 AM PST by WNCer2010
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To: topcat54

Not really, we just have a propensity for truth. People appearing from the “other side” unannounced doesn’t fit the pattern. It would have been nice if Jesus had given us a heads up that he was going to send mom back on these “close encounter” missions every so often starting sometime after the reformation.


Please sit down.

Brace yourself.

Breathe deeply a few times.

. . . . I AGREE WITH YOU.

Relax.


56 posted on 12/10/2010 6:02:57 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wideawake

And Holy Spirit hasn’t faltered a microsecond in His work, either.


57 posted on 12/10/2010 6:03:45 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Salvation

Am working on a reply to your FREEPMAIL.

Some have asserted that you are a Roman Catholic Charismatic.

I’ve asserted that I didn’t think so.

Perhaps you’d like to clear up the Proddy disagreement.


58 posted on 12/10/2010 6:06:02 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thank you.


59 posted on 12/10/2010 6:10:24 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: lastchance

Thx.


60 posted on 12/10/2010 6:10:55 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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