Posted on 12/09/2010 2:54:51 PM PST by Salvation
“Who painted it?”
I seriously doubt her statement was made in ignorance, but really more like the comment of a belligerent and contemptuous adolescent mind.
Barbara Mikulsi ~ who was invited to the funeral of JPII for whatever reason I do not know ~ was asked about the experience to which she replied. “It all just looked so final.”
Believe me, these self-absorbed secular humanists ponder how they may deliver the shiv and it is done willfully and with purpose.
You don’t know or don’t agree with the Communion of Saints of the Church as in the Apostle’s Creed. So be it - for now.
But I have no reason to follow the more recent innovation outside the Church and there’s no value in seeing a wall separating the mystical Body of Christ where it does not exist.
Oh, excuse me . . . only the creation of the universe from nothing isn't "outside science!"
Oh heavens, there's no need for these sightings, I agree. They're gifts, not dogma. The Church leaves it to us to accept or not accept, though She is free to officially recognize it. But then, it begs the question whether there was a need for Peter, John and Andrew to see a couple dead guys at the Transfiguration, since the savior was already in their midst.
Thank you for bumping this Catholic thread — while arguing with a scientist in the main article.......
Thanks for bumping this thread. The article was in your realm of expertise — science.
Absolutely.
Not sure what this means. I'm not arguing against its authenticity.
Really? I must have missed the part in the Gospel where Mary gets the text message that Gabriel will be appearing later that evening; not to mention all the other unannounced visitations of Angels of the Lord throughout the Old Testament.
Do RCs understand the difference between the revealed truth found in Scripture and various extra-biblical musings and "vain jangling" which actually detract from the glory of God?
So if it’s not in the Bible, it didn’t happen? That contradicts the Gospel of John.
Please.......tell me it isn’t so.
You bother reading this forum thread.........because?
1) You're mind-reading again.
2) I and the congregation I fellowship with who are mercifully numbered among God's saints on earth believe and pray the Apostles' Creed during Sunday worship service.
It's not my problem that Rome misunderstands the Apostles' Creed just like it misunderstands so much of Scripture.
Apostle's Creed
Interesting where you put the apostrophe. Do you think the Apostles' Creed was written according to only one apostle's faith?
Because it is important to preach the Christian Gospel in truth.
And anti-Scriptural hallucinations and ignorant swindles are not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That is not Christianity. It’s superstition and “vain jangling.”
Everything we need to know about salvation and our daily walk with Christ is in the Scriptures. Christ told us that Himself.
"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." -- John 6:63
No doubt Christ said many things that are not in the Bible. And if any of them were necessary for our salvation, God would have inspired the writers of the Scriptures to include them.
He didn't.
Mat 17:1-8, “And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,and was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
And when the disciples heard [it], they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.”
Wow. Great citation. Thanks for the excellent example that all men have a craven desire to fall down to what is essentially themselves.
By the indwelling Holy Spirit, men are correctly aligned to kneel to none but Christ.
Many do. But, as I said before: for many outside the Church, knowledge of the Communion of Saints has been lost. And with it, their communion with the Saints in Heaven.
Without Communion of (all) the Saints, we cannot have full knowledge of the Mystical Body of Christ. Also, as I said before, without this understanding, Our Lady of Guadalupe is incomprehensible.
So all you say concerning it follows from this lack - injures full communion will those alive in Christ. It is a sad and needless loss. One that I pray is soon returned to you and your congregation.
Need to know and “good to know” are not mutually exclusive. Because something isn’t necessary, doesn’t make it un-scriptural or “jangling” or whatever term you use.
If salvation is the ultimate goal (which it is), and “Everything we need to know about salvation and our daily walk with Christ is in the Scriptures,” why did you bother going to school or educating your children? I mean, if all you need for salvation is in the Bible - and nothing else is of value - why are you even preaching? Just hand out the Good Book, lock the church doors and everyone go home.
Your position is absurd. It defies the Natural Law, and therefore defies God’s very essence.
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